Larry Allen question

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:12 pm

How does Allen visiting and possibly signing with the kittens or the faiders effect the pukes' cap situation or dead money situation? Not favorably I hope.

I can see the ignorant faiders signing him.

Texas Redskin · Post by **Texas Redskin** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:45 pm

I read in the Dallas Moring News that if they traded him it would be an 8 mil cap hit this year. If they wait until after June 1 it will be around 2 mil.

Texas Redskin · Post by **Texas Redskin** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:45 pm

I don't see anybody trading for him. He will probably be released in June.

Texas Redskin · Post by **Texas Redskin** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:48 pm

To add to this, if they cut him in June it will not only cost them 2 mil this year, it will be a 6 mil hit on their cap next year.

curveball · Post by **curveball** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:40 pm

He'll be cut pre-June 1st or traded before camp or it's not worthwhile to unload him this season.

Dallas has plenty of cap space, most are hypothesising that the lack of major spending in FA was in anticipation of this, so forwarding what's left of his SB won't really hurt the team.

If he's gone pre-June 1 or traded after, which also accelerates his bonus, the Cowboys will have between $5.7-6.2 million left before signing draft picks.

His cap hit this year is in the $5.5 range and cutting him this season would only raise it to around $8.

The only problem with letting him go is a shocking amount of "dead" money on this year's cap when it's coupled with Galloway, Young, and a few minor ones.

On the upside, the cap space for 2005 could be upwards of $20 million.

** I edited his cap #s.

Texas Redskin · Post by **Texas Redskin** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:44 am

Aren't they only 11 mil under the cap? dallasnews.com reported that it would be a 8 mil hit if they drop him this year. 10 is better. That would leave them with just 1 mil under.

curveball · Post by **curveball** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:33 am

Texas Redskin wrote:Aren't they only 11 mil under the cap? dallasnews.com reported that it would be a 8 mil hit if they drop him this year. 10 is better. That would leave them with just 1 mil under.

You're forgetting that he already has a "hit" on the cap this year. The only number you need to look at when discussing cap hits for cutting players is the difference between what he would cost to keep vs. cut.

EX. a team has $10 million in cap space. Player A is making 5 million this season. He would count as $7 million if he's cut. The cap space would only drop $2 million (the difference) so the team would still have $8 million left, not $3 million.

tx_skins_fan · Post by **tx_skins_fan** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:02 am

I read in Sunday's Dallas Morning News that JJ paid Allen his entire remaining signing bonus, and intended to keep him on the team. Interesting.

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:04 am

what are they saying about his health?

he sure looked pathetic at times last year

tx_skins_fan · Post by **tx_skins_fan** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:56 am

Jerry said in the article that he won't be participating in off-season workouts, but he expects him to be ready for camp.

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:47 am

that's ridiculous.....he's gonna be a fat ba$tard coming into camp

tx_skins_fan · Post by **tx_skins_fan** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:53 pm

At least he'll be a fat bastard in Dallas.

curveball · Post by **curveball** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:11 pm

The whole problem with Parcells/Allen is driven by differences of opinion on weight training. Parcells has always used one system to great success while Allen resents being told how to lift.

Allen is big into the bench (allegedly benching 750+) while Parcells doesn't place emphasis on that.

Allen's working out on his own a the Y, while most of the rest of the team are working out at the Cowboys' facility.

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:28 pm

I've heard that about him benching 750...that's insane! but....don't think it's going to do him much good if the wheels are falling off.

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:41 pm

I thought I was doing good pyramiding 255 when I was into lifting...

Sheesh