Who thinks the Panthers game was a prelude to this season?

grampi · Post by **grampi** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:40 am

I do. Maybe this is why people usually aren't hired into head coaching positions when they have no prior coaching experience. I say this team will be lucky to go 4-12.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:52 am

4-12? I say -5-21

oneman56 · Post by **oneman56** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:56 am

I won't go so far as to call it a prelude to the season, however I have been very concerned with our defensive line and I still am. I think the run defense will not be as good as recent years and I am afraid we might see some repeat of saturday's run defense this year. Our interior d-line doesn't create any push and opposing QB's have time to step up into the pocket even if their is outside pressure and on running plays it seems that our team is making first contact with the RB about 2 yards atleast on our side of the line of scrimmage. I think our offense will progress throughout the year and by mid-season should be putting up points efficiently, I hope it's enough points, I don't like what I see from Blache.

JCaptMorgan12 · Post by **JCaptMorgan12** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:08 am

incredible... we start out 3-0, lose one game, and now we're possibly going to finish last, or close to last in the entire NFL... not saying it can't happen, because anything can happen, but I will wait until the season starts and we get a few games under our belt (since they will be tough games) to make a judgement... according to the way teams have played so far, Detroit could win the Super Bowl while also having the best defense in the league, and the Patriots will be lucky to win 4 or 5 games as well...

I didn't get to watch much of the game, but it just seems that people here are starting to throw the season away???

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:28 am

I think 1 bad game for a 1st year coach who played a tough team, in pre-season, no less,i s not reason to deem the who season a loss. I don't think the sky is falling quite yet. Have a little faith or at least give your team the benefit of the doubt.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:59 am

I say: EVERYBODY PANIC

Skinna Mob · Post by **Skinna Mob** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:01 am

I was very upset to say the least watching that game. I or we could all come up with "subjective thoughts" (as Jim Zorn put it) as to why they cuaght a butt whooping on Saturday night.
But I will just say this, its better for them to take it on the chin now, rather than going 5-0 in pre-season thinking there on point starting the regular season.

oneman56 · Post by **oneman56** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:07 am

how about nobody panic or make any observations about pre-season?

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:09 am

The sky is definitely falling.

oneman56 · Post by **oneman56** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:14 am

how come the staff on this board are the ones who criticize what is posted? Or atleast have sarcastic reactions to topics if you don't like them?

GSPODS · Post by **GSPODS** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:19 am

oneman56 wrote:how come the staff on this board are the ones who criticize what is posted? Or atleast have sarcastic reactions to topics if you don't like them?

It isn't only the Staff who react to idiotic thread topics.
The Staff is usually included, but other people react.
This thread topic is idiotic. My 2 cents

A preseason game is a prelude to nothing.
The last team to go winless in the preseason and win the SuperBowl was the 1982 Washington Redskins. The last two SuperBowl Champions have gone 1-3 in the preseason. Preseason is an indicator of who will and who will not make the final roster, and that is all. It is no indication of how a team will perform in the regular season.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:22 am

oneman56 wrote:how come the staff on this board are the ones who criticize what is posted? Or atleast have sarcastic reactions to topics if you don't like them?

In your opinion, should being a staff member preclude one from making observations and trying to bring a little levity to a topic? Should a member, upon becoming a staff member, turn in their posting privledges?

oneman56 · Post by **oneman56** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:22 am

so, in your opinion it's idiotic? The poster asked what people think and if that's your opinion then fine, if other's opinions are something different then that should fine too and shouldn't elicit responses of sarcasm and this is an idiotic thread. If that's the case then anyone can respond that way to any post, is that what you want on a message board?

grampi · Post by **grampi** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:28 am

Any topic or post in this forum the usual attackers don't agree with is idiotic. They would be great on a debate team. Their only argument would always be "your idea sucks and your an idiot."

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:31 am

oneman56 wrote:so, in your opinion it's idiotic? The poster asked what people think and if that's your opinion then fine, if other's opinions are something different then that should fine too and shouldn't elicit responses of sarcasm and this is an idiotic thread. If that's the case then anyone can respond that way to any post, is that what you want on a message board?

Since I didn't use the term idiotic, I assume this was meant for GSPODS, but let me just interject that message boards are a place for everyone to voice their opinions. Some poeple may have an opinion that a pre-season game is a good indicator of the upcoming season, others may not, others still, may thing that either opinion is idiotic. The point is, that as long as a post is within the rules, anyone can say anything they wish.

I may have missed something, but I didn't see anything from a staff member that crossed the line. If you feel they did, please point it out.

That being said, you are also free to voice your opinion on what you think staff members may or may not be doing. Freedom of speech is what this board is built on. Just realize that someone, regardless of member status, will probably disagree with something someone says and post a rebuttal.

In this particular case, there wasn't much post to discuss, and what was there was extremely pessimistic, and got responses based on the pessimism, since there wasn't much to actually talk about.

grampi · Post by **grampi** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:31 am

grampi wrote:Any topic or post in this forum the usual attackers don't agree with is idiotic. They would be great on a debate team. Their only argument would always be "your idea sucks and your an idiot. I could turn around and say anyone's post who doesn't agree with mine is idiotic, but then I'd be one of them."

oneman56 · Post by **oneman56** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:33 am

[quote]oneman56 wrote:
how come the staff on this board are the ones who criticize what is posted? Or atleast have sarcastic reactions to topics if you don't like them?

In your opinion, should being a staff member preclude one from making observations and trying to bring a little levity to a topic? Should a member, upon becoming a staff member, turn in their posting privledges?[quote]

Is the "sky is falling" bringing levity to a topic? I didn't say anything about posting priviledges being revoked or altered did I? I have noticed in reading posts that if someone posts a comment in a negative fashion about a pre-season game then the staff is quick to respond with the sky is falling. If someone posted the team will be 12-4 do you respond to them saying your sky is too high and feel that you brought levity to that topic as well? Let's say we lose in week 1 and someone says we look horrible etc, etc. are you gonna dismiss it as it's only week 1 there's a lot of season left the sky is falling. It's a message board and it's someone's opinion that team looks bad. I agree pre-season isn't ALWAYS a measuring stick of the season to come but it's all we have to look at as of now so I would think the Staff would want people posting anything regardless if it's negative, positive or in between.

NC43Hog · Post by **NC43Hog** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:34 am

oneman56 wrote:so, in your opinion it's idiotic? The poster asked what people think and if that's your opinion then fine, if other's opinions are something different then that should fine too and shouldn't elicit responses of sarcasm and this is an idiotic thread. If that's the case then anyone can respond that way to any post, is that what you want on a message board?

It is all well and good to post a response to that opinion - as long as you don't attack the poster.

Another rule is staying on topic or start another thread in the appropriate forum.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:35 am

grampi wrote:Any topic or post in this forum the usual attackers don't agree with is idiotic. They would be great on a debate team. Their only argument would always be "your idea sucks and your an idiot. I could turn around and say anyone's post who doesn't agree with mine is idiotic, but then I'd be one of them."

Of course, no one called you an idiot, since that would be a violation of the site rules. Your "idea" is that we should extrapolate an entire season from one pre-season game. I -- and many others -- think that idea is utterly and wholly without merit. You may not like the manner in which that is expressed but if you don't want dissenting replies, don't start threads asking for opinions.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:36 am

oneman56 wrote:Is the "sky is falling" bringing levity to a topic? I didn't say anything about posting priviledges being revoked or altered did I? I have noticed in reading posts that if someone posts a comment in a negative fashion about a pre-season game then the staff is quick to respond with the sky is falling. If someone posted the team will be 12-4 do you respond to them saying your sky is too high and feel that you brought levity to that topic as well? Let's say we lose in week 1 and someone says we look horrible etc, etc. are you gonna dismiss it as it's only week 1 there's a lot of season left the sky is falling. It's a message board and it's someone's opinion that team looks bad. I agree pre-season isn't ALWAYS a measuring stick of the season to come but it's all we have to look at as of now so I would think the Staff would want people posting anything regardless if it's negative, positive or in between.

Grampi posted his opinion, BossHog posted his. If someone posts that the Redskins will finish 12-4, someone will say that that's not the case. Who does it is irrelevent IMHO.

MDSKINSFAN · Post by **MDSKINSFAN** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:37 am

not yet but the offensive line looked terrible and if they even plan on winning the FIRST game they better find a way to fix that becuase the giants will do more than the panthers even without umenyiora. as for the offense as a whole i do think that it will come around with a little time... i hope. im not as worried about the offense as i am the defense. they havent looked good all preseason and the panthers game was just the worst of it. the cowboys will kill us if we play like that on D. im not too high on blache right now and as much as i hated greg williams with the prevents defense i liked him a lot more than i like blache at this point. i hope that we just came out flat in a meaningless game and we will pick it up when the season starts

oneman56 · Post by **oneman56** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:39 am

I guess none of this is really that important so i'll move on to another topic in the forum, and yes Jansenfan I agree with you that per the rules nothing in this thread was against the rules set and it wasn't offending anyone either. I am not on staff and can only imagine the work it takes to keep this the way it is for all of us to enjoy so with that said i will move on.

NC43Hog · Post by **NC43Hog** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:42 am

I am more worried about things like - false starts, penalties, careless miscues, turnovers, etc.

We have had a pretty good preseason in this area up until Sat. night so I hope it was just a blip.

One other thought - the OL played badly, but not sure all the stuff regarding Buges may have been weighing on them too heavily. Just a thought.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:43 am

oneman56 wrote:I guess none of this is really that important so i'll move on to another topic in the forum, and yes Jansenfan I agree with you that per the rules nothing in this thread was against the rules set and it wasn't offending anyone either. I am not on staff and can only imagine the work it takes to keep this the way it is for all of us to enjoy so with that said i will move on.

I'm not trying to call you out or attack you. I'm just trying to point out that we're all just Redskins fans voicing our opinions, regardless of whether we are on staff, we're a regular poster or a brand new member.

I understand your point, and I hope you understand mine.

That being said, I don't think we can take too much out of this pre-season game, because we don't know everything going on behind the scenes. I know that the pass protection was bad, but how much of it was O-line, how much was Campbell still learning the proper reads, how good is Carolina this season, etc. etc.

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:52 am

oneman56 wrote:how come the staff on this board are the ones who criticize what is posted? Or atleast have sarcastic reactions to topics if you don't like them?

I'll tell you what, if we had a rule against sarcasm, then maybe you'd have a better point, but we don't.

Nobody broke a single rule and we are all just as entitled to an opinion as anyone else. I'm sorry if that bothers you, but nobody here gets anything for their time but the satisfaction of a job well done. I'd be stupid to additonally strip them of their right to express an opinion.

The moderators are there to get people to post within the rules, and are actually held to a higher standard than any of you ever will be. That doesn't mean that they won't make mistakes, but there certainly aren't any in this thread.

Just as someone is entitled to publicly state that they think the world sucks and so do the Redskins... thy have made it public record to be challenged by ANYONE here as long as it is within the confines of the rules.