Some Snyder Love...by By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports

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Some Snyder Love...by By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports

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This peice was cut from the article by Michael Silver, of the best NFL owners. And I thought this was a good positive article about the team owner....Mr. Snyder.

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgKd9lOC_vhYOUd2L8Kr5QNDubYF?slug=ms-ownersrankingsparttwo072308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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3. Washington Redskins – Daniel Snyder: When most fans hear Snyder’s name, they blurt out words to describe him that might not be suitable for network television. Here’s the first one that comes to my mind: Awesome. Snyder generates revenue like a money-printing machine (his team ranks first in the NFL, at a reported $312 million, and is also atop the league in sponsorship dollars), happily spends it to improve his franchise and makes his players – you know, the ones who destroy their bodies on Sundays for the pleasure of the masses – feel pampered and appreciated. He is the closest thing to former 49ers boss Eddie DeBartolo, and eventually he’ll get the rings to prove it.

What went down Sunday at Redskins Park tells you all you need to know about Snyder’s ownership style. While attending the Skins’ first practice of training camp, Snyder and executive vice president Vinny Cerrato winced as veteran defensive Phillip Daniels went down with a knee injury. On their way to lunch in the cafeteria, they learned that Daniels had suffered a season-ending torn ACL. After sitting down with coach Jim Zorn and defensive coordinator Greg Blache, they began discussing their options. “I want to win,” Snyder told the group. “Let’s do what we have to do to win.” Concluding that disgruntled Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor was by far the best player they’d have a chance to acquire, Snyder gave the go-ahead to make a trade. Before finishing his meal Cerrato was on the phone with Parcells, Miami’s executive vice president of football operations, discussing a trade for the 2006 NFL defensive player of the year. By that evening the deal was done, with Washington giving up second- and sixth-round draft picks, and Snyder agreeing to shell out $16 million over two years, the remaining money on Taylor’s contract. Because of Snyder’s aggressive approach, the ‘Skins were able to acquire Taylor before their NFC East rivals, the Giants, could work out a three-way trade with the Dolphins and Saints that would have sent Taylor to New Orleans for second- and fifth-round picks, followed by a swap of Taylor for tight end Jeremy Shockey.

Upon the trade’s completion, Snyder sent his private jet to pick up Taylor’s wife and children in the Dallas area; it then flew to South Florida to collect the newest Redskins player and transport him to training camp. That’s the same jet that, last December, whisked quarterback Todd Collins up to Boston in time to join his wife (who’d been induced into emergency labor) before she gave birth to the couple’s son. After Hurricane Katrina Snyder flew tight end Robert Royal to New Orleans to collect his family, who hopped aboard the jet and returned to Northern Virginia. And last December he chartered a 747 to fly the entire team to slain safety Sean Taylor’s funeral in Miami. That move wasn’t about winning; it was about doing the right thing. When Snyder finally hoists the Lombardi Trophy one of these years, it might be worth biting your tongue – at least in front of the kids.
"It's almost like, you play a kid's game for a king's ransom," he said. "And if you don't take it serious enough, eventually one day you're going to say, 'Oh, I could have done this, I could have done that."
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Skinna Mob wrote:This peice was cut from the article by Michael Silver, of the best NFL owners. And I thought this was a good positive article about the team owner....Mr. Snyder.

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgKd9lOC_vhYOUd2L8Kr5QNDubYF?slug=ms-ownersrankingsparttwo072308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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3. Washington Redskins – Daniel Snyder: When most fans hear Snyder’s name, they blurt out words to describe him that might not be suitable for network television. Here’s the first one that comes to my mind: Awesome. Snyder generates revenue like a money-printing machine (his team ranks first in the NFL, at a reported $312 million, and is also atop the league in sponsorship dollars), happily spends it to improve his franchise and makes his players – you know, the ones who destroy their bodies on Sundays for the pleasure of the masses – feel pampered and appreciated. He is the closest thing to former 49ers boss Eddie DeBartolo, and eventually he’ll get the rings to prove it.

What went down Sunday at Redskins Park tells you all you need to know about Snyder’s ownership style. While attending the Skins’ first practice of training camp, Snyder and executive vice president Vinny Cerrato winced as veteran defensive Phillip Daniels went down with a knee injury. On their way to lunch in the cafeteria, they learned that Daniels had suffered a season-ending torn ACL. After sitting down with coach Jim Zorn and defensive coordinator Greg Blache, they began discussing their options. “I want to win,” Snyder told the group. “Let’s do what we have to do to win.” Concluding that disgruntled Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor was by far the best player they’d have a chance to acquire, Snyder gave the go-ahead to make a trade. Before finishing his meal Cerrato was on the phone with Parcells, Miami’s executive vice president of football operations, discussing a trade for the 2006 NFL defensive player of the year. By that evening the deal was done, with Washington giving up second- and sixth-round draft picks, and Snyder agreeing to shell out $16 million over two years, the remaining money on Taylor’s contract. Because of Snyder’s aggressive approach, the ‘Skins were able to acquire Taylor before their NFC East rivals, the Giants, could work out a three-way trade with the Dolphins and Saints that would have sent Taylor to New Orleans for second- and fifth-round picks, followed by a swap of Taylor for tight end Jeremy Shockey.

Upon the trade’s completion, Snyder sent his private jet to pick up Taylor’s wife and children in the Dallas area; it then flew to South Florida to collect the newest Redskins player and transport him to training camp. That’s the same jet that, last December, whisked quarterback Todd Collins up to Boston in time to join his wife (who’d been induced into emergency labor) before she gave birth to the couple’s son. After Hurricane Katrina Snyder flew tight end Robert Royal to New Orleans to collect his family, who hopped aboard the jet and returned to Northern Virginia. And last December he chartered a 747 to fly the entire team to slain safety Sean Taylor’s funeral in Miami. That move wasn’t about winning; it was about doing the right thing. When Snyder finally hoists the Lombardi Trophy one of these years, it might be worth biting your tongue – at least in front of the kids.
Um, well I'm not so sure I'm ready to come around yet on The Danny. I do, however think once The Danny figures it out like the Devil Himself in Texas there will be some hoisting of trophey's.
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There are several Danny's. There is Danny the owner, who makes sure everything associated with the Redskins is first class. There is Danny the fantasy football owner, the football fan who salivates every time a Chad Johnson, Lance Briggs or Jason Taylor is rumored to be unhappy with their respective team. Then there is the Danny who is a marketing genius, who can make money with the best of the best.

I think some of these traits are a result of a guy who has learned to make money by being aggressive, never taking "No" for an answer and never shying away from a challenge. In order to become an exceptional owner in the NFL, where free market capitalism doesn't exist because there is a salary cap, he will need to learn the art of patience and how to defer important football decisions to his expert staff. He has started to turn that corner, I think in part from working with Joe Gibbs and in part from sheer experience.

There is no doubt that his heart is in the right place. There is no doubt that winning is the first priority and there are many teams that cannot say that about their owner. If we the fans can be patient a little longer, I think the best of Dan Snyder is yet to come.
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fleetus wrote:There are several Danny's. There is Danny the owner, who makes sure everything associated with the Redskins is first class. There is Danny the fantasy football owner, the football fan who salivates every time a Chad Johnson, Lance Briggs or Jason Taylor is rumored to be unhappy with their respective team. Then there is the Danny who is a marketing genius, who can make money with the best of the best.

I think some of these traits are a result of a guy who has learned to make money by being aggressive, never taking "No" for an answer and never shying away from a challenge. In order to become an exceptional owner in the NFL, where free market capitalism doesn't exist because there is a salary cap, he will need to learn the art of patience and how to defer important football decisions to his expert staff. He has started to turn that corner, I think in part from working with Joe Gibbs and in part from sheer experience.

There is no doubt that his heart is in the right place. There is no doubt that winning is the first priority and there are many teams that cannot say that about their owner. If we the fans can be patient a little longer, I think the best of Dan Snyder is yet to come.


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Secondary_Chaos wrote:
fleetus wrote:There are several Danny's. There is Danny the owner, who makes sure everything associated with the Redskins is first class. There is Danny the fantasy football owner, the football fan who salivates every time a Chad Johnson, Lance Briggs or Jason Taylor is rumored to be unhappy with their respective team. Then there is the Danny who is a marketing genius, who can make money with the best of the best.

I think some of these traits are a result of a guy who has learned to make money by being aggressive, never taking "No" for an answer and never shying away from a challenge. In order to become an exceptional owner in the NFL, where free market capitalism doesn't exist because there is a salary cap, he will need to learn the art of patience and how to defer important football decisions to his expert staff. He has started to turn that corner, I think in part from working with Joe Gibbs and in part from sheer experience.

There is no doubt that his heart is in the right place. There is no doubt that winning is the first priority and there are many teams that cannot say that about their owner. If we the fans can be patient a little longer, I think the best of Dan Snyder is yet to come.


=D> \:D/ :celebrate: :rock: :up: HTTR

Amen man.


Why not? It's not like we have a choice anyway.

Oh, and some cynics might say that it was the incompetence of the FO that put us one torn ACL away from disaster on the DL, and that we're one torn ACL from similar chaos on the OL, all because the FO went WR happy. Or that throwing away a 2nd round draft choice on a player good for 1 year, maybe 2 tops is insane, even granting that our FO usually wastes 2nd rounders anyway...but why be negative?
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old-timer wrote:Why not? It's not like we have a choice anyway.

Oh, and some cynics might say that it was the incompetence of the FO that put us one torn ACL away from disaster on the DL, and that we're one torn ACL from similar chaos on the OL, all because the FO went WR happy. Or that throwing away a 2nd round draft choice on a player good for 1 year, maybe 2 tops is insane, even granting that our FO usually wastes 2nd rounders anyway...but why be negative?


When are your posts ever positive?
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old-timer wrote:Why not? It's not like we have a choice anyway.

Oh, and some cynics might say that it was the incompetence of the FO that put us one torn ACL away from disaster on the DL, and that we're one torn ACL from similar chaos on the OL, all because the FO went WR happy. Or that throwing away a 2nd round draft choice on a player good for 1 year, maybe 2 tops is insane, even granting that our FO usually wastes 2nd rounders anyway...but why be negative?


When are your posts ever positive?


When are your posts ever realistic? Seriously, if all people want to do here is make excuses for Snyder, you should expect to take nothing but flak, constantly, from people like me who actually thing the success of the team is more important than defending a guy who has, up to now, been a failure in bringing the team success on the field. I used to think that as fans, we all agreed that the success of the team on the field was the most important thing. Nowadays, it seems more important for most of you guys to defend Snyder because he makes a lot of money and seems to try real hard. Sorry, but that doesn't cut it for me.

Seriously, nobody wants to hear anything bad about this team, even when it's common sense. Everyone knows that the Redskins management put themselves in this position through poor personnel planning. Here's Mike Wise:

If Taylor fizzles, the Redskins have to bite the bullet and realize they put themselves in this position long before Daniels went down.

By their own doing, they neglected real upgrades to the defensive line. Andre Carter was the only bona fide change the past five years. Demetric Evans and Anthony Montgomery have yet to realize their potential.


Oh, and I know what the first response on this board will be, just like it always is when anyone in the press dares to criticize Dan Snyder: "[fill in the blank] doesn't know what he/she is talking about!" "[fill in the blank] is a Snyder hater!" "I'm going to cancel my [fill in the blank] subscription". Just give me a break, that's all I ask, then I'll stop being so negative. Somebody has to counteract all this braindead thinking around here.
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old-timer wrote:Oh, and some cynics might say that it was the incompetence of the FO that put us one torn ACL away from disaster on the DL, and that we're one torn ACL from similar chaos on the OL, all because the FO went WR happy. Or that throwing away a 2nd round draft choice on a player good for 1 year, maybe 2 tops is insane, even granting that our FO usually wastes 2nd rounders anyway...but why be negative?

It was that same FO that, by its improved prudence in the FA market the past 2-3 years, had the necessary cap room to make the Taylor trade without having to re-work any existing contracts.
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old-timer wrote:
Fios wrote:
old-timer wrote:Why not? It's not like we have a choice anyway.

Oh, and some cynics might say that it was the incompetence of the FO that put us one torn ACL away from disaster on the DL, and that we're one torn ACL from similar chaos on the OL, all because the FO went WR happy. Or that throwing away a 2nd round draft choice on a player good for 1 year, maybe 2 tops is insane, even granting that our FO usually wastes 2nd rounders anyway...but why be negative?


When are your posts ever positive?


When are your posts ever realistic? Seriously, if all people want to do here is make excuses for Snyder, you should expect to take nothing but flak, constantly, from people like me who actually thing the success of the team is more important than defending a guy who has, up to now, been a failure in bringing the team success on the field. I used to think that as fans, we all agreed that the success of the team on the field was the most important thing. Nowadays, it seems more important for most of you guys to defend Snyder because he makes a lot of money and seems to try real hard. Sorry, but that doesn't cut it for me.

Seriously, nobody wants to hear anything bad about this team, even when it's common sense. Everyone knows that the Redskins management put themselves in this position through poor personnel planning. Here's Mike Wise:

If Taylor fizzles, the Redskins have to bite the bullet and realize they put themselves in this position long before Daniels went down.

By their own doing, they neglected real upgrades to the defensive line. Andre Carter was the only bona fide change the past five years. Demetric Evans and Anthony Montgomery have yet to realize their potential.


Oh, and I know what the first response on this board will be, just like it always is when anyone in the press dares to criticize Dan Snyder: "[fill in the blank] doesn't know what he/she is talking about!" "[fill in the blank] is a Snyder hater!" "I'm going to cancel my [fill in the blank] subscription". Just give me a break, that's all I ask, then I'll stop being so negative. Somebody has to counteract all this braindead thinking around here.


I have no problem criticizing the team, I have -- on many occasions -- my history here speaks for itself, whatever you choose to believe about it is up to you. Go back through my posts, see how popular I was when I wrote a column calling for Gibbs to step down last season.
It's the UNRELENTING, sky-is-falling tone that gets old in your posts. You do not seem to be able to be subjective about the FO, it's all gloom and doom. The Snyder detractors on this site far outnumber the defenders (or, more accurately, people who simply do not see him as evil incarnate). It's not even a contest, look in the blogs, the guy who runs the site isn't exactly a fan.
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I just thought I would point out that our FO is getting better and there are many teams in the NFL who would like to even sniff the playoffs. You know like it or not our FO wants to win and while we may not like their methods we have seen the playoffs twice in recent seasons and I am a firm believer that once you make the playoffs its stops being about personel and becoming more about coaching and players heart, just look at the Giants last year they were out classed in nearly every position last year and still managed to win it all.
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old-timer wrote:Here's Mike Wise:

If Taylor fizzles, the Redskins have to bite the bullet and realize they put themselves in this position long before Daniels went down.

By their own doing, they neglected real upgrades to the defensive line. Andre Carter was the only bona fide change the past five years. Demetric Evans and Anthony Montgomery have yet to realize their potential.


It's interesting you chose that quote, since I laughed when I first read it. Didn't they also bring in Cornelius Griffin in 2004 (that's within 5 years, isn't it), and they now have a new starting DT that seems to have worlds of potential and played well last year (Montgomery)? Those don't qualify as bona-fide changes (especially Griffin?)

If he's solely talking about the DE position, I can maybe agree with him, but he specified the "defensive line." Griffin is a very conspicuous addition that makes his assertion completely incorrect.

You also may not drink the Snyder kool-aid, but I have a hard time with:

Seriously, if all people want to do here is make excuses for Snyder, you should expect to take nothing but flak, constantly, from people like me who actually thing the success of the team is more important than defending a guy who has, up to now, been a failure in bringing the team success on the field.


Under Snyder, we've been to the playoffs what, 3 times in the past 9 years. After Gibbs left, we didn't go to the playoffs at all in the next 6 years.

That's an improvement, isn't it? 3 is more than 0, right? Is it 80's Niners success? Hell no. But it's marketedly better than what he inherited. By some measure, that qualifies as success, right?

Or is it Superbowl or nothing? Because if that's your attitude, you should meet a friend I have called reality.

Fleetus wrote:There is no doubt that his heart is in the right place. There is no doubt that winning is the first priority and there are many teams that cannot say that about their owner. If we the fans can be patient a little longer, I think the best of Dan Snyder is yet to come.


I agree with that. I think he's getting better, but this quote from the linked article made me laugh non-stop:

He is the closest thing to former 49ers boss Eddie DeBartolo, and eventually he’ll get the rings to prove it.


Seriously? Eddie DeBartolo? Snyder has a long, long way before he gets to that level.
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I have criticized Snyder a ton myself. He has made loads of mistakes. But then, he also has a great talent for rectifying those mistakes. DeBartolo is a good example regarding FO mistakes. The end of the 49ers roll came when he overpaid for veterans and gave up draft picks that put the team in salary cap hell. Snyder made those same mistakes and has had the media predicting salary cap hell every year he's been here. It hasn't happened yet.

Snyder constantly believes we are one player away from the Super Bowl. you have to love that in an owner even when it is a mistake. Yes he needs a GM with the stones to tell him "No, that is too risky". Don't know if Cerrato can become that guy or not, but I did like what they did this off-season. Yes, he might have rolled the dice with Chad Johnson if given the chance. But then, maybe we would have had Johnson at WR, and used our 2nd round pick on a DE as a result. That path may have been just as good or better, who knows.

Bottom line is, no one is saying Snyder doesn't deserve criticism. All I'm saying is, it is nice having an owner who lives and breathes Redskins football and whose biggest fault is that he tries TOO hard sometimes. I'll take that over 90% of the other owners every time.
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The man did spend a lot of money for things, like the 747 to Sean's Funeral, that's class.

He makes mistakes, he wants to win, he cares, and he wants to make money. Over all, he's a good owner who is trying, which is more than we can say about some owners.

As Shake said. Some are bashers, some are supporters. Some of you need to be more open minded. The haters don't see the good things, and the supporters don't see the bad things. Its like the yen and the yang for a true fan. You take the good with the bad. It is what it is.
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fleetus wrote:Bottom line is, no one is saying Snyder doesn't deserve criticism. All I'm saying is, it is nice having an owner who lives and breathes Redskins football and whose biggest fault is that he tries TOO hard sometimes. I'll take that over 90% of the other owners every time.


I completely agree with you here, Fleetus.
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PulpExposure wrote:
fleetus wrote:Bottom line is, no one is saying Snyder doesn't deserve criticism. All I'm saying is, it is nice having an owner who lives and breathes Redskins football and whose biggest fault is that he tries TOO hard sometimes. I'll take that over 90% of the other owners every time.


I completely agree with you here, Fleetus.


Me too. Good summary :up:
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