A prayer is needed for one of the raiders

[VetSkinsFan]

This crime would not have occured had he used a modicum of common sense.

I'll grant you this. But there is no law requiring Americans to have a modicum of sense, otherwise the population would be reduced by roughly 75%. The closest we come to that law is the one that says that ignorance of the law is not an excuse. There is also no law against being an idiot, a moron or a mental defective. Look at the people who run the country.

There is also no law that requires I have sympathy towards a self-destructive idiot.

True. But there is a law that says you can't shoot people too stupid to live.
You're also far more intelligent than the average professional athelete.
For every Bernie Kosar and Steve Young, there's 20 Rod Smart's and Rae Carruth's.

I fail to grasp how this relates to the prevailing (and erroneous) opinion in this thread that I am a heartless bastage for considering Walker to be an idiot. I am not advocating shooting him, merely pointing out that he does not deserve sympathy for his stupidity.

Rod Smart, to my recollection, was merely hated by his brother ("He Hate Me"), while Rae Carruth may deserve to be shot. but not for stupidity.

Yeah, b/c it's not a tragedy that people decided to take what tehy wanted from the stupid and idiotic.. Every time some idiot it robbed, it's still a societal problem and that this is an acceptable behavior from some people is the tragedy.

[ChocolateMilk]

What i think CT is trying to say is Walker has been in the same exact situation before and his friend and teammate was killed in a result of it.

And for him to put himself in the same situation, even after he had said he's learned his lesson, is just stupid and idiotic.

Im not saying he deserved to get beat up, or robbed, or anything. And it sucks that it happend. But before he went and got drunk and started spraying champagne on everyone, he should have thought about what happend the last time he did something like that. He knows from experience that acting like that leads to bad news. Yet he still did. So he's either brave, or an idiot. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the ladder

[JansenFan]

I am not disputing any of that. I just think that if it were my son, and he didn't something stupid and got beat up and robbed, my first thoughts would be for his well-being and then I'd think about getting the guys that did it. Once I knew he was OK, then i'd move onto the "what were you thinking" stage. When I read this thread, everyone jumped right to "what an idiot." I wasn't trying to call anyone out or whatever. I still don't understand the anger in the response.

[yupchagee]

The 1st principal of self defense ia avoidance. Avoid troublesome places & situations. That said, those who ignore this principal don't deserve to become victims.

BTW, I think this is the 1st time in franchise history that a Raider has been the victim rather than the perpetrator of a crime.

[ChocolateMilk]

when i made my statement i was under the impression that he was beat up and robbed but will be okay and would be released that following tuesday. so i figured he was alright which is the most important thing, you're right.. i should have pointed that out, my bad

[DEHog]

You might think that after his last bad experience with the bubbly, Javon Walker would not have been out spraying bottles of Dom Perignon on people partying in a Las Vegas nightclub.

You might.

You might think the Oakland Raiders would have figured out Walker could be bad news at any price, much less the US$16 million he was guaranteed to play wide receiver for them.

You might.

Unlike the Raiders, Walker has an excuse of sorts. Like many athletes he's young, dumb and so flush with money that he can't wait to buy $900 bottles of champagne just to shower people with.

Just how dumb really comes into focus when you think about what happened with Walker just 18 months ago when police believe champagne spraying by a teammate touched off a fight in a Denver nightclub. When it was over, Walker was in a limousine cradling a dying Darrent Williams in his arms.

Al Davis isn't that dumb, just increasingly desperate. The architect of the great Raider teams of old isn't getting any younger and he badly needs someone to catch the balls thrown by JaMarcus Russell if the Raiders are going to have a chance to win again.

Davis rolled the dice on Walker not because the Raiders have a reputation of taking the NFL's trash and turning it into treasure. He did it for the same reason he took Randy Moss a few years back and the same reason Jerry Jones takes every misfit who can find his way to Dallas.

They want to win so badly they can't help themselves.

In Walker's case, the Raiders knew they were getting someone who had antagonized Brett Favre in Green Bay, was with Williams when he was shot after a night out in Denver, and had a history of bickering with the teams that employed him. But when the Broncos unceremoniously cut him, he got a $55 million deal from the Raiders.

Walker has yet to play a down for the Raiders but he rewarded that faith earlier this week when he was found unconscious, beaten and robbed, on a Las Vegas street corner, hours after being seen spraying champagne on fellow clubbers at a nightclub. Technically he's a victim, guilty only of random champagne madness, since stupidity by itself is not a crime.

Down in Texas, meanwhile, former bad boy Michael Irvin is helping baby-sit various Cowboys in hopes they'll all be ready to play opening day. So far, Terrrell Owens has for the most part kept his mouth shut, Tank Johnson has kept his guns home and Pacman Jones has kept out of strip clubs.

While Jones hopes his good behaviour will get him reinstated for the upcoming season, his past keeps popping up at just the wrong time. In the latest chapter in the Pacman saga, a woman involved in a Las Vegas brawl that police say Jones incited was found dead last week behind a building in the Bronx after a fall from a building.

That by itself won't stop Jones from getting reinstated by commissioner Roger Goodell. There is, however, the little matter of his testimony in the case of a man charged in the Vegas shooting that left a strip club bouncer paralyzed. The man told a television station last month that Jones ordered the shooting and was trying to frame him for the crime.

Cowboy fans, of course, couldn't care less what Jones did in his past if he can help them get to the Super Bowl. And neither does Jerry Jones, who worries more about selling expensive seats in his new stadium than the legal problems of his latest project.

While I won't say I'm happy this happened to him...I will say it's better that he was the one who felt the wrath this time and not one of his teammates. I'm sure Williams would have much rather had a beatdown!