Who do u think is the best football fans in the league

redskins_89 · Post by **redskins_89** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:30 am

I say the redskin fans cause we don't just focus and care on the superstars and winning, we care and want good information on every player, imo i think other teams just focus on TO, Randy MOss, BRian Westbrook.

The redskins the whole starting lineup and extra players we root and care for and won't get pissed off if we lose a game very much

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:48 am

See, I would love to say us but at the same time, I see so many of the oposing fans in our stadium every week where some times it looks like we are playing an away game. JMO

If I had to choose, I would go with Kansas City or Green Bay. Those two teams never sell their tickets and get amazing support from their fans. You also have to put in the fact that the weather is one hell of a challenge for them but someway somehow, they are consistantly sold out each year.

tj123456 · Post by **tj123456** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:41 am

yeah i would have to say green bay with out a doubt... i know how much i love this team, but sometimes I question support at actual games...

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:40 am

KC with out a doubt!

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:49 am

I have to go with the cheeseheads.

GSPODS · Post by **GSPODS** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:39 am

I go with the players wives and girlfriends.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:43 pm

Myself, of course.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:02 pm

KC, Green Bay, or Pittsburgh

PMG12569 · Post by **PMG12569** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:39 am

Alright you cannot measure fans by the turnout of the home crowd. Due to our radius of such a city a lot of those tickets our corporate and owned by people that use them as recreation. The only reason everyone says KC or Green Bay is because they are blue collar towns. They dont sell there tickets because they want to go the game because there is nothing else to do in GB and KC isnt that exciting either. We are just as die hard as every fan base out there. We are just held back by the corporate environment that surrounds the Nations Capital. Dont sell us short fellas! We also have an owner that likes to make ticket prices outrageous so the guy who has been doing construction all his life that has Redskin Tatoos cant afford to go to the game. Not speaking from experience just knowledge of die hard stories.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:07 am

PMG12569 wrote:Alright you cannot measure fans by the turnout of the home crowd. Due to our radius of such a city a lot of those tickets our corporate and owned by people that use them as recreation. The only reason everyone says KC or Green Bay is because they are blue collar towns. They dont sell there tickets because they want to go the game because there is nothing else to do in GB and KC isnt that exciting either. We are just as die hard as every fan base out there. We are just held back by the corporate environment that surrounds the Nations Capital. Dont sell us short fellas! We also have an owner that likes to make ticket prices outrageous so the guy who has been doing construction all his life that has Redskin Tatoos cant afford to go to the game. Not speaking from experience just knowledge of die hard stories.

Whatever. The fact is, FANS turnout in KC, GB, and Pittsburgh. Not so much in DC (anymore... but we USED to be the bomb).

What once was... a typical home game at RFK in the beginning of the Gibbs era... STANDING... no... BOUNCING in rickety end-zone stands on a miserable, rainy Sunday in late fall of 1982, awaiting a kickoff from the Eagles. Mike Nelms pulled a towel from his belt, and started waving it... the stadium went wild. You couldn't hear your own voice. the stands were bouncing 12-18 inches. All we were doing was waiting for a kickoff, and you'd think it was fourth and one, with the championship game on the line.

That was wild. Those were fans. Teams HATED to play at RFK.

Long-Time Skins Fan · Post by **Long-Time Skins Fan** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:59 am

Countertrey wrote:
PMG12569 wrote:Alright you cannot measure fans by the turnout of the home crowd. Due to our radius of such a city a lot of those tickets our corporate and owned by people that use them as recreation. The only reason everyone says KC or Green Bay is because they are blue collar towns. They dont sell there tickets because they want to go the game because there is nothing else to do in GB and KC isnt that exciting either. We are just as die hard as every fan base out there. We are just held back by the corporate environment that surrounds the Nations Capital. Dont sell us short fellas! We also have an owner that likes to make ticket prices outrageous so the guy who has been doing construction all his life that has Redskin Tatoos cant afford to go to the game. Not speaking from experience just knowledge of die hard stories.

Whatever. The fact is, FANS turnout in KC, GB, and Pittsburgh. Not so much in DC (anymore... but we USED to be the bomb).

What once was... a typical home game at RFK in the beginning of the Gibbs era... STANDING... no... BOUNCING in rickety end-zone stands on a miserable, rainy Sunday in late fall of 1982, awaiting a kickoff from the Eagles. Mike Nelms pulled a towel from his belt, and started waving it... the stadium went wild. You couldn't hear your own voice. the stands were bouncing 12-18 inches. All we were doing was waiting for a kickoff, and you'd think it was fourth and one, with the championship game on the line.

That was wild. Those were fans. Teams HATED to play at RFK.

I definately agree with you on RFK... That place was MAGICAL... The energy in that stadium was second to none. I know exactly what you mean about the bouncing... every game I would watch the visitors side stands just waiting for it to collapse. It was nothing for the entire stadium to do the wave for the entire time the opponent had the ball. The energy in this stadium has never even come close to RFK. I used to go to the games at RFK as a kid and I have yet to witness the camaraderie as was there at those games. Those that missed those days can never understand.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:22 am

Long-Time Skins Fan wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
PMG12569 wrote:Alright you cannot measure fans by the turnout of the home crowd. Due to our radius of such a city a lot of those tickets our corporate and owned by people that use them as recreation. The only reason everyone says KC or Green Bay is because they are blue collar towns. They dont sell there tickets because they want to go the game because there is nothing else to do in GB and KC isnt that exciting either. We are just as die hard as every fan base out there. We are just held back by the corporate environment that surrounds the Nations Capital. Dont sell us short fellas! We also have an owner that likes to make ticket prices outrageous so the guy who has been doing construction all his life that has Redskin Tatoos cant afford to go to the game. Not speaking from experience just knowledge of die hard stories.

Whatever. The fact is, FANS turnout in KC, GB, and Pittsburgh. Not so much in DC (anymore... but we USED to be the bomb).

What once was... a typical home game at RFK in the beginning of the Gibbs era... STANDING... no... BOUNCING in rickety end-zone stands on a miserable, rainy Sunday in late fall of 1982, awaiting a kickoff from the Eagles. Mike Nelms pulled a towel from his belt, and started waving it... the stadium went wild. You couldn't hear your own voice. the stands were bouncing 12-18 inches. All we were doing was waiting for a kickoff, and you'd think it was fourth and one, with the championship game on the line.

That was wild. Those were fans. Teams HATED to play at RFK.

I definately agree with you on RFK... That place was MAGICAL... The energy in that stadium was second to none. I know exactly what you mean about the bouncing... every game I would watch the visitors side stands just waiting for it to collapse. It was nothing for the entire stadium to do the wave for the entire time the opponent had the ball. The energy in this stadium has never even come close to RFK. I used to go to the games at RFK as a kid and I have yet to witness the camaraderie as was there at those games. Those that missed those days can never understand.

All true...but no more...It's like that at Arrowhead!!

welch · Post by **welch** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:40 am

I say Redskin fans, but I mean:

- Fans in Griffith Stadium, enduring the dead-end teams of the '50s, hoping for an upset, but coming to the game no mater what he odds

- Fans at DC Stadium/RFK, where for another ten years the Redskins played mediocre football, and then, in 1971, the team showed it could beat anyone. How many consecutive sellouts, including those Mike Nixon/Bill McPeak (underrated coach) and Otto ("who needs a defense?") Graham teams?

- I don't count the Jack Kent Cooke Stadium (aka Fedex) era, because the organization seems to have chosen to reserve the lower layers to high-paying corporate ticket-holders, and to have banished fans higher and higher. I suppose that's the modern football business, but it doesn't show the true loyalty of Redskin fans.

gbUSC · Post by **gbUSC** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:14 pm

It's sad to hear the feelings on the board about FedEx. I never got a chance to see the Skins at RFK, but I've been to games at FedEx the past few years. I've had great times, but it definitely didn't blow me away like some college stadiums have. I will say that one thing always takes the atmosphere of a stadium up a notch - WINNING.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:01 pm

gbUSC wrote:It's sad to hear the feelings on the board about FedEx. I never got a chance to see the Skins at RFK, but I've been to games at FedEx the past few years. I've had great times, but it definitely didn't blow me away like some college stadiums have. I will say that one thing always takes the atmosphere of a stadium up a notch - WINNING.

Nothing FedEX does can compare to RFK in NOISE factor, nor for pure fan involvement. Nothing. Those who missed games at RFK missed a real treat. JKC, unfortunately, blew it when he didn't require the architect to ensure the same kind of acoustics and fan proximity as at RFK. Fellow old-timers... can you imagine how loud RFK would have been with as many fans as you could fit into FedEX???

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:06 pm

anyone that is a die hard Cardinals fan. If they can still follow and be loyal to that team, dam.

welch · Post by **welch** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:01 pm

Imagining 90,000 Redskin fans in RFK...what a thought!!! The "left field" portable stands bouncing. The sound rolling back from the grand-stand overhang.

Thank baseball. DC Stadium was built as a dual-purpose park, and the architects, whoever they were, decided to shield fans from the sun. Yes, we had day games back in 1963, and the Griffith Stadium bleachers were like the middle of New Hampshire Avenue -- after they widened it and cut away the trees -- at noon on a typical 95 degree July day. Withering.

So the architects built some shade and ditched the bleachers, giving DC/RFK that beautiful wrap-around grand-stand...the one that echoed noise back to the field.

FedEx seems to throw all sounds straight up into the air.

I've been to one game at FedEx, but I'm sure that no one at RFK had to put a message up saying "make noise".

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:34 pm

I've been to one game at FedEx, but I'm sure that no one at RFK had to put a message up saying "make noise".

Nope. Fans understood the game. The noise was automatic... and at the correct times... Plus, a request from a Redskin for MORE noise, was seen as a challenge... and, heaven help the opposing QB who backed away from center because he couldn't hear ("what? You expect us to get quiet???").

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:55 pm

It pains me to say it but FedEx fans suck ... I've just spent way too much of my time at games imploring people to make noise. Mood-wise, the place is just flat. Nor is this a good seats/bad seats divide any longer, the fans up top can be just as uninvolved as the fans in the better sections.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:19 am

Countertrey wrote:
gbUSC wrote:It's sad to hear the feelings on the board about FedEx. I never got a chance to see the Skins at RFK, but I've been to games at FedEx the past few years. I've had great times, but it definitely didn't blow me away like some college stadiums have. I will say that one thing always takes the atmosphere of a stadium up a notch - WINNING.

Nothing FedEX does can compare to RFK in NOISE factor, nor for pure fan involvement. Nothing. Those who missed games at RFK missed a real treat. JKC, unfortunately, blew it when he didn't require the architect to ensure the same kind of acoustics and fan proximity as at RFK. Fellow old-timers... can you imagine how loud RFK would have been with as many fans as you could fit into FedEX???

FedEx is just a very poorly designed stadium. It's completely soulless, and I'd really like to see Snyder build a new one (though it makes absolutely no business sense for him to take on that massive debt it would take to do so).