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Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


How about the fines and sanctions that will be imposed by the league upon teams that have recidivist players suspended or disciplined? Is that worth the risk?
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Countertrey wrote:
Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


How about the fines and sanctions that will be imposed by the league upon teams that have recidivist players suspended or disciplined? Is that worth the risk?


Snyder can afford it. It won't count against the cap.
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VetSkinsFan wrote:
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HEROHAMO wrote:I dont think he is that good of a player.

We have London Fletcher and young London Fletcher in the making in Blades.


As a rookie he showed great potential, check the stats. Plus Blades can also play Strong and Weakside LB. Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/s ... yerId=8462


Blades is too smal to play SLB


He played SLB during Preseason for Marcus and did well.
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Countertrey wrote:
Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


How about the fines and sanctions that will be imposed by the league upon teams that have recidivist players suspended or disciplined? Is that worth the risk?


Wow. Nerd alert!

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DaRealistJoka wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:
DaRealistJoka wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:I dont think he is that good of a player.

We have London Fletcher and young London Fletcher in the making in Blades.


As a rookie he showed great potential, check the stats. Plus Blades can also play Strong and Weakside LB. Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/s ... yerId=8462


Blades is too smal to play SLB


He played SLB during Preseason for Marcus and did well.


A quarter or 2 in preseason here and there does not qualify someone to start in a position.
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VetSkinsFan wrote:
DaRealistJoka wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:
DaRealistJoka wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:I dont think he is that good of a player.

We have London Fletcher and young London Fletcher in the making in Blades.


As a rookie he showed great potential, check the stats. Plus Blades can also play Strong and Weakside LB. Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/s ... yerId=8462


Blades is too smal to play SLB


He played SLB during Preseason for Marcus and did well.


A quarter or 2 in preseason here and there does not qualify someone to start in a position.



Please read the post before responding, nobody said anything about starting we are talking about dept at the LB position for the 08-09 season. I believe Blades is versatile enough to play all three positions if called on. Starting in a few years he will be able to play all three positions because in his spot duty he has played well in all three positions.
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DaRealistJoka wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:
DaRealistJoka wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:
DaRealistJoka wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:I dont think he is that good of a player.

We have London Fletcher and young London Fletcher in the making in Blades.


As a rookie he showed great potential, check the stats. Plus Blades can also play Strong and Weakside LB. Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/s ... yerId=8462


Blades is too smal to play SLB


He played SLB during Preseason for Marcus and did well.


A quarter or 2 in preseason here and there does not qualify someone to start in a position.



Please read the post before responding, nobody said anything about starting we are talking about dept at the LB position for the 08-09 season. I believe Blades is versatile enough to play all three positions if called on. Starting in a few years he will be able to play all three positions because in his spot duty he has played well in all three positions.


As I REread the post, I have nothing to change or add, see my above post.
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yupchagee wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


How about the fines and sanctions that will be imposed by the league upon teams that have recidivist players suspended or disciplined? Is that worth the risk?


Snyder can afford it. It won't count against the cap.


Can Snyder afford to loose draft picks?
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Countertrey wrote:
yupchagee wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


How about the fines and sanctions that will be imposed by the league upon teams that have recidivist players suspended or disciplined? Is that worth the risk?


Snyder can afford it. It won't count against the cap.


Can Snyder afford to loose draft picks?


Has any team ever lost draft picks because a player violated league rules? I don't remember that ever happenning.
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yupchagee wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
yupchagee wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


How about the fines and sanctions that will be imposed by the league upon teams that have recidivist players suspended or disciplined? Is that worth the risk?


Snyder can afford it. It won't count against the cap.


Can Snyder afford to loose draft picks?


Has any team ever lost draft picks because a player violated league rules? I don't remember that ever happenning.


Fines and other sanctions, including possible loss of draft picks by teams that bring in previously consequenced players who are sanctioned again, is new power that was given to the Commish just yesterday at the league meeting. So, this means that a team like Dallas, with Tank and, possibly, Adam Jones, have to hope that they are good boys always.

It's no longer just the risk of vet minimum.
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Countertrey wrote:
yupchagee wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
yupchagee wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
Just saying I think it is worth the risk at vet min.


How about the fines and sanctions that will be imposed by the league upon teams that have recidivist players suspended or disciplined? Is that worth the risk?


Snyder can afford it. It won't count against the cap.


Can Snyder afford to loose draft picks?


Has any team ever lost draft picks because a player violated league rules? I don't remember that ever happenning.


Fines and other sanctions, including possible loss of draft picks by teams that bring in previously consequenced players who are sanctioned again, is new power that was given to the Commish just yesterday at the league meeting. So, this means that a team like Dallas, with Tank and, possibly, Adam Jones, have to hope that they are good boys always.

It's no longer just the risk of vet minimum.


Thanks for the update, I missed that. That does change things.
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odell thurman is a former first round pick who was released after missing workouts due to his grandmother's funeral (which was later denied by Marvin Lewis).

He was "not working hard enough" to regain a spot on the team, and thus they moved on without him.

Perhaps a fresh start for this guy out of a carcinogen-laced locker room in Cincinnati is what he needs. I'd bring him in at least for a look in TC, and if he doesn't pan out then he doesn't pan out. He only has one year of football under his belt, so he's relatively young.

Here is what Carson Palmer said about the kid:

"Odell was a well-liked guy on the team, had possibly more talent than anybody we've seen come through here," sixth-year quarterback Carson Palmer said. "So it's tough to lose an athlete like that, a guy like that, and a draft pick.

"I mean, you only get so many second-round draft picks and when you only get one year out of them, it affects your team tremendously. It's just tough to lose the player that he was, and you really can't replace him."

Take a look, at least.
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skinsfano28 wrote:odell thurman is a former first round pick who was released after missing workouts due to his grandmother's funeral (which was later denied by Marvin Lewis).

He was "not working hard enough" to regain a spot on the team, and thus they moved on without him.

Perhaps a fresh start for this guy out of a carcinogen-laced locker room in Cincinnati is what he needs. I'd bring him in at least for a look in TC, and if he doesn't pan out then he doesn't pan out. He only has one year of football under his belt, so he's relatively young.

Here is what Carson Palmer said about the kid:

"Odell was a well-liked guy on the team, had possibly more talent than anybody we've seen come through here," sixth-year quarterback Carson Palmer said. "So it's tough to lose an athlete like that, a guy like that, and a draft pick.

"I mean, you only get so many second-round draft picks and when you only get one year out of them, it affects your team tremendously. It's just tough to lose the player that he was, and you really can't replace him."

Take a look, at least.


Nice Selective Quoting of the Article. This portion was rather critical:

The organization publicly and steadfastly supported Thurman while he went through treatment for alcohol abuse and served a two-year suspension from the NFL. When it concluded that the former second-round pick wasn't working hard enough to regain a spot on the team, it made him past tense, releasing him two days ago.

"We've been patient enough with Odell, and he's no longer here," Lewis said Wednesday, following the team's voluntary, on-field workout. "No big deal."


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a change of scenery after a 2 year suspension might help the kid, you never know. i'm all about second chances, and if koren robinson can get his and so cacn pac-man, i see no reason why odell thurman shouldn't.

i mentioned that he was not working hard enough, and the alchohol abuse was a given, hence the reason that this thread exists. nice nitpicking.
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i'm all about second chances, and if koren robinson can get his and so cacn pac-man, i see no reason why odell thurman shouldn't.


If he gets a "second chance" it will likely be with a team that is truly desperate. The potential costs are now too high. As I have noted, if he blows it again, it is no longer just the cost of his salary that our team will have to pay.
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i'm all about second chances, and if koren robinson can get his and so cacn pac-man, i see no reason why odell thurman shouldn't.


If he gets a "second chance" it will likely be with a team that is truly desperate. The potential costs are now too high. As I have noted, if he blows it again, it is no longer just the cost of his salary that our team will have to pay.


This is why Odell Thurman doesn't deserve another chance. He is a stupid idiot.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3423215

Former Cincinnati Bengals linebacker Odell Thurman is facing an indefinite suspension after violating the NFL's substance abuse policy for the second time in three seasons, according to a report on SI.com.

Thurman's representative, Safarrah Lawson, said he was unaware of the situation when contacted by ESPN.com Monday night. Thurman was released by the Bengals on May 19.

"As far as I know we're suppose to see some teams next week," Lawson said. "We've talked to some people and we got some visits set up. If something happened, it's a development that just unfolded. But I don't have any knowledge of it."

Lawson added that he couldn't confirm or deny the report. Usually players are notified of league violations before agents and representatives, and Lawson had yet to talk to Thurman once the report surfaced Monday night.

The process of Thurman searching for another team had been delayed in recent weeks because the linebacker was still grieving the recent death of his grandmother.

"I will tell you, the death in his family he has taken extremely hard, much harder than I would've even thought,'' Lawson said. "To lose the last remnant of his family [affected him]."

Thurman was reinstated on April 21 after a two-year suspension for violating the league's substance abuse and conduct policies. Less than a month later, the Bengals released him with coach Marvin Lewis saying, "we have not seen the right steps taken by him."

Thurman, a second-round draft pick from Georgia, showed promise as a rookie in 2005, when he led the team in tackles and led all NFL rookies with five interceptions. He was suspended for the first four games of the 2006 season after failing to show up for a drug test.

Commissioner Roger Goodell extended the suspension to a full season when Thurman was arrested for drunken driving; wide receiver Chris Henry -- who was also released by the Bengals -- was a passenger in the vehicle, but wasn't charged. Goodell later extended Thurman's suspension through the 2007 season as well, setting conditions for his return.
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