Vinny Sheds Some Light On FA

[SkinsFreak]

Thinking about it, it's sad we're even having a discussion about adding a safety... really sad.

If we sign or draft a decent CB, I'm still not opposed to the idea of having Springs share some time at SS with Doughty, as Gibbs previously mentioned. Not sure it will happen, but it's a thought anyway.

[CanesSkins26]

Thinking about it, it's sad we're even having a discussion about adding a safety... really sad.

If we sign or draft a decent CB, I'm still not opposed to the idea of having Springs share some time at SS with Doughty, as Gibbs previously mentioned. Not sure it will happen, but it's a thought anyway.

I could see that in 09 if he is still with the team, but not next season. We likely aren't going to add another starter so we'll probably need Springs and Smoot starting all season. Would be a smart way for Springs to extend his career in a few seasons though.

[SkinsFreak]

Thinking about it, it's sad we're even having a discussion about adding a safety... really sad.

If we sign or draft a decent CB, I'm still not opposed to the idea of having Springs share some time at SS with Doughty, as Gibbs previously mentioned. Not sure it will happen, but it's a thought anyway.

I could see that in 09 if he is still with the team, but not next season. We likely aren't going to add another starter so we'll probably need Springs and Smoot starting all season. Would be a smart way for Springs to extend his career in a few seasons though.

I said "share some time" with Doughty, and only if we bring in someone or when Rogers returns. Sharing... meaning on nickel and dime packages used on passing downs or on 3rd and longs. Springs is far better in coverage than Doughty. If no CB is brought in, then obviously Springs stays a CB full time, that's a no-brainer. Just for the record, this wasn't my idea, it was Gibbs'.

[VetSkinsFan]

We have a very good secondary as far as our starters are concerned. Doughty might not be ideal, but he showed some flashes last season and is good enough.

I agree that we need defensive line help, I've maintained that opinion for some time now. But I don't agree our secondary, and especially Doughty, are "good enough", and obviously, neither do the coaching staff, as they listed CB and SS as areas of need.

Smoot is pretty good, but not elite. We all know Rogers won't be 100% for quite a while. Springs is good, but injured quite often, is getting up there in age, and won't be here after this year. Landry is the real deal, but he's still basically a rookie.

Doughty? Come on. Some are getting carried away here. Yes, he made a few nice plays and a few nice tackles last year. But flashes? I beg to differ, and my game tapes don't lie. He ran a 4.65 at the combine and I seriously doubt he's faster now, years later and now that he's older. That means he can barely break a 4.7. That sucks for a DB. He was burned numerous times last year, even on the short crossing routes. He's decent on run support, I'll give him credit for that, but absolutely blows in coverage and is a major liability in that regard. Sorry, I like the dude, he's a nice guy, but he's barely average at best. He's getting the "Ramsey" treatment around here... meaning, his playability is artificially inflated because he's a nice guy. I still think he'll be the starter going into next season, as Vinny recently eluded to, but they'll look to strengthen that position somehow.

I still think they'll upgrade the d-line, no doubt, but there's going to be some emphasis applied to our secondary as well.

I agree. Flashes? Hardly. But I would say that it's not a position that we can fix this year. We have more pressing issues

Here's some stats on Doughty from Redkins.com http://www.redskins.com/team/profile.jsp?id=6784



Drafted by the Redskins in the sixth round (173rd overall) of the 2006 NFL Draft.

2007: Doughty played in 16 games, with six starts. He replaced the late Sean Taylor in the lineup down the stretch and recorded 49 tackles (27 solo) and a half-sack. He also played on special teams and recorded 16 tackles.


Doughty earned his first NFL start in Week 11 at Dallas. He recorded six tackles and one special teams tackle.

In Week 14 vs. Chicago, Doughty logged nine tackles and added a half-sack of QB Brian Griese.

In Week 15 vs. the Giants, he had a career-high 11 tackles, one pass defended and one special teams tackle.

In Week 17 vs. Dallas, he recorded five tackles, one pass deflection and one special teams tackle. He broke up a potential touchdown to Cowboys tight end Jason Witten in the end zone.

Doesn't look awful to me and I hard count a '06 draftee to now "years later." He was a 6th round draft pick that had very little experience prior to ST's death. Bring in some competition for Doughty and make him earn it. If he's that bad, he'll have enough rope to hang himself; he won't need the lynch mob he has here......

[CanesSkins26]

Thinking about it, it's sad we're even having a discussion about adding a safety... really sad.

If we sign or draft a decent CB, I'm still not opposed to the idea of having Springs share some time at SS with Doughty, as Gibbs previously mentioned. Not sure it will happen, but it's a thought anyway.

I could see that in 09 if he is still with the team, but not next season. We likely aren't going to add another starter so we'll probably need Springs and Smoot starting all season. Would be a smart way for Springs to extend his career in a few seasons though.

I said "share some time" with Doughty, and only if we bring in someone or when Rogers returns. Sharing... meaning on nickel and dime packages used on passing downs or on 3rd and longs. Springs is far better in coverage than Doughty. If no CB is brought in, then obviously Springs stays a CB full time, that's a no-brainer. Just for the record, this wasn't my idea, it was Gibbs'.

I wasn't trying to say it's a bad idea. I think it actually makes sense. Just not sure it's doable this season. Rod Woodson is a good example of a player that was able to extend his career and make the switch.

[SkinsFreak]

Doesn't look awful to me and I hard count a '06 draftee to now "years later." He was a 6th round draft pick that had very little experience prior to ST's death. Bring in some competition for Doughty and make him earn it. If he's that bad, he'll have enough rope to hang himself; he won't need the lynch mob he has here......

First of all, we aren't trying to "lynch" Doughty. As I've said numerous times, I like the guy and the coaches seem to as well. Second, the talk of adding a safety was started by the coaches, not by the fans here. Doughty has received recognition from the coaching staff and from folks around the league for his efforts and maturation on the field. Everyone knows his contributions were suddenly expedited in the wake of ST's tragic death.

Doughty isn’t a great safety but I think they’ll realize he’s solid and can do a lot of things. When you pair him with Landry, it’s a better than average pair of safeties. Landry is dynamic and Doughty is a physical presence. If I were them, I’d look at a young corner because you can never get enough of them.

Link

By the way... from the same story...

By John Keim
Warpath Insiders
Posted Feb 25, 2008


Lande, who spent three years as a scout for the Cleveland Browns, is the publisher of GM Jr., which produces an annual draft guide. He also contributes to the Sporting News.

Q: Does the extended coaching search put the Redskins behind in their draft preparation?

A: In all honesty, in many respects it probably helps. I’m of the opinion that unless you have coaches dedicated to watching film and evaluating players on film most of the time coaches don’t help the draft process. If they are dedicated they can be fantastic. Bruce Arians, Terry Robiskie were home runs. A lot of guys make decisions based on what they hear and how guys do in all-star games and they don’t watch game film to see how good they are. So I don’t think it’s a big negative that the Redskins did this late.

A response...

Well isn't that something? Here we have a former NFL scout who currently publishes what is apparently a well circulated draft guide all but admitting that coaches can do more harm than good in the draft process? Not merely that they can do more harm, actually, but rather that is the norm for coaches? That NFL level coaches are making the same base, emotional decisions about players that we the mighty fans do?

The great news is that this does take a bite out of the argument that the Redskins owed it to their draft board to end the coaching search early. I was certainly of the opinion that more preparation is better when it comes to the staff -- that will actually have to coach the individuals in question -- evaluating draft picks. But I guess that doesn't make much sense, because coaches are as likely as not to fudge up the entire procedure anyways.

[yupchagee]

We have a very good secondary as far as our starters are concerned. Doughty might not be ideal, but he showed some flashes last season and is good enough.

I agree that we need defensive line help, I've maintained that opinion for some time now. But I don't agree our secondary, and especially Doughty, are "good enough", and obviously, neither do the coaching staff, as they listed CB and SS as areas of need.

Smoot is pretty good, but not elite. We all know Rogers won't be 100% for quite a while. Springs is good, but injured quite often, is getting up there in age, and won't be here after this year. Landry is the real deal, but he's still basically a rookie.

Doughty? Come on. Some are getting carried away here. Yes, he made a few nice plays and a few nice tackles last year. But flashes? I beg to differ, and my game tapes don't lie. He ran a 4.65 at the combine and I seriously doubt he's faster now, years later and now that he's older. That means he can barely break a 4.7. That sucks for a DB. He was burned numerous times last year, even on the short crossing routes. He's decent on run support, I'll give him credit for that, but absolutely blows in coverage and is a major liability in that regard. Sorry, I like the dude, he's a nice guy, but he's barely average at best. He's getting the "Ramsey" treatment around here... meaning, his playability is artificially inflated because he's a nice guy. I still think he'll be the starter going into next season, as Vinny recently eluded to, but they'll look to strengthen that position somehow.

I still think they'll upgrade the d-line, no doubt, but there's going to be some emphasis applied to our secondary as well.

40 times are the most overused stat there is. What was Pat Fisher's 40 time?

[SkinsFreak]

40 times are the most overused stat there is. What was Pat Fisher's 40 time?

With the exception for skilled positions, such as WR's, RB's and DB's. Certainly you'll find an exception to every rule, I get that. I agree 40 times are irrelevant for o-line and d-line players. How often does a guard or tackle have to run 40 yards on any given play? If they did, there must have been something wrong to begin with, like a busted play. But known speed of skilled players is very much relevant. If a DB that runs a 4.7 gets one-on-one with a wide out that runs a 4.3, guess who wins that race to the endzone? Not a good match up.

[PulpExposure]

40 times are the most overused stat there is. What was Pat Fisher's 40 time?

With the exception for skilled positions, such as WR's, RB's and DB's. Certainly you'll find an exception to every rule, I get that. I agree 40 times are irrelevant for o-line and d-line players. How often does a guard or tackle have to run 40 yards on any given play? If they did, there must have been something wrong to begin with, like a busted play. But known speed of skilled players is very much relevant. If a DB that runs a 4.7 gets one-on-one with a wide out that runs a 4.3, guess who wins that race to the endzone? Not a good match up.

Jerry Rice's 40 time sucked. 4.7 iirc. Emmitt Smith's 40 time sucked also, but he managed to break plenty of runs.

Just saying there's a difference between running on a track, and running with pads on and carrying a football.

[SkinsFreak]

And Tom Brady ran a 15.23. I understand there are exceptions. I get that. But for evaluation purposes, it's relevant and it's a barometer, that's why they run it. If it wasn't important, then I can't imagine why all those coaches are there in the stands and on the sidelines with stop watches.

Edit to add... those exceptions are few among hundreds. A slow 40 time will cause your stock to drop and teams to pass on you. Teams want speed these days.

[SkinsJock]

40 times are the most overused stat there is. What was Pat Fisher's 40 time?

Wrong Not even a discussion

Loved Pat Fisher and a lot of the other greats with terrible "times" before they turned pro but fact is they did not have the combine then

Listen we all know these things are out of proportion BUT if the times meant "nothing" they wouldn't be doing it

give me a break - this is the NFL and nothing really makes sense it just has to be this way

[yupchagee]

40 times are the most overused stat there is. What was Pat Fisher's 40 time?

Wrong Not even a discussion

Loved Pat Fisher and a lot of the other greats with terrible "times" before they turned pro but fact is they did not have the combine then

Listen we all know these things are out of proportion BUT if the times meant "nothing" they wouldn't be doing it

give me a break - this is the NFL and nothing really makes sense it just has to be this way

So you are saying that it was OK for a player to be slow as long as speed wasn't measured, but now that it is measured, it's vitally important?

[admin]

The thread title is hilarious...

Vinny Sheds Some Light







Thanks.

How can Vinny shed any light when he's stuffed deep into the dark recesses of Monsieur Snyder's rectum?

[Bishop Hammer]

Seriously, color me surprised if we see restraint from the Redskins in free agency.

Maybe they did learn something from Gibbs. Eschew the big name signing for the one that will actually help you...

two years in a row I think, last year Fletch was the only big splash we did

Until I see otherwise, I am going to acredit the modest offseason shopping sprees to Joe Gibbs.

[yupchagee]

Seriously, color me surprised if we see restraint from the Redskins in free agency.

Maybe they did learn something from Gibbs. Eschew the big name signing for the one that will actually help you...

two years in a row I think, last year Fletch was the only big splash we did

Until I see otherwise, I am going to acredit the modest offseason shopping sprees to Joe Gibbs.

&/or cap limits.

[SkinsJock]

So you are saying that it was OK for a player to be slow as long as speed wasn't measured, but now that it is measured, it's vitally important?

I am not sure how you you can come to that conclusion I never said anything like that.

If speed is not a factor why measure it? Listen I think the combine is out of proportion on a lot of things BUT one thing that is important for certain positions (combine or not) is speed, fast players at certain positions are very desirable - BUT you need football skills too - speed like Darrel Green had was fantastic BUT without football skills you just have a Carl Lewis - great speed NO football skills

A lot of players coming out of college are not really good NFL players because they looked good at the combine but nobody bothers to measure the desire to play in the NFL - most just want the contract not the game that goes with the contract.



BTW - I can make up my own nonsense as evidenced by a lot of my posts

[SkinsFreak]

I know some won't like this because it's a positive analysis and outlook, but ESPN has never been all that inclined to offer praise for the Skins way of doing things, and perhaps justifiably so, but it appears some are taking note and recognizing a positive change in Snyder and his approach.

Snyder, Skins appear committed to new approach


By Pat Yasinskas
ESPN.com

Jim Zorn was talking about quarterback Jason Campbell the other day. The new coach of the Washington Redskins might as well have been talking about himself.

"I don't want Jason Campbell to feel like, 'Oh my gosh, if I make one mistake, I'm going to be pulled,''' Zorn said during the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis. "That's not the way to go into this. That's not the way to go into any camp and it's not the way to go into any football season.''

For a quarterback or a coach. Just ask Steve Spurrier, Marty Schottenheimer, Norv Turner and, to a lesser extent, Joe Gibbs. Since buying the Redskins in 1999, owner Daniel Snyder has had a hand in everything. He's been the George Steinbrenner of the NFL, trying to buy championships and burning through coaches.

But Snyder's hiring of the untested Zorn is a sign things are about to change. The Redskins are going to stand pat.

"It will be a shock to some, but I don't see us being a big player in free agency,'' said Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations. "I don't think Dan's plane's going to be fired up, ready to go. I just think it's going to be a quiet start of free agency for us.''

New Redskins coach Jim Zorn appears to have already earned the trust of owner Daniel Snyder. Quiet, although uncommon for Snyder and the Redskins, will be good. Gibbs, the one coach who had enough power to stand up to Snyder, retired after last season. But he left the Redskins as a playoff team with a roster to match.

In years past, Snyder might have looked at that roster and gone out and added some overpriced veterans to try to put the Redskins instantly into the Super Bowl. In years past, Snyder might have gone out and hired a big-name coach with big plans for change.

Hiring Zorn, who last worked as quarterbacks coach for the Seattle Seahawks, might give the impression that Snyder was looking for a puppet. Snyder's been accused of being a fantasy football player in the past, known for doing what he wants at the expense of his coaches and the team's long-term salary cap. That's led to tension and not much success.

But maybe the combination of Snyder, Cerrato and Zorn is just what the Redskins need. Maybe it's best to have an unknown coach who gets along with the owner and the guy who runs the front office than a big-name coach who doesn't.

The Redskins interviewed a bunch of bigger names before deciding on Zorn, who they first had hired as offensive coordinator.

"When we got done with the interview, Dan and I looked at each other and said, 'You know what? We'll probably have him for one year and, then, he'll be a head coach,''' Cerrato said. "After we would interview everybody, Dan and I would have these conversations afterwards and we would say, 'Jim was better than that' or 'We liked Jim compared to that.'''

For the first time in Snyder's tenure, it seems like the Redskins have a brain trust that's firmly on the same page. And, maybe, Snyder has learned from his past mistakes.

As Zorn spoke, it sure didn't sound like Snyder was pulling his strings. He's only been on the job for a few weeks, but Zorn has Gibbs' staff pretty much intact, a lot of talent and, most importantly, a plan.

The defense already is good and the offense, which will switch to a West Coast approach, has a lot of talent. Zorn said he plans to keep running back Clinton Portis on the field most of the time and use Ladell Betts as a complement. There's a solid tight end in Chris ey and Santana Moss is set at one wide receiver spot.

Zorn plans to shift the other receiver, Antwaan Randle El, into the slot and use him in a way that's similar to the way the Seahawks used Bobby Engram last season. The Redskins will look to the draft for a bigger receiver to play the other spot.

But, more than anything, the fate of the Redskins (and Zorn) will depend on Campbell. He's 26 and has made only 20 NFL starts. He showed some progress last season before going down with a late-season injury.

Zorn wasted no time in declaring Campbell the starter over potential free agent Todd Collins, who stepped in late last season and led the Redskins to the playoffs. But Collins, who the Redskins hope to re-sign, is 36. Campbell has much more upside and Zorn has big plans for him.

"I'm surprised how tall he is with how well he moves his feet,'' Zorn said. "I think that's the thing I'm going to work on the most with him, is just his mindset on moving better in the pocket. I don't want him to think about himself only as a drop-back QB. I want him to think of himself as a guy that can move as well.''

Campbell also needs some work in the passing game after throwing 12 touchdowns and 11 interceptions last season. But Zorn sees plenty of room for growth, and his experience as a quarterback mentor should help Campbell.

"I think he's cited that he's had seven offensive coordinators in the years he's played college and the pros,'' Zorn said. "I just say, 'That's the way it goes.' I can't change that. He can't change that. What we can do is not [dwell] on that. We can't use that as a reason he can't do something. He should be able to do a lot of things now. That's the way I look at it, you should be able to do everything now that you've had so many offensive coordinators."

Maybe that's also a lesson for Snyder and the rest of the Redskins. All the other coaches and the meddling from Snyder didn't produce a Super Bowl. Maybe Zorn, who's never called a play as a coach, and Campbell, who's never won a truly big game, are the guys to do it. Maybe all they need is a little time without someone looking over their shoulder

[SkinsJock]

I think that there are a few of us that have been thinking that Snyder will show that he's not the same as what a lot of fans both here and around the league think. Time will tell and especially with the costs still being paid for the mistakes in judgment by the team, no matter who made them!


I do not care if Cerrato finds nothing but "gems" this time around and we end up in the Super Bowl - Cerrato needs to be fired, and hopefully soon, for all the trouble he has been to this team. NOTHING makes up for that.

[1niksder]

I do not care if Cerrato finds nothing but "gems" this time around and we end up in the Super Bowl - Cerrato needs to be fired, and hopefully soon, for all the trouble he has been to this team. NOTHING makes up for that.

Marty fired Vinny and I think that's part of what got him fired. Once Marty was gone Mr. C was back. Until this is corrected he'll remain "the Danny"

[1niksder]

Redskins to Be Selective Shoppers on Open Market

By Jason La Canfora and Jason Reid
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, February 28, 2008; E08



During the past few days, Washington Redskins Executive Vice President Vinny Cerrato has delivered the same message to many agents, rival executives and members of the media. Unlike in most years of owner Daniel Snyder's regime, there are no plans for an immediate plunge into free agency, Cerrato said, and no intentions of entertaining a slew of would-be Redskins when the signing period begins at 12:01 a.m. tomorrow.

Coming off a playoff season, the Redskins say they are putting more of a priority on retaining draft choices, developing their young players and learning from their days of errant spending on big-name free agents. But even if the opening days of the free agency/trading period are indeed more tranquil than in years past, that will not preclude the team from exploring numerous options to procure talent as Jim Zorn enters his first season as an NFL head coach.

"We'll look at any option that can help us, that makes sense, to improve the Redskins," Cerrato said. "I don't see us being a big player in the first couple of days of free agency."

This is a shallow free agent pool, made even thinner by the preponderance of teams putting franchise tags on players. The Redskins also have limited salary cap space, though more could be created quickly by restructuring existing contracts.

"With the free agency this year, there's not as many guys out there that there have been in the past," Cerrato said. "Over 50 percent of the free agents out there played less than 20 percent of the time. There's only going to be maybe 70 guys out there that have started eight games or more.

"So it's not a big crop. A lot of guys are going to re-sign probably before Friday. So it's a very limited group of players. I think they'll be a lot of crazy money spent early and things will settle down after that, which is kind of normal."

Snyder and Cerrato covet Cincinnati wide receiver Chad Johnson, but the Bengals remain steadfast they will not deal him. Washington also has interest in free agent wide receiver D.J. Hackett, league sources said, but only at the right price. The New England Patriots' Randy Moss is the biggest name eligible for free agency, but several league sources said they would be shocked if he did not re-sign with the Patriots.

"To add another receiver would be something we would be looking to do just for depth-wise," Cerrato said. "You get skinny in a hurry if Santana [Moss] goes down and if Antwaan [Randle El] goes down. You get real inexperienced quickly."

Cornerback is an area of need as well, with the Redskins among the teams inquiring about Atlanta Falcons cornerback DeAngelo Hall, league sources said. However, they are not expected to be a front-runner for him. New England's Asante Samuel is expected to garner a huge deal worth $10 million per season, but the San Diego Chargers' Drayton Florence could fill the role of a third cornerback with Washington and would come at a fraction of that cost.

Defensive line also is an area of interest, but it could be a primary target in the draft. Cerrato has told several agents that he aims to bolster the pass rush, ideally from the interior of the line. The Redskins might talk to the New York Jets about defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson, who is on the trading block.

A year ago, the Redskins made a concerted push to acquire Chicago linebacker Lance Briggs, but a deal could not be reached. Briggs is a free agent now with little chance of re-signing with the Bears, but he is seeking a deal worth $20 million in guarantees and roughly $7 million per season.

Jets linebacker Jonathan Vilma is being shopped as well -- he's a player the Redskins rated very highly coming from the University of Miami -- but would have to move to outside linebacker to make sense for Washington (Vilma visited the Detroit Lions yesterday and could be dealt there shortly).

Washington also has depth needs at center, safety and fullback -- finding role players often is relegated until the second week of the free agent period -- and the club wants to re-sign backup quarterback Todd Collins as well. Collins is set to explore the market, league sources said, with Atlanta, St. Louis and Jacksonville expected to bid for him.

The Redskins have exchanged proposals with punter Derrick Frost. Washington also has expressed interest in retaining guard Jason Fabini, but he is expected to test the market. Linebacker Randall Godfrey and safety Pierson Prioleau also would be welcome back, but they, too, are inclined to hit the market and could land with former assistant head coach-defense Gregg Williams in Jacksonville.

The Redskins expect return specialist Rock Cartwright to attempt to land a contract worth at least $2 million guaranteed on the open market, team sources said, but would welcome him back at less than that. Third-string quarterback Mark Brunell is hoping to land a job as a primary backup somewhere, and if Collins departs, Brunell's chances of doing so here may increase.

Let's see what happens this weekend

[andyjens89]

I can't wait until we sign Randy Moss and have the Moss Bros as our WRs

[yupchagee]

So you are saying that it was OK for a player to be slow as long as speed wasn't measured, but now that it is measured, it's vitally important?

I am not sure how you you can come to that conclusion I never said anything like that.

If speed is not a factor why measure it? Listen I think the combine is out of proportion on a lot of things BUT one thing that is important for certain positions (combine or not) is speed, fast players at certain positions are very desirable - BUT you need football skills too - speed like Darrel Green had was fantastic BUT without football skills you just have a Carl Lewis - great speed NO football skills

A lot of players coming out of college are not really good NFL players because they looked good at the combine but nobody bothers to measure the desire to play in the NFL - most just want the contract not the game that goes with the contract.



BTW - I can make up my own nonsense as evidenced by a lot of my posts

I didn't say speed was not A factor, just that measured 40 yd times are much less important than a lot of people think. Doughty can play safety no matter what his 40 times is.

[SkinsJock]

So you are saying that it was OK for a player to be slow as long as speed wasn't measured, but now that it is measured, it's vitally important?

I didn't say speed was not A factor, just that measured 40 yd times are much less important than a lot of people think. Doughty can play safety no matter what his 40 times is.

No worries

Speed is a factor for some positions and for some of the talent scouts - I could care a less - I think there are a lot of factors that are not "measured" at the stupid combine that are a lot more important.



You did imply that I thought it "vitally important" and I never said or meant to imply that

BTW, I agree that Doughty can play safety and may in fact be there this year .... he's just not as good a safety as we would like

[Irn-Bru]

[Doughty]'s just not as good a safety as we would like

See the article on Roy Williams in the ATL forum for a fun comparison to SkinsJock's quote:

"He's a good football player, maybe not as good as he wants or we want, but he's a good player," said new Cowboys secondary coach Dave Campo, who was head coach of the team when Williams was a rookie in 2002.

[chiefhog44]

This will stir up some controversy, but what the heck. How about signing Pacman Jones to a one year deal? He'll be itching to prove his worth, it would give us some depth, and I bet he would sign for pretty cheap.