Winslow Disappoints

Uncle Buck · Post by **Uncle Buck** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:06 am

From Profootballtalk rumor mill:

The Washington Redskins, who are looking for reasons not to select Kellen Winslow, II, with the fifth overall pick in the draft given his decision to sign with the Poston brothers, found more ammo for their likely decision to shy away from the former Miami Hurricane earlier this week.

A league source tells us that Winslow's visit to the Redskins was a major disappointment.

Winslow, per the source, was late for meetings -- including his meeting with head coach Joe Gibbs. We're told that Winslow otherwise was unimpressive in his sessions with the powers-that-be.

This development will do little to prompt the Redskins to overlook Winslow's choice of the Postons as his agents. The Postons are on the outs with the 'Skins given their allegations that the team scuh-rewed linebacker LaVar Arrington out of $6.5 million in his December 2003 contract extension.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

redskinz4ever · Post by **redskinz4ever** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:16 am

winslow will be a probowl TE.but whos to say we can't get a TE with a later round pick who is just as good.REDSKINZ4EVER!!!

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:38 am

Winslow will be better than Shockey and just as much of a pain in the a off the field.

Seriously, I just don't see this type of personality fitting on a Joe Gibbs team. If you think about the guys on Gibb's superbowl teams there were very few ME ME ME type players. I'm not surprised at all that Winslow didn't impress him.

ArmyHog · Post by **ArmyHog** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:08 am

This guy is a loser as far as personality and maturity. I am sure you all remember one of his post game interviews where he just flew off the hook and lost any professional bearing he may have. As far as his "I am a soldier" theme or whatever he thinks he is---he is outside of his mind. I lost any respect for him with that. He wouldn't last a second as a "Soldier" with that piss poor attitude.

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:31 am

I like him as a player - but the Postons kill the possibility for me and Vinny :0). He's got plenty of talent. In the right system, he's going to be very good. But as he slides back in the draft - it may make a huge impact later. As for attitude, sometimes it comes with the territory as a young star. Maturity takes hold of poeple at different times and in different ways. It might not get him until his football career is over - but I think a couple years in the NFL will prove to be a positive for Winslow. The good thing is - I doubt he'll be in the NFC East.

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:33 am

He reminds me of this guy.....

over-hyped with an attitude.....

No Thanks, I'll pass.... Have a nice day!

ArmyHog · Post by **ArmyHog** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:38 am

BTP--you are on it once again. The Poston's already got one of our players crying the blues. All we need is another cry baby represented by them.

gibbsfan · Post by **gibbsfan** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:59 pm

joe gibbs wants guys with character,but kw is a character in his own right.but the way it,s lookin we might be lookin at sean taylor.so maybe sean taylor can introduce himself to kw sometime in the near future. and i don,t mean shaking hands either.more like see ya over the middle my friend.
but i still like trading down to get some dl help but if sean taylor is still there take him.besides a te will popup in the later rounds.then again :hmm:

i dunno.guess we will see a week from sunday.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:06 pm

HAHAHHAA. I forgot he was the nut on ESPN crying like a little girl. He's a pansy, "Im a soldier", lmao, Ur nothing but a big stupid guy playing a childs game. He's no soldier, they're over seas in IRAQ. I don't like his attitude. I still want TAYLOR!!!

skins#1fan · Post by **skins#1fan** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:22 pm

winslow is a stud! I think he would make the most overall difference out of anybody we could draft. With the brains that are on our coaching staff, winslow would be unstopable. I think we need a little spice here in dc and he would bring that. You cant get on a guy for on bad interview after a bad game.

Warmother · Post by **Warmother** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:10 am

We don't need Winslow. We don't need his attitude. We don't even need his talents. In Gibbs offense the TE and H-back are very important postions but the TE is a block 1st catch passes 2nd kind of guy. I doubt Don Warren ever caught 20 passes in a year while Gibbs was here. The H-back also blocks 1st but he is more likely to catch a pass, that being said Clint Didier never made a Pro Bowl and I don't think ever caught more than 50 passes. He would make big plays but usually it was a surprise pass on a 3rd or 4th and short.

The TE and H-back on a Gibbs team have to put personal accomplishments behind team needs. I don't think Winslow will do that. Give me Taylor.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:09 am

Warmother wrote:I doubt Don Warren ever caught 20 passes in a year while Gibbs was here.

Not only did he catch 20 passes in a season, he did it 5 times in a row (3 under Gibbs) then he went on do catch 20 in 86, but he came darned close in 84.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... rrDo00.htm

Still, if we had Winslow, he'd be used to the best of his abilities, and that means catching passes and running over linebackers.

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:34 am

Skinsfan55 wrote:
Warmother wrote:I doubt Don Warren ever caught 20 passes in a year while Gibbs was here.

Not only did he catch 20 passes in a season, he did it 5 times in a row (3 under Gibbs) then he went on do catch 20 in 86, but he came darned close in 84.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... rrDo00.htm

Still, if we had Winslow, he'd be used to the best of his abilities, and that means catching passes and running over linebackers.

I think Warmother was saying "20" as a figure of speech.... Of course there was a couple of years where Donnie barely got over 20 catches..... but he never had Tony Gonzalez type years posting 70 plus catches..... Your expecting Winslow to get Tony Gonzalez type numbers....and Warmother is saying that he's not gonna get those numbers in Gibbs Offense.....frankly, I agree with him..... Draft Taylor.... we have enough offensive fire power to win....

Warmother · Post by **Warmother** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:38 pm

Thank You Bringthepain I couldn't have said it better Myself.