Sean Taylor....... Ring of Fame?

Californiaskin · Post by **Californiaskin** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:22 pm

Do you guys think theyll put ST in the ring of honer in the stadium this weekend and retire #21? I think it should be done. Any hints towards that that anyone knows?

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:20 pm

I have no idea if they will do it or not but I think that they definitely should put Sean in the Ring of Honor and also retire the #21.

Californiaskin · Post by **Californiaskin** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:08 am

I cant really recall the last that went in there was it riggins when he ran out geared up a few years back? If not that and #28 should be in there. And now sean for sure.

I guess its hard to get your # retired as a skin. Is it something that has to be voted on or can Dan just decide (id think the latter)
Seems like we're always playing someone whos doing restiring numbers before the game or at halftime and it fires them up.
Remeber the whole Wellington Mara bit afew years back......I thought freking Tiki was going to rush for 400

LOSTHOG · Post by **LOSTHOG** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:11 am

the number will not be retired, maybe not used again but not retired. I think they will hold off on the whole Ring of Fame until probably opening day next year. The family needs to be a part of the ceremony and there is no way they could feel up to it already.

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:33 am

Until they start retiring numbers other than 33, 21 shouldn't be.

Certainly, the situation raises a whole different set of circumstances but I'm not convinced he was THAT good.

SKINFAN · Post by **SKINFAN** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:51 am

I'd rather they put a statue @ the entrance of Redskin park.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:53 am

He definitely should be on the ring of fame but to retire his number doesn't seem right.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:35 am

Apparently his name is already in the ring. They are talking about it on Outside the Lines on ESPN this morning. They also said the 'Skins are dedicating this game to Sean, want to play like he did, and are going to take it to the Bills today to win the game for him.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:11 am

Jurgensen's number is not retired. Cliff Battle's number is not retired. Charlie Taylor's number is not retired. Eddie Labaron's number is not retired.D. Green's number is not retired. Sam Huff's number is not retired. Gene Brito's number is not retired. K Houston's number is not retired. Pat Fischer's number is not retired. Bobby Mitchell's number is not retired. Lenny Haus' number is not retired. Jerry Smith's number is not retired. Larry Brown's number is not retired. John Riggins' number is not retired. Art Monk's number is not retired. Dave Butz's number is not retired. Chris Hanburger's number is not retired. Charles Mann's number is not retired. Mike Bass' number is not retired. Brian Mitchell's number is not retired. Gary Clark's number is not retired. Dexter Manley's number is not retired. Russ Grimm's number is not retired. Joe Jacoby's number is not retired. Diron Talbert's number is not retired. Monte Coleman's number is not retired.

I could continue, but, ya'll probably see the pattern.

The number will not be retired.

Sammy Baugh's #33 IS retired. It's the only one.

Baugh was, arguably, the best all around player to have ever hit the field.
He played QB and Safety, and set the standard for both of those positions. He was, also, the greatest punter in the history of the game, with career records that STILL STAND, after 50 years.

He played all 3 positions, but would have gone into the hall even if he had played only QB, or only Safety, or only punter.

That is a hard set of standards to match.

As much as I loved Sean Taylor as a player, he was not yet an immortal when he died.

His name will be in the ring of fame, because it belongs.

NC43Hog · Post by **NC43Hog** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:42 am

All you had to say was "Larry Brown's number is not retired". :wink:

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:05 pm

Check your PM's, Countertrey.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:37 pm

I would put him in, no doubt.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:01 pm

The Hogster wrote:I would put him in, no doubt.

As I posted earlier in this thread, he's already there.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:27 pm

JSPB22 wrote:They also said the 'Skins are dedicating this game to Sean, want to play like he did, and are going to take it to the Bills today to win the game for him.

Yeah they sure played like they cared about him today.

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:35 pm

JSPB22 wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I would put him in, no doubt.

As I posted earlier in this thread, he's already there.

I was half-begging for ST's spirit to swoop down and guide that last FG just a bit off-target.

*sigh*

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:02 pm

PulpExposure wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:They also said the 'Skins are dedicating this game to Sean, want to play like he did, and are going to take it to the Bills today to win the game for him.

Yeah they sure played like they cared about him today.

pathetic post. I'm surprised they played as well as they did. Thursday won't be much better.

Folks around here need a hefty dose of humanity.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:29 pm

JSPB22 wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I would put him in, no doubt.

As I posted earlier in this thread, he's already there.

It's not yet.

What was there was "21 Sean Taylor" with a black ribbon on each side taking the place of a lit up advertisment.

I assume and hope he will be put in the Ring of Fame prior to the first home game of next season.

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:30 pm

Countertrey wrote:
PulpExposure wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:They also said the 'Skins are dedicating this game to Sean, want to play like he did, and are going to take it to the Bills today to win the game for him.

Yeah they sure played like they cared about him today.

pathetic post. I'm surprised they played as well as they did. Thursday won't be much better.

Folks around here need a hefty dose of humanity.

preach on brother, preach on!

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:32 pm

Countertrey wrote:
PulpExposure wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:They also said the 'Skins are dedicating this game to Sean, want to play like he did, and are going to take it to the Bills today to win the game for him.

Yeah they sure played like they cared about him today.

pathetic post. I'm surprised they played as well as they did. Thursday won't be much better.

Folks around here need a hefty dose of humanity.

Unfortunately, they will only learn if and when the PAIN of losing somebody hits close at home. Too late in this case.

I saw Clinton Portis cry hard at the end of the game. I saw Joe as decomposed as he has ever been and some of these people come to tell us that they did not get their candy today, they were not entertained sufficiently today, they were not given a win.

The word HUMANITY is too imcomprehensible for them CT, way too much.

SKINFAN · Post by **SKINFAN** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:34 pm

This Game showed what heart is, they played thru a very difficult, and emotional time. I really wish they won, but this is all the offense can muster. the Defense played their hearts out, not allowing a TD. CP tried what he can, but the line couldn't break him free. I did not see the game, I was on the NFL network watching the play by play. But this is nothing new, the offense always bog down at the redzone, can't get a rythmn etc. etc. This team was emotionally spent coming into this game, the coaches should've done a better job in managing the game, I see this week in week out. A change is needed, We have spent all season waiting to be surprised with the final product of this year, but I'm afraid we are looking at it. This team (offense) is not working, either change personnel, change philosophy, or change coaches... Something needs to be changed.

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:40 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
PulpExposure wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:They also said the 'Skins are dedicating this game to Sean, want to play like he did, and are going to take it to the Bills today to win the game for him.

Yeah they sure played like they cared about him today.

pathetic post. I'm surprised they played as well as they did. Thursday won't be much better.

Folks around here need a hefty dose of humanity.

Unfortunately, they will only learn if and when the PAIN of losing somebody hits close at home. Too late in this case.

I saw Clinton Portis cry hard at the end of the game. I saw Joe as decomposed as he has ever been and some of these people come to tell us that they did not get their candy today, they were not entertained sufficiently today, they were not given a win.

The word HUMANITY is too imcomprehensible for them CT, way too much.

word up brother. i was happy to see clinton today. i was happy to see joe today.

today, this is what i am thankful for, and for those that can't appreciate that, i pity you.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:02 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
PulpExposure wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:They also said the 'Skins are dedicating this game to Sean, want to play like he did, and are going to take it to the Bills today to win the game for him.

Yeah they sure played like they cared about him today.

pathetic post. I'm surprised they played as well as they did. Thursday won't be much better.

Folks around here need a hefty dose of humanity.

Unfortunately, they will only learn if and when the PAIN of losing somebody hits close at home. Too late in this case.

Judge me not, since you have no idea what I've been through. When 19, my best friend was murdered in his house. I've been through something quite similar.

What my post meant is simply this.

If the Redskins came out inspired, or totally uninspired, than that'd be completely acceptable.

However, they came out and played exactly as they have been playing all year. I.e., they played down to the level of their opponent, and lost a game they were winning.

I really can't see how they can say they played for Sean Taylor when their effort level wasn't any different (more effort or less effort, it doesn't matter) than it was when he was alive.

I didn't care if we won or lost this game today. To me, it's just a game, and in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter.

But to say you're going to dedicate your play in the game to your fallen friend and comrade, and then play like you don't care? Please. That's what makes me sick.

I saw Clinton Portis cry hard at the end of the game. I saw Joe as decomposed as he has ever been and some of these people come to tell us that they did not get their candy today, they were not entertained sufficiently today, they were not given a win.

The word HUMANITY is too imcomprehensible for them CT, way too much.

You read way too much into my one line post if you think I believe any of your specious drivel I highlighted.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:26 pm

But to say you're going to dedicate your play in the game to your fallen friend and comrade, and then play like you don't care?

If Fred Smoot played every game like he did today, he would be on his way to the Hall of Fame. For you to watch him play like his heart was on fire, the game of his life, and then make the above blanket statement is just sad.

There were others. Sometimes, emotion just doesn't translate into team play.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:28 pm

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:37 pm

Countertrey wrote:
But to say you're going to dedicate your play in the game to your fallen friend and comrade, and then play like you don't care?

If Fred Smoot played every game like he did today, he would be on his way to the Hall of Fame. For you to watch him play like his heart was on fire, the game of his life, and then make the above blanket statement is just sad.

There were others. Sometimes, emotion just doesn't translate into team play.

Fred Smoot and Philip Daniels, and I'd even include Santana Moss, Jason Campbell and Clinton Portis, were the exceptions. They all played very hard.