Gibbs out, Cowher in?

Smithian · Post by **Smithian** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:17 pm

Please save us from the futility.

Englands Team · Post by **Englands Team** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:19 pm

When your head coach does not know the rules you have a problem!!!!!!!

redskindave · Post by **redskindave** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:59 pm

I would love to see Cowher coaching us, We need a change, Our coaching staff sucks!

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:01 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cowher

Bill Cowher has told numerous sources that, assuming Joe Gibbs retires at the end of the season, he would love to become the next head coach of the Washington Redskins.

Problem is, Gregg Williams would quit, but maybe we need a whole new staff. He could get Russ Grimm to come back.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:03 pm

Yeah, it's time. Gibbs deserved the benefit of the doubt, but it's clear that this staff isn't getting the job done.

If we can land Cowher, that would be great. But even if he isn't available, the Redskins need to consider a change. Russ Grimm would be a fine option.

Skinsfan55 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cowher

Bill Cowher has told numerous sources that, assuming Joe Gibbs retires at the end of the season, he would love to become the next head coach of the Washington Redskins.

A Wikipedia entry isn't going to cut it - is there any real evidence that Cowher would prefer Washington over any of the other coaching vacancies?

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:08 pm

Search google for "Bill Cowher Redskins"

Lot of smoke there.

Tacoma Redskin · Post by **Tacoma Redskin** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:09 pm

I'd rather have Marty but Snyder burned that bridge. Cowher would be a great choice though.

Mursilis · Post by **Mursilis** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:09 pm

Steve Spurrier III wrote:Yeah, it's time. Gibbs deserved the benefit of the doubt, but it's clear that this staff isn't getting the job done.

If we can land Cowher, that would be great. But even if he isn't available, the Redskins need to consider a change. Russ Grimm would be a fine option.

Skinsfan55 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cowher

Bill Cowher has told numerous sources that, assuming Joe Gibbs retires at the end of the season, he would love to become the next head coach of the Washington Redskins.

A Wikipedia entry isn't going to cut it - is there any real evidence that Cowher would prefer Washington over any of the other coaching vacancies?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

From what I've read, a big part of the reason he left Pittsburgh (which isn't a bad coaching job - good town, and the management is very patient with coaches) is because of the money. Pittsburgh isn't known for paying a lot, but we are.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:14 pm

Some of the best head coaches are guys who failed as head coaches before, but learned a lot.

Bill Cowher is awesome, and young enough, but Gregg Williams fits the profile of great coordinator, failed head coach, great coordinator again.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:20 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:Lot of smoke there.

I was looking for fire.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:22 pm

Mursilis wrote:
Steve Spurrier III wrote:Yeah, it's time. Gibbs deserved the benefit of the doubt, but it's clear that this staff isn't getting the job done.

If we can land Cowher, that would be great. But even if he isn't available, the Redskins need to consider a change. Russ Grimm would be a fine option.

Skinsfan55 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cowher

Bill Cowher has told numerous sources that, assuming Joe Gibbs retires at the end of the season, he would love to become the next head coach of the Washington Redskins.

A Wikipedia entry isn't going to cut it - is there any real evidence that Cowher would prefer Washington over any of the other coaching vacancies?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

From what I've read, a big part of the reason he left Pittsburgh (which isn't a bad coaching job - good town, and the management is very patient with coaches) is because of the money. Pittsburgh isn't known for paying a lot, but we are.

Yeah, he likes Dan Snyder's money.

I don't want Cowher. Not because he isn't a great coach (he is), but because he's a mercenary.

Bring in Russ Grimm and let him mold the team that he wants.

Champsturf · Post by **Champsturf** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:23 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:Some of the best head coaches are guys who failed as head coaches before, but learned a lot.

Bill Cowher is awesome, and young enough, but Gregg Williams fits the profile of great coordinator, failed head coach, great coordinator again.

I'm hoping Gibbs hasn't taught Williams how to manage a clock.

grampi · Post by **grampi** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:42 pm

Sounds good to me. It couldn't be any worse than what we have now.

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:45 pm

grampi wrote:Sounds good to me. It couldn't be any worse than what we have now.

gibbs out, me in.... couldn't be any worse than we have now.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:54 pm

Time for solidarity guys.

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 7e7e84584e

Wise up! :evil:

NC43Hog · Post by **NC43Hog** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:22 pm

Let's keep this to one post.

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25585[/list]

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:26 pm

I don't feel Cowher will coach again.

SkinFan63 · Post by **SkinFan63** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:24 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cowher

Bill Cowher has told numerous sources that, assuming Joe Gibbs retires at the end of the season, he would love to become the next head coach of the Washington Redskins.

Problem is, Gregg Williams would quit, but maybe we need a whole new staff. He could get Russ Grimm to come back.

Who cares about Gregg Williams?
He sucks and our fefense sucks so send him packing!

mastdark81 · Post by **mastdark81** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:16 pm

redskindave wrote:I would love to see Cowher coaching us, We need a change, Our coaching staff sucks!

You know its real easy to say fire someone but I don't think Cowher is the answer. How many coaches have won two Super Bowls with two different teams, how many coaches who have retired have came back and even gotten back to the playoffs? Not many at all. Maybe he can change the norm...but

With Cowher your getting a good coach but with the money Dan Snyder will pay for him I believe even his hunger to win would be gone. We all talk about the players that we overpay for and underperform, well we do the same for coaches and it have all ended in the same result.

Its time to grow our Redskins of players and coaches, build teams for the future and not the present because it is not working.

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:22 pm

You all disgust me, it's not JG's fault our pro-bowl safety was shot dead this week and coincidentally buffalo burned our secondary down the middle of the field in a 1 min drill to set up a field goal. If ST was on the field we win this game and if he was at the last two we probably win those and sit at 8-4. Joe Gibbs is the best football coach we could ever hope for, how quickly you forget where we we've been without him. To date we are only a few special players away from SB contention specifically a safety, a DE, some OL help and a solid WR.

MEZZSKIN · Post by **MEZZSKIN** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:27 pm

hey gibbs 4life let me piggyback you with you my previous email....some people need to grow up

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!!!!.....JESUS CHRIST!....This team hasnt even buried its defense leader yet and were judging there play or coaching???

HAS ANYONE HERE LOST A PARENT , FRIEND, CHILD, or FRIEND?....Did your work decide your job 5 days later?????

BE PROUD!!...BE proud to be Redskin fan...that has loyal and loving fan base...BE PROUD!....we as a team, as a franchise have shown class humilty , dignity and perserverance in time of tragedy...

THEY CAME TO PLAY! They were perepared!!!........They wore the colors proudly today.......There is no manuel on how to get thru the rest of the season for this team...there is no baraometer since this is unprecedented in NFL history...

THIS IS LIFE!!!...not football....if you were sitting there and expecting wins playoffs etc...then examine your own life that is so devoid you need bunch of men mourning and grieving at such an early stage that it hasnt EVEN BURIED ITS TEAMMATE YET...to make you happy ....ITS REPULSIVE!....im sorry...

BE PROUD!!!.....THEY CRIED MONDAY......WE ALL CRIED TUESDAY..WE CRIED WEDNESDAY...WE CRIED THURSADY...WE CRIED FRIDAY YESTERDAY WE WERE JUST NUMB IN ANTICIPATION

WE ALL CRIED TODAY!!!.....THEY EVEN CRIED DURING THE GAME!!!!

WE AS A FRANCHISE ARE-----GRIEVING!!!!...

WE LOST GET OVER IT.......GROW UP...AND PUT YOUR PERSEPECTIVES IN ORDER...

In the great words of pete kendall after the game....." getting over a tough loss is one thing but burying a teammte a 24 year old man is another and its lights years harder"...

be proud to be redskin fan today.....Its easy to be fan when your 10-1 or 9-2....now is the time to show your colors with pride!!!!..I love that team...they fanatstic bunch of individuals giong thru unbelievable personal tragedy..

ME???? I choose to stand behind them......I pray for them......and I admire them.
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CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:28 pm

Joe Gibbs is the best football coach we could ever hope for, how quickly you forget where we we've been without him.

And where exactly has he gotten us in his second tenure? A losing record, his worst season ever, and his worst single game loss. Not to mention he has a track record of boneheaded coaching decisions.....how in the world do you not know that timeout rule? Everyone I watched the game with knew that rule, and yet a $5 million a year coach doesn't?? Give me a break. On top of that, we lost either our 13th or 14th game after leading at the half, easily the worst such mark in the NFL. Yes Gibbs is a good guy and I'm glad that he is here to help the team through the Sean Taylor tragedy, but I really hope that he retires after this season. I can't take much more of this awful coaching.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:29 pm

Gibbs4Life wrote:You all disgust me, it's not JG's fault our pro-bowl safety was shot dead this week and coincidentally buffalo burned our secondary down the middle of the field in a 1 min drill to set up a field goal.

Please. That would be fine if today's game wasn't a carbon copy of nearly every loss we've had in the last two seasons. We build a 9-13 point lead, immediately clam up on offense, and watch as the other team takes over.

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:04 pm

Please. That would be fine if

Your name is Steve S the third enough said. If we have any brains we'll do whatever it takes to keep Gibbs and let him right this ship. REMEMBER this year is the first season we haven't gone through Brunell pergatory, next year will be better, let's lose all of the rest our games and get a top 5 pick.

Smithian · Post by **Smithian** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:12 pm

Mark Brunell purgatory?

That is Gibbs's fault. Gibbs has some sick pleasure in watching Brunell play. Gibbs threw our old franchise QB to the curb, played Brunell in 2004. Played Ramsey for a half, saw him get injured, never gave him another chance. Played Brunell over Campbell most of last year.

Brunell is Gibbs's fault, bud. Gibbs has had four years. Even before Sean's death, we had lost three straight games.

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