THE WILD CARD THREAD

Talk about the Washington Football Team here. Do you bleed burgundy and gold?
User avatar
die cowboys die
Hog
Posts: 2115
youtube meble na wymiar Warszawa
Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:37 pm
Location: Boston, MA

Post by die cowboys die »

is everyone prepared to be shocked? i am about to say something optimistic. :shock:


ok, i am still all too aware that between the combination of gibbsian timid decision-making/poor game management and our ridiculous slew of injuries, we could very well lose most of our upcoming games. throw in a few [more] inexcusably horrendous calls by refs and put 'em at a few monumentally important junctures in the games, and who knows we could lose ALL the rest of our games. i won't be surprised at all to miss the playoffs.

but i have a weird feeling we will make the playoffs. and i have an even weirder, but much firmer feeling, that if we do, we will go to the superbowl.


why am i optimistic? jason campbell, that's why. my greatest hopes for him were that he would develop into a prototypical "gibbs" quarterback, with the added ability to scramble well. you know, manage the game efficiently, execute the play-action game to perfection, and occasionally take the lead in a pinch.

but i feel like we are starting to see a QB who's abilities include all that but also extend far beyond it. we're seeing a QB who can be perfectly comfortable, and even thrive if the game is put firmly and directly in his hands, who can take over a game instead of just manage it. who can call his own plays in a no-huddle and throw quick, precise passes off of quick, smart reads, hit receivers in stride right on the sideline just past the outstretched arms of a defender with a laser on a 20 yard out, loft a perfect touch pass a foot over the LBs hand to hit the receiver before he reaches the level of the safeties, avoid a pass rush and throw a perfect "thread-the-needle" TD pass to a WR in stride in the back corner of the endzone, through traffic, while on the run and about to get pasted by a blitzing defender. etc etc etc. and he has a great, GREAT attitude, a yearning for greatness that comes out of love of competition, rather than love of his own ego or thirst for "celebrity".

and why shouldn't we be able to make the superbowl? who is it we're supposed to be so afraid of, the endlessly touted "NFC Elite"-- Dallas?? friends, if sean taylor plays that game, not only is there literally no chance whatsoever dallas wins that game, i do not even believe it would have been close. we were holding them in check completely until the Blown Coverage Hat Trick. if they try to go deep to owens that many times with ST back there, TO would be leaving the game on a stretcher.

so who else is there. Green Bay? uh, you mean the Green Bay that we would have beaten by 3 or 4 touchdowns if we hadn't let the ball squirt right through our hands 437 times total, between all the dropped passes and fumbles?
the green bay that was only able to barely edge us out despite all of that because we went so low on the offensive line depth chart we had to clone our injured linemen, grow the clone in a test-tube on the sideline, and send him into the game, only to watch him get injured 3 plays later, and have to grow a new clone, going through a total of 13 different clones throughout the course of the game? and then they ran out of clone-making materials so joe bugel himself actually had to suit up and play right tackle the last few plays?
the green bay that did next to NOTHING against us on offense, and not because they kept dropping it, but because we simply kept stopping them? (sean taylor probably dropped more balls favre threw than his own receivers did).

ok, the only other NFC team that anyone even THINKS might be any good is the giants. you know, the ones we squandered a 14 point lead against because gibbs switched into the "Prevent Offense" for the entire 2nd half until the very end, when campbell took over in the no-huddle and we magically moved the ball right down to the goal-line? well, gibbs seems to have finally gotten the idea, and turned campbell loose (for the most part).
the fact is, not only is campbell already BETTER than eli now, it's not even close. eli is not an ounce better than he was all of last year, and that wasn't even THAT much better than he was in '05 to begin with.
don't get me wrong, eli is pretty good- but he has reached his peak, and still has some serious flaws. campbell is already better, and he is just getting started. expect to see many gunslinger duels between campbell and eli over the next 10 years, and expect to see eli be embarassed in the majority of them. that series of embarassments will begin on December 16th in front of the whole nation on Sunday Night Football.

my bottom line points are:

a) campbell is really good, yay
2) with the exception of the patriots game, the results of all our games have been almost entirely decided by the play of the redskins themselves. the opponents have been nearly irrelevant. we have decided nearly unilaterally who would lose, who would win. no opponent has beaten us, has "done" anything to beat us. we have beaten ourselves. the first step to correcting that has been made- letting campbell run a legitimate NFL offense.

if we make a few more corrections, and get a couple healthy players back (taylor obviously, but don't forget about randy thomas. i know O-Line is all about chemistry, but i have a hard time believing randy thomas isn't a huge upgrade over fabini no matter what, regardless of how fabini's been playing recently. simply because randy thomas is outstanding)...
if we can correct things enough to MAKE the playoffs, we will get to the superbowl.

are we ready to win it yet? no, i don't see us beating the AFC team (which, by the way, will be the colts if they can get healthy by playoff time. their game against the patriots a few weeks ago would not even have been particularly close if manning had all his receivers/linemen playing and healthy. let's also not forget that the odds of NE making it through the rest of the year without any injury to at least ONE of their vaunted WRs or linemen is probably simply mathematically impossible. the moment they go from 3 great WRs to 2, it will reduce their potency by FAR more than 1/3. Darth Brady will no longer be able to simply look at the defense and easily decide PRE-SNAP who he is going to throw the ball to based on which one of the receivers has been given the Utterly Ridiculous Mismatch by the defense [please don't tell me you've been fooled by all the hype about brady's "amazing quick decision-making"-- take a look at the vast majority of his plays, he has his mind made up before he even gets the ball. if he even bothers to look anywhere else first, it is just an obligatory "looking off the defender". so no, don't count me among those impressed by his "magical season" of Having 40 Seconds to Recognize the Utterly Ridiculous Mismatch Pre-Snap Instead of Having to Go Through Actual Progressions and Make a Decision in 2.7 Seconds, and Lobbing an Underthrown Pass into Double-or-Triple Coverage on Randy Moss and Having Him Shove Two of the Defenders to the Ground and Jumping up to Catch the Ball Over the Other One's Head Because He is Eleven Feet Tall.)

anyways... there would be no shame in losing the AFC team... the AFC elite are teams that have been growing together for years and years, have had tons of playoff and championship experience. they have superstar QBs in the prime of their careers.

so anyways i am feeling really good about us right now. even if we totally blow it, as long as campbell keeps looking like he's looked the past couple games, i know we'll be set for many years to come.
Chris Luva Luva
---
---
Posts: 18887
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:55 pm
Location: AJT
Contact:

Post by Chris Luva Luva »

Steve Spurrier III wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:1. I was asked to express how I felt.


No, you interjected yourself into this discussion with:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Playoffs? :lol: :lol: :lol:


That's an obvious reference to Jim Mora and his infamous 2001 speech in which he expresses his shock at the mere suggestion of the Colts making the postseason. Don't pretend you that you didn't mock the Redskins ability to make the playoffs.


I had no intention to say anything else in this thread aside from laughing. Fios asked for an explanation which you don't like. Like I said before, complain to him if you don't like what I'm talking about it.

Who is pretending? :lol: :lol: That was fully my intention. Where did I backtrack and state otherwise? It's not the thought of us being able to make it into the playoffs that I find funny. It's the meaning that it has that I find amusing. It's the fact that we don't put together consecutive winning seasons that I find amusing. Going to the playoffs and holding up that trophy doesn't excite me. Plenty of "nobody" teams makes it into the playoffs. Nobody aside from us remebers that we went in 2005. This team needs a trophy. Getting into the playoffs cus another team failed or did something isn't all that great, it's luck. Control your own destiny.

But I guess if you read my post you would have realized that. Maybe if you read it you would have noticed that I was being serious and not just complaining. How I feel is how I feel and like I said before I could not careless how you feel about that.

Now you can go and say how much Skin pride and faith you have and blah blah blah blah. Congrats, I hope you get your Redskin faith check in the mail before I get mine. I've seen the win/loss column and I've grown accusomted to what to expect.

If Gibbs/Snyder wants to change that in this young fanbase, win some *insert hate* games and get over .500.

Steve Spurrier III wrote:doesn't change that fact that this is a thread about the 2007 team's wild card chances. This isn't a thread about the long-term future of the team. But start one - it's a fantastic, worthy topic that I'd be happy to participate in.


Long term? The furthest I've spoken of is 2008 which is when I think we'll go to the SP. How is this seasons succees not relevant to a jump into serious contention next year?

Steve Spurrier III wrote:I just don't agree at all. Was 1972 a complete failure? Northing came of that. Not a single player of on the 1972 team was around in 1982. Does it count for nothing? There's not really a right or wrong answer here, but to me, 1972 mattered, and still matters. Was 2005 ultimately a failure? Sure. But it still was memorable.

I don't care about 1972. 1972 isn't doing anything for me. The same way my son will not care about 2005 whenever he gets here.


Montana Redskin wrote:All we got in 3.5 yrs is inconsistency, halftime blows, one week a bad defense, next week good d, bad o, no running game, next week good running game, etc....etc...

same ol' same ol' laughable losers. just a .500 team.


I feel that there has been some growth and improvement.
The road to the number 1 pick gaining speed!
User avatar
BnGhog
Hog
Posts: 1553
Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:23 pm
Location: Danville VA

Post by BnGhog »

Chris Luva Luva wrote: Point blank, anything short of a ring is failure...


Is this a Smooot quote? :lol:


I Agree with a lot of what CLL is saying. The only thing we got out of our playoff run in 05, was too much cockyness(sp?) which lead to a bad start the next year. Point blank.

Although, it is much closer to our goal of winning a SB. You said yourself you enjoyed the game against the pukes even though we lost, "because it showed progress". Most of would enjoy seeing a playoff berth because it would should show improvement, and we are the same level as the other guys who didn't make it. Yes, losing in the playoffs sucks, but its closer to a SB than some others will reach.

I agree with you also, about this team not having the identity.

I seems, Gibbs is testing these guys. Notice how many times we tried to run the ball in the endzone against the Eagles. Then remember that Portis, openly stated that he wanted the game on his shoulders. Gibbs gave it a try. Now, against the pukes, he put the game in JC's hands.

Both, ended in a loss. We have to put the game on Both. Or I should say we need to put the game in the hands of the TEAM. We have to use all our playmakers. We can't go into the game and say "we let Portis win it for us", Or Campbell, or Sellers, or Moss. We have to use all our tools at any time. They aren't expecting Sellers to run somone over on 1st and ten. They aren't expecting us to deep on 2nd and 3. We just have to mix it up more.
I firmly believe the Patriots are the antichrist.
langleyparkjoe
**LPJ**
**LPJ**
Posts: 6714
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:12 am
Location: Langley Park, MD *Tick Tock*
Contact:

Post by langleyparkjoe »

We Will Make It!!! Lets pray we get to the playoffs and then hopefully we'll get that extra umpfh, dat we need!!

GO SKINS !!! CRUSH DA BAMMA BUX !!!
RayNAustin
Hog
Posts: 2370
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:56 am

Post by RayNAustin »

This is the way I see it. The Dallas game was (even the loss) a springboard game for this team. Prior to the Cowboys, the only other real contenders we played were NE and GB. We got whupped by NE badly, but should have won the GB game. So, this team really didn't know how good or bad it was until Sunday. But now, they know they can beat the Cowboys....NFC leaders, and that confidence will continue to grow, just as Campbell's confidence will.

Arguably, going in, the Cowboys (it kills me to say this) were the best in the NFC. We could have, and should have won this game...in Dallas, save for missing Taylor...which was really the difference in the game. With taylor back there, TO might not have gotten 2 TD's, much less 4. We could have not only won the game, but could have beaten Dallas convincingly. So, who really is the best in the NFC??

I say that the NFC ranking is Cowboys, Redskins, NYG, and GB in that order, with very little separating the bunch, ability wise. So it is wide open in the NFC right now.

I can see both the Redskins and Giants as Wild Card teams this year. So, if we can make it to the Playoffs, we can go all the way.

Is it possible that the Redskins and Cowboys play THREE games this year? Maybe an NFC Championship game?

If we can win the next three games (Bucks, Bills, and Bears), and we get our missing players back, we'll have a great shot at finishing 10-6 or 11-5.

I see a Cowboys-Redskins showdown in the NFC Championship game.
Chris Luva Luva
---
---
Posts: 18887
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:55 pm
Location: AJT
Contact:

Post by Chris Luva Luva »

BnGhog wrote:I agree with you also, about this team not having the identity.

Then remember that Portis, openly stated that he wanted the game on his shoulders. Gibbs gave it a try. Now, against the pukes, he put the game in JC's hands.

Both, ended in a loss. We have to put the game on Both. Or I should say we need to put the game in the hands of the TEAM.


I stated in the post-game thread that we go from extreme to another. Against the Eagles we tried to run and force a square peg in a round hold to a fault.

Against the Cowboys I felt that we forgot about Clinton in the 2nd half. I'm aware that the stats proved otherwise but in my gut and just from watching the game I felt that we could have gotten more bang for our buck with more CP time.

We need to find some type of balance. That starts with Gibbs. He IMO has not discovered what he wants to do with this offense. He doesn't want to hand the reigns over and as far as we know he's still spoon feeding plays to Al for him to call the game from. One game isn't proof enough that Al is finally being given a fair shot.

On the other side of the coin the defense is smooth as butter. There is a goal and a light at the end of the tunnel. There is a scheme and you know what to expect. There are deficits at positions that have been acknowledged and will be addressed and will make a huge impact.

The offense IMO due to Gibbs is very murky.

An offense that is John against the Eagles, David against Dallas, and Peter Parker against Tampa won't have a clue what to do once they make it into the playoffs IMO.
The road to the number 1 pick gaining speed!
User avatar
riggofan
HereComesTheDiesel
HereComesTheDiesel
Posts: 9460
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Montclair, Virginia

Post by riggofan »

I haven't given up hope on the playoffs. The Cardinals do have a better looking schedule than ours though. And Tampa is pretty much a must win for us if we're going to get anything going.

I need to check out the Tamp pre-game thread and see what you guys think about that one. :)

Hang in there skins fans and enjoy what's left of the ride. You'll be missing it all come February.
Chris Luva Luva
---
---
Posts: 18887
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:55 pm
Location: AJT
Contact:

Post by Chris Luva Luva »

riggofan wrote:Hang in there skins fans and enjoy what's left of the ride. You'll be missing it all come February.


Very, very true.
The road to the number 1 pick gaining speed!
Steve Spurrier III
----------
----------
Posts: 2167
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:48 am

Post by Steve Spurrier III »

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Now you can go and say how much Skin pride and faith you have and blah blah blah blah.


Oh no, you're talking to the wrong person when it comes to that stuff. It doesn't take "pride and faith" to realize that the Redskins are a game out of the final wild card spot, and the team that holds that final wild card spot is a team the Redskins beat the living bejeesus out of earlier this season.

If anything, positing that this team doesn't even have a chance of making up a single game on the Lions requires a certain amount of unreasonable pessimism.
I'm bored, I'm broke, and I'm back.
Fios
The Evil Straw
The Evil Straw
Posts: 8135
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:30 pm
Location: Leather Chair
Contact:

Post by Fios »

Steve Spurrier III wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Now you can go and say how much Skin pride and faith you have and blah blah blah blah.


Oh no, you're talking to the wrong person when it comes to that stuff. It doesn't take "pride and faith" to realize that the Redskins are a game out of the final wild card spot, and the team that holds that final wild card spot is a team the Redskins beat the living bejeesus out of earlier this season.

If anything, positing that this team doesn't even have a chance of making up a single game on the Lions requires a certain amount of unreasonable pessimism.


Especially when there is a very real chance the Lions go 0-6 down the stretch.
RIP Sean Taylor
GSPODS
Hog
Posts: 4716
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:20 am

Post by GSPODS »

Fios wrote:
Steve Spurrier III wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Now you can go and say how much Skin pride and faith you have and blah blah blah blah.


Oh no, you're talking to the wrong person when it comes to that stuff. It doesn't take "pride and faith" to realize that the Redskins are a game out of the final wild card spot, and the team that holds that final wild card spot is a team the Redskins beat the living bejeesus out of earlier this season.

If anything, positing that this team doesn't even have a chance of making up a single game on the Lions requires a certain amount of unreasonable pessimism.


Especially when there is a very real chance the Lions go 0-6 down the stretch.


The chances of Detroit going 0-6 aren't all that great.
Three probable losses are the two games against Green Bay and the game against Dallas. Minnesota, San Diego and Kansas City aren't exactly striking the fear of God into opponents. Detroit could just as easily go 3-3. The Skins need a six game winning streak.
Steve Spurrier III
----------
----------
Posts: 2167
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:48 am

Post by Steve Spurrier III »

The Redskins don't have to go 11-5 to make the playoffs - that's just ridiculous. It's probably going to have to be 10-6, maybe 9-7.

A 10-6 team has only missed the playoffs twice since 1992 - the 2005 Chiefs and the 2003 Dolphins. And something tells me the 2007 NFC isn't quite as competitive as the 2005 or 2003 AFC was.
I'm bored, I'm broke, and I'm back.
VetSkinsFan
One Step Away
One Step Away
Posts: 7652
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:31 am
Location: NoVA

Post by VetSkinsFan »

Let's just take it week by week. I haven't bought my playoff hat JUST yet.
...any given Sunday....

RIP #21 Sean Taylor. You will be loved and adored by Redskins fans forever!!!!!

GSPODS:
The National Anthem sucks.
What a useless piece of propagandist rhetoric that is.
Fios
The Evil Straw
The Evil Straw
Posts: 8135
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:30 pm
Location: Leather Chair
Contact:

Post by Fios »

GSPODS wrote:
Fios wrote:
Steve Spurrier III wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Now you can go and say how much Skin pride and faith you have and blah blah blah blah.


Oh no, you're talking to the wrong person when it comes to that stuff. It doesn't take "pride and faith" to realize that the Redskins are a game out of the final wild card spot, and the team that holds that final wild card spot is a team the Redskins beat the living bejeesus out of earlier this season.

If anything, positing that this team doesn't even have a chance of making up a single game on the Lions requires a certain amount of unreasonable pessimism.


Especially when there is a very real chance the Lions go 0-6 down the stretch.


The chances of Detroit going 0-6 aren't all that great.
Three probable losses are the two games against Green Bay and the game against Dallas. Minnesota, San Diego and Kansas City aren't exactly striking the fear of God into opponents. Detroit could just as easily go 3-3. The Skins need a six game winning streak.


The Vikings are a team with a solid run defense, bad secondary and decent pass rush, a la the Redskins, though Minnesota's secondary is really bad. Then again, so is Detroit's. However, the Lions have decided to focus on running the ball since they can't keep Kitna upright long enough for their pass offense to be effective. The Vikings are third against the run, when you add that with a horrible offensive line, the Lions lose. The Lions did beat the Vikings earlier this year but Minnesota played sloppy with 12 penalties and they turned the ball over five times. They've addressed both of those issues since that game, their lines (O and D) are too good for Detroit.
RIP Sean Taylor
User avatar
die cowboys die
Hog
Posts: 2115
Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:37 pm
Location: Boston, MA

Post by die cowboys die »

VetSkinsFan wrote:Let's just take it week by week. I haven't bought my playoff hat JUST yet.


so you're not "hatting"?
Irn-Bru
FanFromAnnapolis
FanFromAnnapolis
Posts: 12025
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:01 pm
Location: on the bandwagon
Contact:

Post by Irn-Bru »

We could use a few more hatters on this site. Or wait, was it?. . . :hmm:
Bob 0119
The Punisher
The Punisher
Posts: 2592
Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:34 pm
Location: Manassas

Post by Bob 0119 »

I still believe that the key game for us in the stretch is New York.

If (and that's a big if) they play as well as they did last week, these remaining 6 weeks, Then the Giants will be our true litmus test.

If we win New York, we go 11-5. If we lose to NY, we still have a real shot of going 10-6 even though we have to face Dallas at the end of the season.

Unfortunately for those looking for a real competetive game, the Dallas game will be a throw away for them as they will most likely bench all of their starters as they cruise into the playoffs as division champs.

As much as CLL's comments suck, he has a valid point to be skeptical of our consistancy. That is going to be the key for us now....can keep up this energy from Dallas, play to that level every week and win out 5 or six of the remaining games this year?

It all starts with Tampa...

I'm not ready to fire up the bandwagon just yet, but I'm makin' sure the tires are good, and that it's got fuel.
MEZZSKIN
Hog
Posts: 537
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:59 pm
Location: Long Island NY

Post by MEZZSKIN »

BOB you make a great point..I was thinking the very same thing about that Dallas game....as much as it pains me we al most need DALLAS TO win out to 14-1 which gurantees it will be meaningless...if there 13-2..it could still have HOME FIELD ramifications
Steve Spurrier III
----------
----------
Posts: 2167
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:48 am

Post by Steve Spurrier III »

For those who haven't seen Jason La Canfora's blog, he does a great job illustrating how weak the NFC is this year, and how frighteningly good the Redskins' chances really are:

But above all of that, the Skins are still in good shape. The NFC this year might actually be worse than last year. It's pretty pathetic. The two biggest things to happen for the Skins the last two weeks? The Saints losing two games. That was the one team I thought had a legit shot to pull away with the final wildcard spot. But they stink too, and that four-game winning streak of theirs seems like ancient history.

Five spots are taken - the 4 division winners and the Giants (they are going to be a wildcard). So the Skins can focus on the final spot. Biggest Skins win of the year? To me, holding on against Arizona. Rackers hits that kick folks, and this team is on life support. As it stands now, even losing to Tampa this weekend - and having 3 straights losses and what would be a 3-5 NFC record - isn't close to being the end of the world.

Let's look at it this way, who they gotta finish ahead of?

The Lions (6-5) are fading, have two games left with Green Bay, including Turkey Day and I'm not totally convinced they win more than another game all season. I see them as 8 wins at best, which means an 8-8 Skins team goes in ahead of them.

Arizona (5-5), to me, is the best team of this entire lot of ho-hum, not very good pretenders, and they actually have the easiest schedule. They lost a heartbreaker to the Ravens and Skins; take out the Maryland games and they are running away with the second wildcard in my opinion. The Cards only have 2 road games left - at New Orleans and Seattle - so they should at least split those. They get San Fran this week (they should be 6-5 and in command of a wildcard spot by then), and also have Cleveland, Atlanta and St. Louis at home. Not exactly Murder's Row. If any of these second tier teams can get to 9 wins, I say it's them, which, of course, would probably end Washington's hopes. Arizona beat Detroit head-to-head, another reason I see them as the team the Skins must fear the most. If Arizona goes wild, they might take the division title from Seattle, but with the Hawks cake schedule I can't see them with less than 9 wins, so I'm putting them in.


Philly (5-5) will probably get pounded by New England this week, their QB is hurt again and they have to go through Seattle, the Giants and at Dallas after that. I don't see them surviving that.

The rest of the 4-5 win teams - Carolina, Chicago, Minnesota - are bad even by these standards.

So, even if the Skins lose to Tampa, assuming they take care of a little business at home and don't collapse completely, they will be alive until Week 16. Even if they are like 7-8 heading into that game, assuming they beat Chicago and Minnesota (rather than 1 win being an AFC game against Buffalo) they might even control their own destiny heading into the finale with a Dallas team that will probably have nothing to play for.

Just be mediocre, baby, and you're alive in the NFC. Barring Arizona reeling off a serious win streak, this will go down to the bitter end.


And that's our point. Not that the Skins are worldbeaters, because they're not. Just that in a mediocre NFC, the Redskins can still slip into the playoffs.
I'm bored, I'm broke, and I'm back.
User avatar
roybus14
Hog
Posts: 1117
Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:42 pm
Location: Maryland

Post by roybus14 »

The point is not to just "slip" into the playoffs. It should be "storm" into the playoffs with a more attacking offense like what we saw on Sunday....


Part of the reason why we are 5-5 is because we didn't play the way we played on Sunday in the previous 10 games. Yes, we won five but we could have won four more if the offense we played with on Sunday was put in every week at the start of the season.

Think about it.... How good would this offense be if we started the season with the attacking style offense? And we did what we did the last two weeks with replacements on the right side. That shows you that it's not the personnel, it's the coaching. Mannnn!!! This offense would be clicking by now and blowing people out.....

Think about it??????
Sean Taylor - 1983-2007 R.I.P.... Forever A Skin.....
KazooSkinsFan
kazoo
kazoo
Posts: 10293
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:00 pm
Location: Kazmania

Post by KazooSkinsFan »

roybus14 wrote:The point is not to just "slip" into the playoffs. It should be "storm" into the playoffs with a more attacking offense like what we saw on Sunday....


Part of the reason why we are 5-5 is because we didn't play the way we played on Sunday in the previous 10 games. Yes, we won five but we could have won four more if the offense we played with on Sunday was put in every week at the start of the season.

Think about it.... How good would this offense be if we started the season with the attacking style offense? And we did what we did the last two weeks with replacements on the right side. That shows you that it's not the personnel, it's the coaching. Mannnn!!! This offense would be clicking by now and blowing people out.....

Think about it??????


I totally agree with your basic point that we're in good shape. But to talk about it as if it's just the play calling I don't agree with. The line has just been coming together and playing well the last few games after being wiped out, Moss was just back this week, JC had less then a full season at the start and he's clearly improving, not just getting different plays called.

But the bottom line is when you look at our team improving and hopefully getting more guys back and healthier w/o losing more, getting JC more experience and keep growing the cohesion and we're TOTALLY in the playoff race. And frankly no one is scarry in the NFC, despite Dallas and Green Bay having 1 loss. Fortunately it's not college where the rest of the season wouldn't matter.
Hail to the Redskins!

Groucho: Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him

Twain: A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
Countertrey
the 'mudge
the 'mudge
Posts: 16632
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2004 11:15 pm
Location: Curmudgeon Corner, Maine

Post by Countertrey »

Unfortunately for those looking for a real competetive game, the Dallas game will be a throw away for them as they will most likely bench all of their starters


If the Redskins have just gone 5-0 at that point, there is no way Dallas views this as a throw away game. They will likely have to face us again, and they will likely have to do so knowing that we can shut down their passing game (ST will be back). They will feel that they need to prove a point, and they will know that they have a bye the next week to deal with injuries. They will play to win... and lose anyway... :wink:
"That's a clown question, bro"
- - - - - - - - - - Bryce Harper, DC Statesman
"But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have"
- - - - - - - - - - Dewey Bunnell, America
Bob 0119
The Punisher
The Punisher
Posts: 2592
Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:34 pm
Location: Manassas

Post by Bob 0119 »

Countertrey wrote:
Unfortunately for those looking for a real competetive game, the Dallas game will be a throw away for them as they will most likely bench all of their starters


If the Redskins have just gone 5-0 at that point, there is no way Dallas views this as a throw away game. They will likely have to face us again, and they will likely have to do so knowing that we can shut down their passing game (ST will be back). They will feel that they need to prove a point, and they will know that they have a bye the next week to deal with injuries. They will play to win... and lose anyway... :wink:


If you're a lock to win div and home field (not that they are, but IF they are come late Dec), you've got nothing left to prove until playoff time.

If anything, you want a team that you may face again to become overconfident, so you let 'em win when it means nothing, then kick the crap out of 'em when it does...
User avatar
redskingush
Hog
Posts: 1369
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:01 pm
Location: Southern Ontario, Canada

Post by redskingush »

To go to the playoffs, we have got to start winning games, period. It all starts against Tampa on Sunday, and it would be nice to get the tie breaker on them.
GO SKINS GO!!
User avatar
Deadskins
JSPB22
JSPB22
Posts: 18392
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:03 am
Location: Location, LOCATION!

Post by Deadskins »

Bazump, bump, bump.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.


Hog Bowl IV Champion (2012)

Hail to the Redskins!
Post Reply