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Fios wrote:I'm making the point that scoring a touchdown on that series ices the game. It allows the defense to change its approach, knowing Philly has to score twice and do that as quickly as possible. It also gives the offense a series wherein all it has to do is eat clock.
Fios wrote:I should add that I know they understand what scoring a touchdown there means, my issue is with how they went about doing it.
GSPODS wrote:Fios wrote:I should add that I know they understand what scoring a touchdown there means, my issue is with how they went about doing it.
I though your article was 'empirically' clear on that point. One pass attempt was simply not enough balance against a team that likes to stack against the run, and is very good at red zone rushing defense.
HEROHAMO wrote: To put so much emphasis on one offensive drive in that game is simply unfair to an offense that had performed well most of the game. Al Saunders and Gibbs had called a good game except maybe that one series.
Gibbs was unflinching in his defense of the draw play as well, although Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Johnson commented after the game that he expected it. Gibbs allowed quarterback Jason Campbell to decide at the line whether to run the draw or pass. He praised Campbell for opting for the draw play, although Portis fell three yards short of the goal line. Gibbs also had a terse assessment of Johnson's comment: "Normally they do [know what play is coming] after it's over with. . . . They're always pretty sharp on that."
DEHog wrote:Yes JC made the call on third down...people should really look at the facts before they start bashing Gibbs for every little thing. To say Gibbs didn't trust JC is wrong Gibbs allowed him to call the plays in the hurry-up???
As for penalties I saw two... one called and one not... calls that cost us dearly. The first was oney...that play was a TD!! Game over!! The second was on LJ Smith on the screen pass. Look at the replay he grabs Landry so hard that Landry's shoulders pad come out of his jersey and after he did it he turned and looked back for a flag because he knew he was holding!! Not saying that the Eagles wouldn't have still scored...but you have to call that there is that spot it so help aid Westbrook on the run!!
Fios wrote:DEHog wrote:Yes JC made the call on third down...people should really look at the facts before they start bashing Gibbs for every little thing. To say Gibbs didn't trust JC is wrong Gibbs allowed him to call the plays in the hurry-up???
As for penalties I saw two... one called and one not... calls that cost us dearly. The first was oney...that play was a TD!! Game over!! The second was on LJ Smith on the screen pass. Look at the replay he grabs Landry so hard that Landry's shoulders pad come out of his jersey and after he did it he turned and looked back for a flag because he knew he was holding!! Not saying that the Eagles wouldn't have still scored...but you have to call that there is that spot it so help aid Westbrook on the run!!
1) Look at the post above yours
2) I didn't say "didn't trust" I said "stopped trusting"
3) I still don't see anyone defending the decision to run, which is my main point
Fios wrote:My understanding of the arrangement with Saunders and Gibbs is that anything within the red zone is filtered through Gibbs.
And I said this (to a friend) yesterday: I would much rather have watched JC try to throw it in and get picked off than die that slow death.
wbbradb wrote:Fios wrote:My understanding of the arrangement with Saunders and Gibbs is that anything within the red zone is filtered through Gibbs.
So the plays go from Saunders to Gibbs to JC in the red zone? And then from Saunders to JC otherwise? Has this been confirmed? And do you think that Gibbs is overruling Saunders and saying, no, we have to run here? Or forcing Saunders (or JC) to run certain plays? I just don't think that's happening.And I said this (to a friend) yesterday: I would much rather have watched JC try to throw it in and get picked off than die that slow death.
All right, I respect that. But I'd rather try to punch it in and chew up the clock with the lead. And I don't quite remember, but I thinkey's false start was going to be a pass, right? In any case, even I didn't think the defense would completely collapse the way it did. I just don't feel as much frustration over the playcalling as I do over the penalties and lack of focus. And for game preparation and focus, the blame definitely rests with Gibbs.
I also heard a lot of ranting on WIP about McNabb and Reid -- I don't know if last week's comeback win has muted any of that. Sorry from your perspective. I expected a Washington win. The Redskins' goal-line playcalling near the end was atrocious.
GSPODS wrote:successful teams know their adjustments and execute.