Whats Up with Jerimaih Trotter

rtlh13 · Post by **rtlh13** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:18 pm

Why does Joe Gibbs want to cut him? Is there something about him that alot of people do not know.

He was a great player with the Eagles and there was alot of anger when he left because he turned down a contract extension. He seemed to struggle his firsr year but seemed to play pretty well last year and and got better as the season went on. He got a big bomus and won't that hurt the skins cap.

rhavin72 · Post by **rhavin72** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:33 pm

IMHO Trotter was set to make too much money for someone who has been underperforming. Add to that a serious knee injury coupled with age, and you have someone who's productivity most likely will not justify his contract any longer.

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:01 pm

It was probably that he's getting paid too much money for his recent performance. Like Arrington, even in Philly, Trotter was a loose cannon on the field...and he brought that with him to D.C., blowing a lot of his assignments. Furthermore, because Gibbs has and will always say that "character comes first", something tells me that Trotter's character off the field may be questionable in Gibbs' eyes as well.

If he does not have Gibbs' Redskins character, I say dump him, too!

ANT7088 · Post by **ANT7088** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:03 pm

rhavin72 wrote:IMHO Trotter was set to make too much money for someone who has been underperforming. Add to that a serious knee injury coupled with age, and you have someone who's productivity most likely will not justify his contract any longer.

Age????? Are you crazy???? He's 27!

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:09 pm

Justice Hog said it all
Trotter was a loose cannon on the field...and he brought that with him to D.C., blowing a lot of his assignments.

That's and his contract really leaves us no other option He WONT change he's been playing that way for to long

:shock:

What's the deal with holdman? He was cut by the Bears before Free Agents could talk to other teams (and he still hasn't sign with anyone?)

rtlh13 · Post by **rtlh13** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:10 pm

To Justice Hog,

Do you know of anything about his character off the field?
He was one of the true character guys in Philly, on and off the field. Andy Reid has tendancies to take things to personally and just cut him because he turned down a contract extension early on then when Trotter got in a position of leverage the eagles said good bye.

Now if Gibbs who has alot more respect than Reid is about to give him the heave ho, I wonder if there is sometning that has not come out

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:15 pm

I believe that Trotter would have been worth the money if we hadn't had high school coaches running this organization the past 2 years.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:23 pm

Justice Hog wrote:It was probably that he's getting paid too much money for his recent performance. Like Arrington, even in Philly, Trotter was a loose cannon on the field...and he brought that with him to D.C., blowing a lot of his assignments. Furthermore, because Gibbs has and will always say that "character comes first", something tells me that Trotter's character off the field may be questionable in Gibbs' eyes as well.

If he does not have Gibbs' Redskins character, I say dump him, too!

Sorry JH, but his number say diffrent.
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12774

BigCarter28 · Post by **BigCarter28** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:21 am

who cares about the numbers, I watched this player suck

box8276 · Post by **box8276** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:30 pm

whats up guys........new poster here.....lifelong
skins fan. Justed wanted to add that i noticed too that Trotter missed too many assignments..even during games the announcers would notice this. I say all we need is a decent mb, someone who is smart, smart being the keyword.You can have all the talent in the world but if u dont know your gap assignment,and hit the wrong hole, then you look around and the rb is 10 yds. behind you. And i believe Gibbs feels the same way, just look at who the skins are going after....not flashy, just plain smart....love reading all the posts....thanks guys.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:46 pm

BigCarter28 wrote:who cares about the numbers, I watched this player suck

How did he "suck"? He made the plays and ........... :-#

Coaching is key. Guidance is key. The defense as a whole "sucked," lets not put it on one guy because he is trade bait :wink:

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:50 pm

box8276 wrote:whats up guys........new poster here.....lifelong
skins fan. Justed wanted to add that i noticed too that Trotter missed too many assignments..even during games the announcers would notice this. I say all we need is a decent mb, someone who is smart, smart being the keyword.You can have all the talent in the world but if u dont know your gap assignment,and hit the wrong hole, then you look around and the rb is 10 yds. behind you. And i believe Gibbs feels the same way, just look at who the skins are going after....not flashy, just plain smart....love reading all the posts....thanks guys.

This to me is a product of badd coaching. LA, despite his abilities missed more than Trotter and had less numbers. I dont think Gibbs doubt his abilities, I think this is about the cap. Its funny how no one dogged this dude before the trade was announced :roll:

portis26 · Post by **portis26** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:01 pm

Move on, bottom line is the guy is overpaid and not gonna be a skin for much longer. As Boss has pointed out numerous times also, attitude might have been our problem with him not just his poor play on the field

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:05 pm

portis26 wrote:Move on, bottom line is the guy is overpaid and not gonna be a skin for much longer. As Boss has pointed out numerous times also, attitude might have been our problem with him not just his poor play on the field

Move over, whatever it is/was it aint his abilities. Pure speculation we dont know what the reason for him leaving is until we see a link on it :oops:

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:51 pm

i've heard from an "inside" source, which i can't reveal, that trotter was locker room poison. i've heard he picked fights, among other things. but i also remeber that he was one of the few starters to show up at gibbs initial press conference. i thought that showed a lot of class. i'm kinda torn between the sides on this issue.

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:35 pm

rtlh13 asks:

Do you know of anything about his character off the field?

The quick answer to your question is "no", I know of no specific examples. Because Gibbs primary focus is on a player's "character" however (and not talent), and because Gibbs has told Trotter to look elsewhere....putting my trust in Gibbs...that alone is telling me Trotter has character issues.

redskincity argues:

Sorry JH, but his number say diffrent.

Dude. You're not really trying to sell me Trotter's numbers to support the idea that he maintains his assignments, are you? My point was that Trotter simply is not playing his position like he should...just like he did when he was in Philly. If he did play his position correctly, his numbers probably would have been much better.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:55 pm

hailskins666 wrote:i've heard from an "inside" source, which i can't reveal, that trotter was locker room poison.

Oh, knock it off, Hellhog. We know who your source is.
What else have you heard, Jake ? ROTFALMAO

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:31 pm

tcwest10 wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:i've heard from an "inside" source, which i can't reveal, that trotter was locker room poison.

Oh, knock it off, Hellhog. We know who your source is.
What else have you heard, Jake ?

Man..You crazy TC. ROTFALMAO

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:35 pm

Justice Hog wrote:rtlh13 asks:
Do you know of anything about his character off the field?

The quick answer to your question is "no", I know of no specific examples. Because Gibbs primary focus is on a player's "character" however (and not talent), and because Gibbs has told Trotter to look elsewhere....putting my trust in Gibbs...that alone is telling me Trotter has character issues.

redskincity argues:
Sorry JH, but his number say diffrent.

Dude. You're not really trying to sell me Trotter's numbers to support the idea that he maintains his assignments, are you? My point was that Trotter simply is not playing his position like he should...just like he did when he was in Philly. If he did play his position correctly, his numbers probably would have been much better.

If he is missing his assingnments how does he have so many tackles? DUDE.

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:39 pm

Hey redskinscity, if he stayed within his assignments...how many tackles would he have had? Maybe even a Pro Bowl? Hmmmm?

Players miss assignments and sometimes still are able to make a play. Because they miss the assignment, however, the play they make may be 3-5 yards further down the field than the play should've been made.

The number of tackles one makes is not a good indicator whether that person is doing their job, in my opinion. It's where and when those tackles are made that counts....just as much (if not more) than the number of tackles made.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:43 pm

Justice Hog wrote:Hey redskinscity, if he stayed within his assignments...how many tackles would he have had? Maybe even a Pro Bowl? Hmmmm?

Players miss assignments and sometimes still are able to make a play. Because they miss the assignment, however, the play they make may be 3-5 yards further down the field than the play should've been made.

The number of tackles one makes is not a good indicator whether that person is doing their job, in my opinion. It's where and when those tackles are made that counts....just as much (if not more) than the number of tackles made.

Now thats what I am talking about. That make a whole lot more sense. In that case if you are right, I concur with your statement. "This is a very good point."

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:51 pm

When Trotter wasn't missing assignments he was freelancing his way out of a lot of plays

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:03 pm

1niksder wrote:When Trotter wasn't missing assignments he was freelancing his way out of a lot of plays

My thing with this is....why were all three of our LBs freelancing last season and were not, with Marvin Lewis when he roamed the sideline at Fedex??

Fanforever · Post by **Fanforever** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:13 pm

Like everything else man, it's all about the money!!

redskinz4ever · Post by **redskinz4ever** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:19 pm

not to start any trouble but lavar freelances a hell of times also needs to control those 15 yarders for late hits.love our linebackers and hope the new defensive cordinator can control any stupid plays from continuing the other teams drives.REDSKINZ4EVER!!!

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