PatriotsFan Here...looking forward to sundays game...you have a great secondry with landry,taylor and rogers,should be a tough task for the patriots..
Looking forward to some friendly chat leading up to the game
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I think this will be the best secondary Brady has had to play this year. Unfortunately for us, your O-Line is playing so well I'm not sure how much it will matter!
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I don't know. I just don't know!
One part of me thinks this may be an easy game for the Pats, with our OL troubles and all.
Still.....there's something in my gut that is rumbling.
My gut is feeling we just may pull off a surprising win, with the Pats looking ahead to the Colts the following week.
If we can get a TD (or 2) on defense and/or special teams, we just may be in this game.
One part of me thinks this may be an easy game for the Pats, with our OL troubles and all.
Still.....there's something in my gut that is rumbling.
My gut is feeling we just may pull off a surprising win, with the Pats looking ahead to the Colts the following week.
If we can get a TD (or 2) on defense and/or special teams, we just may be in this game.
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we should definetly be the toughest defense you have faced up until this point .. a chance for you to find out what your guys can do with a team that plays the pass well.. Im confident in our D to be able to keep us in this game early on but if the offense doesnt show up which it really hasnt yet this year then I worry you guys will wear us down..
Gibbs needs to check his ego at the door and finally hand over the offense to Saunders in all areas.. which it has been stated by players he hasnt done.. If our offense can get a rythm I truly feel like we can stick around with you .. we do have some weapons but they arent being used properly IMO ..
Gibbs needs to check his ego at the door and finally hand over the offense to Saunders in all areas.. which it has been stated by players he hasnt done.. If our offense can get a rythm I truly feel like we can stick around with you .. we do have some weapons but they arent being used properly IMO ..
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PATRIOT4EVER wrote:PatriotsFan Here...looking forward to sundays game...you have a great secondry with landry,taylor and rogers,should be a tough task for the patriots..
Man you aren't lying there brutha!!! Our defense can definitely match up with the Pats nuclear offense. Our offensive line barring anymore damn injuries HOPEFULLY can stop your guys dline rush. If we play conservative, we're done!
Have a great Sunday up there Patsfan and what the heck, let us win.. we're just the Skins.. LOL
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Man I hope your Gut is rightJustice Hog wrote:I don't know. I just don't know!
One part of me thinks this may be an easy game for the Pats, with our OL troubles and all.
Still.....there's something in my gut that is rumbling.
My gut is feeling we just may pull off a surprising win, with the Pats looking ahead to the Colts the following week.
If we can get a TD (or 2) on defense and/or special teams, we just may be in this game.
Justice Hog wrote:I don't know. I just don't know!
One part of me thinks this may be an easy game for the Pats, with our OL troubles and all.
Still.....there's something in my gut that is rumbling.
My gut is feeling we just may pull off a surprising win, with the Pats looking ahead to the Colts the following week.
If we can get a TD (or 2) on defense and/or special teams, we just may be in this game.
That rumbling in your gut is the Scrapple.
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my guess would be that this game will follow the "Joe Gibbs Game Plan Version 2- for when we are trailing", which goes as follows:
1. we will follow our long-standing tradition of beginning the game with a nice long drive into scoring range, followed by a missed FG or a portis fumble, completely wasting all the work that went into the drive. (the turnover might also be an infuriating deflection of a screen pass that bounces directly into the hands of an opposing lineman, as every single deflected pass we have thrown in the past 7 years has done).
2. we will follow this with another nice drive and score some form of points
3. after 2 successful drives against them, the opponent's defense will make adjustments. we will completely ignore this and continue doing everything we were doing the first 2 drives (presumably because gibbs has become convinced "gee, i know these strategies must work, we just got 2 nice drives out of them!")
4. we will get the ball back with about 2 minutes left before half-time, and switch over into a 2-minute drill in which we actually, you know, throw Actual Passes (a new statistical category i have recently invented that discludes Brunellian-style dinks and dunks [like hitches and screen passes] that are more realistically "hand-offs from a great distance" than they are actual PASSES]).
campbell will throw 4 to 6 excellent passes to randle el, we will get stopped at the 3 yard line, and throw a touchdown pass to cooley to basically end the half.
[*a quick note here- the passes to randle el will be in the midst of tight downfield coverage, not simply dinks and dunks given up intentionally by a "Prevent" defense.]
***HALFTIME: REDSKINS ARE DOWN BY 10***
5. on our first drive in the 2nd half, the opponent will naturally assume "gosh, they finally started throwing Actual Passes there at the end and beat us, even though we knew they didn't have time to run and were completely selling out on the pass. combine that with the fact that they are down by 2 scores, and we had shut down their conservative plays for their past 4 or 5 drives, then surely they're going to realize they need to come out in this half with guns blazing."
gibbs, on the other hand, will come out thinking "gosh, we're doing a good job keeping this thing pretty tight, let's just keep slugging away and hope to not make too big a mistake that lets them get too far ahead".
[*a quick note here-- some inexplicable relativistic mathematic phenomenon occurs inside gibbs' mind in which a 10 point deficit is quite reasonably approached by trying to slowly erode it over the course of an entire half, yet somehow if those same 10 points were to be reversed and held as a lead, suddenly become an utterly insurmountable lead, requiring no effort whatsoever to score any further, regardless of whether the 10 point lead is secured in the 4th quarter or the 2nd).]
gibbs therefore calls for the same ultra-conservative plays that had stopped working 7 minutes into the game. ironically enough, they actually start to work again since the defense is expecting the pass (for reasons stated above). so we begin another good drive, but the defense adjusts more quickly this time since it already knows what scheme to adjust to. we are limited to a FG attempt.
6. once again, gibbs views the success at moving the ball with the ultra-conservative plays as proof that it is the right approach. he concludes "ok, we were down by 10, we got a FG and now are down by 7, so i guess 3 more FGs and we'll win by 2 points".
naturally, this approach produces a stalled drive.
7. repeat stalled drive
8. we have our patended random, inexplicable touchdown drive halfway through the 3rd quarter
9. stalled drive
10. stalled drive
11. stalled drive
12. with around 7-8 minutes left in the game, the defense becomes completely exhausted and finally breaks. the opponent begins scoring at will.
13. we put together another score or two, but the game is effectively over. gibbs stands on the sidelines afterward bewildered, wondering "but we were down by 10 points, and we got more than 10 points... i don't understand...", seemingly oblivious that yes, the opponent is in fact also permitted to score in the 2nd half.
14. redskins fans all over the country drink themselves silly
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the only adjustment i might expect from this script is that due to the patriots' exceptional talent/skill level, #12 could happen quite a bit earlier in the 2nd half, perhaps even very early.
the only way we will the game or probably even avoid being totally blown out is if gibbs grows the courage to take the training wheels off the offense and let campbell run saunders' full passing game. even then, we will need some extra contributions-- defensive takeaways/scores, big special teams plays, and at least a couple surprise/gadget plays (randle el throwing a TD pass, etc). maybe not all of the above but definitely at least some.
if gibbs plans to send the offense out there with the same stock Brunellian GamePlan, hoping to "protect jason, not put too much on him", and "squeeze out a victory" by "avoiding mistakes", then there is no reason to even get on the plane to new england, let alone actually take the field. there is exactly zero percent chance of us beating them that way and it will utterly inexcusable if we take that approach.
1. we will follow our long-standing tradition of beginning the game with a nice long drive into scoring range, followed by a missed FG or a portis fumble, completely wasting all the work that went into the drive. (the turnover might also be an infuriating deflection of a screen pass that bounces directly into the hands of an opposing lineman, as every single deflected pass we have thrown in the past 7 years has done).
2. we will follow this with another nice drive and score some form of points
3. after 2 successful drives against them, the opponent's defense will make adjustments. we will completely ignore this and continue doing everything we were doing the first 2 drives (presumably because gibbs has become convinced "gee, i know these strategies must work, we just got 2 nice drives out of them!")
4. we will get the ball back with about 2 minutes left before half-time, and switch over into a 2-minute drill in which we actually, you know, throw Actual Passes (a new statistical category i have recently invented that discludes Brunellian-style dinks and dunks [like hitches and screen passes] that are more realistically "hand-offs from a great distance" than they are actual PASSES]).
campbell will throw 4 to 6 excellent passes to randle el, we will get stopped at the 3 yard line, and throw a touchdown pass to cooley to basically end the half.
[*a quick note here- the passes to randle el will be in the midst of tight downfield coverage, not simply dinks and dunks given up intentionally by a "Prevent" defense.]
***HALFTIME: REDSKINS ARE DOWN BY 10***
5. on our first drive in the 2nd half, the opponent will naturally assume "gosh, they finally started throwing Actual Passes there at the end and beat us, even though we knew they didn't have time to run and were completely selling out on the pass. combine that with the fact that they are down by 2 scores, and we had shut down their conservative plays for their past 4 or 5 drives, then surely they're going to realize they need to come out in this half with guns blazing."
gibbs, on the other hand, will come out thinking "gosh, we're doing a good job keeping this thing pretty tight, let's just keep slugging away and hope to not make too big a mistake that lets them get too far ahead".
[*a quick note here-- some inexplicable relativistic mathematic phenomenon occurs inside gibbs' mind in which a 10 point deficit is quite reasonably approached by trying to slowly erode it over the course of an entire half, yet somehow if those same 10 points were to be reversed and held as a lead, suddenly become an utterly insurmountable lead, requiring no effort whatsoever to score any further, regardless of whether the 10 point lead is secured in the 4th quarter or the 2nd).]
gibbs therefore calls for the same ultra-conservative plays that had stopped working 7 minutes into the game. ironically enough, they actually start to work again since the defense is expecting the pass (for reasons stated above). so we begin another good drive, but the defense adjusts more quickly this time since it already knows what scheme to adjust to. we are limited to a FG attempt.
6. once again, gibbs views the success at moving the ball with the ultra-conservative plays as proof that it is the right approach. he concludes "ok, we were down by 10, we got a FG and now are down by 7, so i guess 3 more FGs and we'll win by 2 points".
naturally, this approach produces a stalled drive.
7. repeat stalled drive
8. we have our patended random, inexplicable touchdown drive halfway through the 3rd quarter
9. stalled drive
10. stalled drive
11. stalled drive
12. with around 7-8 minutes left in the game, the defense becomes completely exhausted and finally breaks. the opponent begins scoring at will.
13. we put together another score or two, but the game is effectively over. gibbs stands on the sidelines afterward bewildered, wondering "but we were down by 10 points, and we got more than 10 points... i don't understand...", seemingly oblivious that yes, the opponent is in fact also permitted to score in the 2nd half.
14. redskins fans all over the country drink themselves silly
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the only adjustment i might expect from this script is that due to the patriots' exceptional talent/skill level, #12 could happen quite a bit earlier in the 2nd half, perhaps even very early.
the only way we will the game or probably even avoid being totally blown out is if gibbs grows the courage to take the training wheels off the offense and let campbell run saunders' full passing game. even then, we will need some extra contributions-- defensive takeaways/scores, big special teams plays, and at least a couple surprise/gadget plays (randle el throwing a TD pass, etc). maybe not all of the above but definitely at least some.
if gibbs plans to send the offense out there with the same stock Brunellian GamePlan, hoping to "protect jason, not put too much on him", and "squeeze out a victory" by "avoiding mistakes", then there is no reason to even get on the plane to new england, let alone actually take the field. there is exactly zero percent chance of us beating them that way and it will utterly inexcusable if we take that approach.
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Fios wrote:No chance in hell I am reading all of that
http://www.thehogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25084
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Re: Hey Guys
PATRIOT4EVER wrote:PatriotsFan Here...looking forward to sundays game...you have a great secondry with landry,taylor and rogers,should be a tough task for the patriots..
Looking forward to some friendly chat leading up to the game
Serious question for a Pats fan: Aren't you guys bothered in the slightest by that whole cheating scandal? I used to respect the Patriots for the class of their organization and their "team-first" approach, but now that it's been demonstrated Belichek cheated, I hate 'em as much as I hate the Cowboys. If the Super Bowl is the Patriots/Cowboys, I'm going to hope for a tie!
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If the Superbowl is the Cowboys and Pats, I'm going to hack my own head off with a cheese grater.Mursilis wrote:PATRIOT4EVER wrote:PatriotsFan Here...looking forward to sundays game...you have a great secondry with landry,taylor and rogers,should be a tough task for the patriots..
Looking forward to some friendly chat leading up to the game
Serious question for a Pats fan: Aren't you guys bothered in the slightest by that whole cheating scandal? I used to respect the Patriots for the class of their organization and their "team-first" approach, but now that it's been demonstrated Belichek cheated, I hate 'em as much as I hate the Cowboys. If the Super Bowl is the Patriots/Cowboys, I'm going to hope for a tie!
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UK Skins Fan wrote:If the Superbowl is the Cowboys and Pats, I'm going to hack my own head off with a cheese grater.Mursilis wrote:PATRIOT4EVER wrote:PatriotsFan Here...looking forward to sundays game...you have a great secondry with landry,taylor and rogers,should be a tough task for the patriots..
Looking forward to some friendly chat leading up to the game
Serious question for a Pats fan: Aren't you guys bothered in the slightest by that whole cheating scandal? I used to respect the Patriots for the class of their organization and their "team-first" approach, but now that it's been demonstrated Belichek cheated, I hate 'em as much as I hate the Cowboys. If the Super Bowl is the Patriots/Cowboys, I'm going to hope for a tie!
One on hand I don't want that match-up, on the other hand that's such an intriguing proposition.
RIP Sean Taylor
I live in NE and find it a little intriguing that the spin machine & NE media up here has attempted to put the cheating scene as the rest of the NFL against us etc.. etc..
The fact that this coach cheated and the manner in which they attempted to do it is almost glossed over and you rarely hear anyone even address it anymore - this is all very past tense up here and it really did not mean anything
- If it did not mean anything to this very talented and competitive coach and team, then, why did they do it and especially against a coach who was a part of their previous cheating episodes when he was with the team and knew they had been both caught and warned by the NFL 
This is not an issue in New England and is actually used by the team and the press to insinuate that "some mis-guided people actually think we may not be the deserving champions we know we are!"
Should be a good game this week and hopefully Brady decides to keep throwing and not find out that beating us with a solid ground game and the occasional pass is a lot more certain against our secondary. If he tries to win this through the air he could be in for a nasty surprise - I would expect that Bellichick will try and cross us up with a solid ground game this week
A lot depends on what his spy cameras have picked up on our tendencies this season.
The fact that this coach cheated and the manner in which they attempted to do it is almost glossed over and you rarely hear anyone even address it anymore - this is all very past tense up here and it really did not mean anything
- If it did not mean anything to this very talented and competitive coach and team, then, why did they do it and especially against a coach who was a part of their previous cheating episodes when he was with the team and knew they had been both caught and warned by the NFL
This is not an issue in New England and is actually used by the team and the press to insinuate that "some mis-guided people actually think we may not be the deserving champions we know we are!"
Should be a good game this week and hopefully Brady decides to keep throwing and not find out that beating us with a solid ground game and the occasional pass is a lot more certain against our secondary. If he tries to win this through the air he could be in for a nasty surprise - I would expect that Bellichick will try and cross us up with a solid ground game this week
A lot depends on what his spy cameras have picked up on our tendencies this season.
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
He could film any local high school team and have all of the offensive game tape on the Redskins he needs. We are better on defense and special teams but, our offense is so pathetic it wont matter. I still expect a good game and I still think we can win it but, its gonna take a different offense than we have seen so far.
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Cheese grater sent... just in case...
I'll send paper towels for the mess later...
If the Superbowl is the Cowboys and Pats, I'm going to hack my own head off with a cheese grater.
Cheese grater sent... just in case...
I'll send paper towels for the mess later...
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Re: Hey Guys
PATRIOT4EVER wrote:PatriotsFan Here...looking forward to sundays game...you have a great secondry with landry,taylor and rogers,should be a tough task for the patriots..
Looking forward to some friendly chat leading up to the game
I'm picking us in my pool this week! Of course I pick us every week.
Oh, and I get 16 1/2 points.
So I believe in our team, but you have to be having a hard time getting any good arguments this year. Man. You're destroying everyone. My money's on you next week versus the Colts.
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Justice Hog wrote:One part of me thinks this may be an easy game for the Pats, with our OL troubles and all.
My gut is feeling we just may pull off a surprising win, with the Pats looking ahead to the Colts the following week.
Obviously your gut lost to the other part of your body, whatever that is.
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