George Bush Fuzzy Math ^^^^^
NFL Tickets are slightly more expensive than MLB tickets. There are $12 bleacher seats in Yankee Stadium. A lot of them. The most expensive seats in Yankee Stadium are $400. Nosebleed seats at FedEx Field are $65. Dream Seats at FedEx Field are $4650. Guess who is making more revenue on tickets?
AL East is no longer the Tankees domain
GSPODS wrote:After three pages it has become more than apparent that no amount of proof to the contrary is convincing enough that ticket revenues are not the primary source of income for any professional sports franchise.
Ticket sales do not pay for player salaries. Ticket sales pay for concessions and concessioneers, service staff, maintainence and upkeep of owner's luxury suites, and other expenses related to the stadium itself.
Franchises claiming to lose revenue for any particular fiscal year do not do so based upon ticket sales for that year. The New York Yankees are estimated to be worth $1.2 Billion based upon the belief that someone would pay that amount to purchase the team. Anything is only worth what someone will pay for it.
The Yankees have a $210 Million player payroll. The cost of stadium operation for one "season" is approximately $160 Million. Ticket sales of $165 Million cover the cost of stadium operation of $160 Million. Ticket sales are $50 Million short of player payroll, not including coaching staff payroll. This means even the Yankees would be operating at a loss without TV revenue. TV revenue is based upon the advertising market. New York is a top-tier advertising market.
Move the Yankees to any other market and their revenue would plummet.
Where did these #'s come from you??? We're the Yankees not the Orioles.
They would plummet in a different market. But that's the difference between Yankee fans & fans like you and your pal over here! Yankee fans make the Yankees what they are, that's been my point since the begining!
Us fans don't try to act like Cleveland fans, just because we're home now!
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Fios wrote:Cleveland neither needs nor wants bandwagon fans but we do welcome any "my team is out so I will back the Indians" support.
How about the "Any team that takes out the Yankees can't be all bad" fan?
Or the "I'll pull for any team not named New York or Boston" fan.
Or the "I don't know how in the bloody hell the Rockies got this far but I'm guessing they aren't as good as their record indicates" fan.
ANT7088 wrote:]GSPODS wrote:George Bush Fuzzy Math ^^^^^
NFL Tickets are slightly more expensive than MLB tickets. There are $12 bleacher seats in Yankee Stadium. A lot of them. The most expensive seats in Yankee Stadium are $400. Nosebleed seats at FedEx Field are $65. Dream Seats at FedEx Field are $4650. Guess who is making more revenue on tickets?
So you think you can sit in the luxury boxes at Yankee Stadium for $400.00......go try!
What wrong you can't compare us to your baseball team???Figures
How about them Orioles, why don't you throw out some facts on them??? Do the math on the O's, then on the Yankees, then you'll know why we're the BEST & the O's are in the gutter.
And you're still comparing over 4,000,000+ people a year to 760,000+
Just for fun multiply our $12.00 bleachers by 4,000,000 people a year!
Hey "Mr. I read what I want" now you're trying to compare JUST the tickets? How about this, you add up tickets, revenue & everything else you feel the need for. Do it for the Yanks, Skins & O's I'll guarantee the Yanks make more! You don't even have to add in the 20,000 yankee fans that were in Baltimore for the last reg. season series.
Fans like you is why when the Redskins played (at home) against the Ravens (I think a few years ago) it sounded like they were in Baltimore!
Have fun with the math!
The numbers are from the team websites. They are accurate. Why don't you just admit that the 9 million people who can get to Yankee Stadium by MTA is solely responsible for their attendance figures?
You can twist your numbers any way you choose to keep trying to prove some useless point. In any case or event, your point is just that. Useless.
Comparing apples to oranges to attempt to prove your point makes it even less meaningful. I know. Let's now compare baseball attendance to soccer attendance in Mexico. All we have to do is to convert American dollars to pesos and locate one site that half-assedly confirms our attempted point. It seems to work for you.
GSPODS wrote:ANT7088 wrote:]GSPODS wrote:George Bush Fuzzy Math ^^^^^
NFL Tickets are slightly more expensive than MLB tickets. There are $12 bleacher seats in Yankee Stadium. A lot of them. The most expensive seats in Yankee Stadium are $400. Nosebleed seats at FedEx Field are $65. Dream Seats at FedEx Field are $4650. Guess who is making more revenue on tickets?
So you think you can sit in the luxury boxes at Yankee Stadium for $400.00......go try!
What wrong you can't compare us to your baseball team???
How about them Orioles, why don't you throw out some facts on them??? Do the math on the O's, then on the Yankees, then you'll know why we're the BEST & the O's are in the gutter.
And you're still comparing over 4,000,000+ people a year to 760,000+
Just for fun multiply our $12.00 bleachers by 4,000,000 people a year!
Hey "Mr. I read what I want" now you're trying to compare JUST the tickets? How about this, you add up tickets, revenue & everything else you feel the need for. Do it for the Yanks, Skins & O's I'll guarantee the Yanks make more! You don't even have to add in the 20,000 yankee fans that were in Baltimore for the last reg. season series.
Fans like you is why when the Redskins played (at home) against the Ravens (I think a few years ago) it sounded like they were in Baltimore!
Have fun with the math!
The numbers are from the team websites. They are accurate. Why don't you just admit that the 9 million people who can get to Yankee Stadium by MTA is solely responsible for their attendance figures?
You can twist your numbers any way you choose to keep trying to prove some useless point. In any case or event, your point is just that. Useless.
Comparing apples to oranges to attempt to prove your point makes it even less meaningful. I know. Let's now compare baseball attendance to soccer attendance in Mexico. All we have to do is to convert American dollars to pesos and locate one site that half-assedly confirms our attempted point. It seems to work for you.
The only thing "useless" is on top of your neck!
The more I read what you type, the more I realize how you just have no clue what your talking about (at all)
Yea talk about Mexico, Soccer, Pesos , MTA & Airplains if you want because you refuse (or just can't) compare the Yankees to a MLB team you like . Everytime you can't defend yourself you bring up something totally different outta left field!
Show me another team that makes more $$$$ than the Yankees. Jealousy doesn't get you anywhere. Our fans are the best & that's a proven fact!
AnTsSkInZ
Fios wrote:Cleveland neither needs nor wants bandwagon fans but we do welcome any "my team is out so I will back the Indians" support.
LOL, well you got 1 more after someone
realized that the O's were not going to make it!
I agree, I'd rather no fans than "bandwagon" fans.
With what Cleveland did to us, I'd like to see them take the whole thing. Great pitching!!!! Also would be cool Indians vs. Rockies for the World Series. I'd bet no one would of thought that at the begining of the season, LOL!
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GSPODS wrote:Resorting to personal attacks is the last act of a desparate man. I'm done here.
Just like I said, whenever you can't defend yourself, you bring up a totally diffenent topic. 1st football, now soccer & pesos. You're done because you can't say anything about baseball. Thanks for proving my point about how you do things.
And if what I said before was "useless" then so is that thing on top of your neck! You could have used alot of other words than "Useless" if you disagreed with what I said( but instead you chose to try to insult me). Anyone on this board that knows me, knows I never personally attack anyone, but I'll defend myself, the Yankees & Redskins till I die!
I was "done" after you felt the need to bring a 3rd sport into the conversation!
You can get as mad as you need, I'm just "breaking chops".
In the end we're all Redskins fans on a Redskins board.... When I say "we" I mean the people who like the Redskins year in & year out, good or bad! I don't know if you fall in this category yet!
AnTsSkInZ
GSPODS wrote:Back to the original thread topic ...
The Yankees tanked again, despite all those tickets they're selling.
I look forward to many future seasons of tanking with great pleasure.
May the Yankees continue to overspend and underperform for all eternity.
Oh back to another subject change, I thought you were done???
How could someone who's team is in the gutter, try to insult a team that made the playoffs? In any sport?????
That would be like me (being a Knicks fans) coming here & trying to mock the Washington Wizards saying "The Bulls are gonna destroy the Wizards, rah, rah, rah"! Sad Sad!
Fios, you can say what you want to me, you beat us, you beat us with a great team, your a REAL fan, your team is still playing & you're probably going to the WS!
AnTsSkInZ
Re: AL East is no longer the Tankees domain
SkinsJock wrote:SkinsJock wrote:I just love the fact that we are now able to watch pure baseball between 2 teams - just a pleasure to have "pure" baseball and not that "manufactured" baseball that involved that bunch from NY
When I first saw this post, I was convinced that I must have made a mistake- this was posted after many drinks on South Beach, Miami and while I remain an anti NY Yankee baseball fan, in all fairness I must retract the allusion to the Yankees playing "manufactured" baseball, whatever the hell that is. My apologies for that!
However - IMO - Friday night's game and the first 8 innings of last night's game were fun playoff games and I am still glad that this post-season baseball does not include any NY hyperbole and exagerations
LOL I missed this post....
I was pretty mad, I didn't know what you meant by that either. I took it as "cheating"
I know you weren't apologizing to me specifically, but I apologize to you for reacting the way I did!
AnTsSkInZ
Fios wrote:What saddens me about the Yankees is that the way the Indians dominated them may finally convince them of the wisdom of spending wisely as opposed to simply spending.
But they'll never change (until GS is totally gone). And maybe not even then.
Even though he gave control to his 2 sons, I believe he'll control them till he dies (or till he just really can't)! Say he died mid-season with "full control" of the team, the media would make a hugh deal of "now what, what are the Yankees gonna do, who's running the team, can his sons do it, yada, yada, yada". I don't think that would be good for that to happen to any team. So now if he dies (not that it wouldn't affect the team), but there wouldn't be confusion about who running the team. They know his 2 son are running things. After GS passes there will be problems that we may never know about!
I imagine we'll hear big names like Tori Hunter, Andruw Jones, Johan Santana etc. during the off season whether GS is running things or not. Whether they spend right or not, we'll see next post season.
The Yankees have some needs, but we were only a starting pitcher or 2 away from being where the Indians are right now.
O well for us!
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