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por-tiz2skins wrote:
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GSPODS wrote:How about let's try and score some points on offense and not leave the defense on the field for nearly an entire half? In case no one noticed, Rogers was not the only Redskin who missed a tackle on the play everyone is beating to death.
I don't care he had hes chances and if he does bad again this whole year than getting D.Hall is no problem.


You don't care that Sean Springs was covering Burress the entire game up until that play and that it might have been Springs, and not Rogers, who blew the defensive coverage? I'm glad you're not my employer. It looks like you'd fire everyone and have to do everything yourself because no one else performs up to your ridiculously high standards. My 2 cents
Doesn't matter he mist us up last year and before last year trough the playoffs.
So what if he does bad again against the Lions? we should start Smoot cause Rogers is done bro I'm sorry.


BTW I found Link to D.Hall being an Free agent


http://www.kffl.com/player/9265/nfl/news

Jason Cole, of Yahoo! Sports, reports Atlanta Falcons CB DeAngelo Hall said he would rather play out the remainder of his contract and become a free agent in 2008 than sign an extension with the Falcons. "Yeah, I could think about an extension, but I think I want to wait and see what the market is going to be like. I'm in a good situation where I can wait," said Hall.


dude get off of Rogers back he hasnt played poorly this year.. its the D were running.. Gregg isnt using our corners correctly.. even Prime Time got beat in his prime .. yes Rogers might not be Champ but theres only one Champ bro.. watch the entire game and learn alittle bit about what were running out there before throwing people under the bus.. Moss dropped a couple passes lets cut our ties with him too.. FA is the answer always :roll:
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everydayAskinsday wrote:
por-tiz2skins wrote:
GSPODS wrote:
por-tiz2skins wrote:
GSPODS wrote:How about let's try and score some points on offense and not leave the defense on the field for nearly an entire half? In case no one noticed, Rogers was not the only Redskin who missed a tackle on the play everyone is beating to death.
I don't care he had hes chances and if he does bad again this whole year than getting D.Hall is no problem.


You don't care that Sean Springs was covering Burress the entire game up until that play and that it might have been Springs, and not Rogers, who blew the defensive coverage? I'm glad you're not my employer. It looks like you'd fire everyone and have to do everything yourself because no one else performs up to your ridiculously high standards. My 2 cents
Doesn't matter he mist us up last year and before last year trough the playoffs.
So what if he does bad again against the Lions? we should start Smoot cause Rogers is done bro I'm sorry.


BTW I found Link to D.Hall being an Free agent


http://www.kffl.com/player/9265/nfl/news

Jason Cole, of Yahoo! Sports, reports Atlanta Falcons CB DeAngelo Hall said he would rather play out the remainder of his contract and become a free agent in 2008 than sign an extension with the Falcons. "Yeah, I could think about an extension, but I think I want to wait and see what the market is going to be like. I'm in a good situation where I can wait," said Hall.


dude get off of Rogers back he hasnt played poorly this year.. its the D were running.. Gregg isnt using our corners correctly.. even Prime Time got beat in his prime .. yes Rogers might not be Champ but theres only one Champ bro.. watch the entire game and learn alittle bit about what were running out there before throwing people under the bus.. Moss dropped a couple passes lets cut our ties with him too.. FA is the answer always :roll:


Ya FA can help us ,its the ones who we always over pay and are old are the ones who do bad.And Rogers mist us up all last year and its no excuse cause GW has the same playbook from 04-05,and in 06 he didn't have the CB's he had.

Rogers is easy to figure out and where going up tall WR like Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson than O boy Rogers.
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you do know how tall D. Hall is right? hes shorter then Rogers
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Let's just cut the entire team and wait until next season, becuase according to your posts, every current Redskins player is over-rated, overpaid, and underperforms. 3 games into the season and you want to start replacing everyone. Good luck with that GM interview.
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GSPODS wrote:Let's just cut the entire team and wait until next season, becuase according to your posts, every current Redskins player is over-rated, overpaid, and underperforms. 3 games into the season and you want to start replacing everyone. Good luck with that GM interview.

I'm just telling you facts cause time it ticking for Rogers and he hasn;t played up the the pick we got him for yet.


He has this whole year and I'm going to be mad if he stays again next year and we start him again after an bad performance.
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GSPODS wrote:Let's just cut the entire team and wait until next season, becuase according to your posts, every current Redskins player is over-rated, overpaid, and underperforms. 3 games into the season and you want to start replacing everyone. Good luck with that GM interview.


dont you get it man.. thats the clear answer.. we can cut a player who messes up each week and then look at whoes gonna be a free agent and replace them.. simple fix.. who needs a GM :?
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everydayAskinsday wrote:
GSPODS wrote:Let's just cut the entire team and wait until next season, becuase according to your posts, every current Redskins player is over-rated, overpaid, and underperforms. 3 games into the season and you want to start replacing everyone. Good luck with that GM interview.


dont you get it man.. thats the clear answer.. we can cut a player who messes up each week and then look at whoes gonna be a free agent and replace them.. simple fix.. who needs a GM :?
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por-tiz2skins wrote:
GSPODS wrote:Let's just cut the entire team and wait until next season, becuase according to your posts, every current Redskins player is over-rated, overpaid, and underperforms. 3 games into the season and you want to start replacing everyone. Good luck with that GM interview.

I'm just telling you facts cause time it ticking for Rogers and he hasn;t played up the the pick we got him for yet.


What facts?

Second, he's played up to his pick better than Antrelle Rolle, who isn't even starting for the Cardinals anymore.

All corners get beat once in awhile. Is Rogers the best corner in the world? No. But he's not the worst, either.

And can you imagine how expensive DeAngelo Hall is going to be?

No, it doesn't matter. Sign him. Sign everyone!
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PulpExposure wrote:
por-tiz2skins wrote:
GSPODS wrote:Let's just cut the entire team and wait until next season, becuase according to your posts, every current Redskins player is over-rated, overpaid, and underperforms. 3 games into the season and you want to start replacing everyone. Good luck with that GM interview.

I'm just telling you facts cause time it ticking for Rogers and he hasn;t played up the the pick we got him for yet.


What facts?

Second, he's played up to his pick better than Antrelle Rolle, who isn't even starting for the Cardinals anymore.

All corners get beat once in awhile. Is Rogers the best corner in the world? No. But he's not the worst, either.

And can you imagine how expensive DeAngelo Hall is going to be?

No, it doesn't matter. Sign him. Sign everyone!


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Who would u all rather have then Pac-Man since his career is pretty much shot, Rolle? since he is injury prone and not even starting anymore...

he's not living up to the #9 pick but he has been solid this season...and for the ones that said so much *sh$t* about last season...

how many TD's did he give up? only 3-4

Taylor gave up? 11

and for a guy that sucks...91 total tackles for a corner?

how many touchdowns have u seen carlos save? I see one a game where he makes great open field tackles when he is the only one the reciever has to beat (he does this all the time)

He is going to be our #1 corner when springs goes down before long, so it's prolly better that you guys get use to him playing decently instead of hanging all over his back trying to find a lil thing on him to bash him about.

if you want to bash a guy why not Taylor last game, i saw a pretty big tackle he missed, I also so Burress beat him deep but he dropped it and had to wait for it a lil...i also saw Macklin get torched across the middle to the sideline but it was a drop ball.

Carlos missed a tackle, Burress could have been taken down again, by I forget who it was, but he wasn't. Atleast he isn't being torched.

How did he do going up against Kevin Curtis most the game since he has been pathetic this year....lets see, Curtis had no shot at anyball downfield the 3 or so times they tried. He went for a pick and gambled, but someone was right there to make the tackle,

I would just like to see some proof and "statistics" of him sucking a** this year. That would be great, thanks!
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but I don't recall a ton of passes being thrown in his direction in any of these games


From the Washington Times....

The problem: Rogers hasn't performed well enough to justify his current standing. And opponents know it.

Teams have unofficially thrown at Rogers 23 times in three games, completing 13 of those passes for 144 yards and two touchdowns, including Plaxico Burress' 33-yard game-winner on Sunday. Rogers has two penalties and two pass breakups.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070926/SPORTS01/109260090/1005/SPORTS&template=nextpage

Those numbers are pretty awful. Rogers is playing slightly better than last season but he still isn't very good.
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The article also says Rogers is the lone cornerback in Redskins 1 cornerback defensive formations. Isn't Sean Springs supposed to be the #1 cornerback?

If you throw out the 33 yard reception by Burress (which I do because Macklin also missed the tackle), the stats would be 12-22 which doesn't sound good. But the average of each reception against Rogers would only be for 9.25 yards. Not great either but not nearly as bad as this article makes it sound.
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GSPODS wrote:The article also says Rogers is the lone cornerback in Redskins 1 cornerback defensive formations. Isn't Sean Springs supposed to be the #1 cornerback?

If you throw out the 33 yard reception by Burress (which I do because Macklin also missed the tackle), the stats would be 12-22 which doesn't sound good. But the average of each reception against Rogers would only be for 9.25 yards. Not great either but not nearly as bad as this article makes it sound.
Only reason Rogers is at #1 is because,Springs time in D.C is going to be shorter than expected cause he not being with us next year.


So either way I think the starters are Rogers and Smoot which is dumb.
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I just got done watching the Giants game again, Rogers gave up 2 catches (out of 6 or 7)

the Buress TD, which he tried to pick off then looked like he changed his mind in the air....which caused him to miss the tackle, and Taylor got turned around when he could have made a tackle right after Carlos missed it.

The other catch was to Toomer for 2-3 yards.
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This is who you want the Redskins to sign:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3037398

FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- In another distraction for the Atlanta Falcons, Pro Bowl cornerback DeAngelo Hall said Wednesday he's been fined $100,000 and may be suspended for at least a quarter of the next game for his meltdown last week against the Carolina Panthers
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hmn, doesn't sound like a Joe Gibbs Guy.
#21 (36) This IS and will always be the High watermark where all new DB's are measured.


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SKINFAN wrote:hmn, doesn't sound like a Joe Gibbs Guy.


I think that this "Joe Gibbs guy" stuff is a crock. Don't mean to pick on your post but instead I'm referring to the comments that a lot of people make about the so-called "Joe Gibbs core player." Weren't Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark, and Lamar Marshall Gibbs-type players? Where are those guys now? The bottom line is that character is something that should be considered (for example you don't take Pacman Jones) but by far the most important thing is talent. If a guy like DeAngelo Hall is available and we can afford him then there is no reason why we shouldn't sign him. His trouble's against Steve Smith notwithstanding, the guy is one of the best cover corners in the NFL. He is a far better player than any of the corners that are currently on our roster. People rip TO and Moss as bad character non-Gibbs type players but their teams are a combined 6-0 this season. Corey Dillon was considered a bad character guy and he helped the Patriots win a Super Bowl. Same thing goes for Ray Lewis over in Baltimore. Talent is what matters most.
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lol. Apreciate that, but I posted the above as a mock to the "core redskin" mentality. IMO. Lavar gave everything he had to us, and he was a true redskin (to me). Yeah maybe he had a few debackles against coaches but he always said how he loved the fans and love the B&G. He wanted to have here what Ray Lewis has in Baltimore. Then this season it was Springs, he refused to give back money and it seemed like he got heat from it. "Core Redskin" has to work both ways IMO.

I'm sure it has some truth to this, but times have changed and we need to adapt. Although he might be a local boy, I don't think he will be available for us. I think JG needs to place a call to Dgreen, hire him as an "associate assistant coach - Defensive Backs".
#21 (36) This IS and will always be the High watermark where all new DB's are measured.


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Wasn't Lavar a problem child and injury prone? I thought he has a few ego issues with his tenure here. Forgive me if I'm wrong, I was in Germany and :puke: Texas while he was with the skins.
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VetSkinsFan wrote:Wasn't Lavar a problem child and injury prone? I thought he has a few ego issues with his tenure here. Forgive me if I'm wrong, I was in Germany and :puke: Texas while he was with the skins.


he also "gave" or "bought" his freedom, in which he could've been playing hardball and got his money anyway. Plus, he retired Aikman..
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