Suisham...is he the next Moseley, Lohmiller?

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:44 am

Too soon to tell, I know, but this kid shows promise. Moseley was great and so was Lohmiller. Let's hope Suisham does the same - he has big shoes to fill.......

Mark Moseley:

------------------+------------+
| Field Goals | PAT |
+----------+------------------+------------+--------+
| Year TM | Made ATT PCT | Made ATT | Points |
+----------+------------------+------------+--------+
| 1980 was | 18 33 54.5 | 27 30 | 81 |
| 1981 was | 19 30 63.3 | 38 42 | 95 |
| 1982 was | 20 21 95.2 | 16 19 | 76 |
| 1983 was | 33 47 70.2 | 62 63 | 161 |
| 1984 was | 24 31 77.4 | 48 51 | 120 |
| 1985 was | 22 34 64.7 | 31 33 | 97 |
| 1986 cle | 6 7 85.7 | 13 14 | 31 |
| 1986 was | 6 12 50.0 | 12 14 | 30 |
+----------+------------------+------------+--------+
| TOTAL | 148 215 68.8 | 247 266 | 691 |
+----------+------------------+------------+--------+

Chip Lohmiller:

+------------------+------------+
| Field Goals | PAT |
+----------+------------------+------------+--------+
| Year TM | Made ATT PCT | Made ATT | Points |
+----------+------------------+------------+--------+
| 1988 was | 19 26 73.1 | 40 41 | 97 |
| 1989 was | 29 40 72.5 | 41 41 | 128 |
| 1990 was | 30 40 75.0 | 41 41 | 131 |
| 1991 was | 31 43 72.1 | 56 56 | 149 |
| 1992 was | 30 40 75.0 | 30 30 | 120 |
| 1993 was | 16 28 57.1 | 24 26 | 72 |
| 1994 was | 20 28 71.4 | 30 32 | 90 |
| 1995 nor | 8 14 57.1 | 11 13 | 35 |
| 1996 stl | 21 25 84.0 | 28 29 | 91 |
+----------+------------------+------------+--------+
| TOTAL | 204 284 71.8 | 301 309 | 913 |
+----------+------------------+------------+--------+

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Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:50 am

No, he's not the next anybody.

Our next DB won't be Green.
Jason is not Williams.
Portis is not Riggins.
There will never be another set of Hogs.

It's not the 80's, it's almost 2008.

Swishy is a good kicker and that's all there is too it.

Skinna Mob · Post by **Skinna Mob** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:09 am

C'mon Chris... give the man some props... Suisham (Swish'em) is NICE, and will get better. I mean he could have easily choked last Sunday from 40 out.

DieselFan · Post by **DieselFan** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:16 am

I'm most surprised by Moseley's numbers....w/the exception of his 90% year... those stats just wouldn't cut it in today's game. Different era, I guess.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:22 am

Skinna Mob wrote:C'mon Chris... give the man some props... Suisham (Swish'em) is NICE, and will get better. I mean he could have easily choked last Sunday from 40 out.

Give him some props? Didn't I do that in my 1st post?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Swishy is a good kicker and that's all there is too it.

He's a good kicker but some of you set your feelings up to get hurt cus you wanna live in the past. We have a great line but everyone wants them to be the hogs and they aren't. There won't be another group of Hogs or anyone else for that matter. 1 day we might have a better group than the hogs but it wasn't just their success that made them the "hogs" it was attributes unique to them that nobody else can replicate.

I'm just tired of hearing about the past. His Swishy, not Moseley. They both have 2 syllables, take that and be happy.

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:24 am

I know that Suisham is a solid kicker and a great guy. I got a chance to speak to him a couple of times again this week... very nice young man.

Hopefully you can check out his comments this afternoon or tomorrow in my podcast.

You can also check out my article on Shaun from this week here:

http://www.the-hogs.net/content/index.php?id=975

It may be a little premature to be calling him Chip Lohmiller, but one thing's for sure... we're solid at kicker for the first time in a while. That was a money kick last week.

My 2 cents

BernieSki · Post by **BernieSki** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:29 am

Where did he compare him to the Hogs? I do not remember Chip or Mark being a member of the Hogs. All he is trying to say is that after many years it looks like we have found a good kicker worthy of being compared to some of our former better kickers. I tend to agree with him.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:37 am

BernieSki wrote:Where did he compare him to the Hogs? I do not remember Chip or Mark being a member of the Hogs. All he is trying to say is that after many years it looks like we have found a good kicker worthy of being compared to some of our former better kickers. I tend to agree with him.

Read my 1st post.

Redskins Rule · Post by **Redskins Rule** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:37 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Skinna Mob wrote:C'mon Chris... give the man some props... Suisham (Swish'em) is NICE, and will get better. I mean he could have easily choked last Sunday from 40 out.

Give him some props? Didn't I do that in my 1st post?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Swishy is a good kicker and that's all there is too it.

He's a good kicker but some of you set your feelings up to get hurt cus you wanna live in the past. We have a great line but everyone wants them to be the hogs and they aren't. There won't be another group of Hogs or anyone else for that matter. 1 day we might have a better group than the hogs but it wasn't just their success that made them the "hogs" it was attributes unique to them that nobody else can replicate.

I'm just tired of hearing about the past. His Swishy, not Moseley. They both have 2 syllables, take that and be happy.

And why shouldn't we think about the past? We have superbowls, we have championships, we had the best offensive line in the history of football, we have hall of fame players, and we have had some very good kickers.......................with all of that HOW CAN YOU NOT THINK ABOUT THE PAST!??!?!

You're to negative Chris.......you need to think positive.

GSPODS · Post by **GSPODS** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:39 am

BossHog wrote:I know that Suisham is a solid kicker and a great guy. I got a chance to speak to him a couple of times again this week... very nice young man.

Hopefully you can check out his comments this afternoon or tomorrow in my podcast.

You can also check out my article on Shaun from this week here:

http://www.the-hogs.net/content/index.php?id=975

It may be a little premature to be calling him Chip Lohmiller, but one thing's for sure... we're solid at kicker for the first time in a while. That was a money kick last week.

It would make sense to give the man more than a few games before we start nominating him the next Jan Stenerud. Opportunity will knock many more times. If he keeps answering the door that's all we can ask.

For anyone who's never attempted to kick field goals it's a hell of a lot more difficult than it looks. Missing the mark by 1 inch on the ball changes the direction of flight by 3 feet for every 10 yards the ball travels if there is no wind. It's not much of a wonder that kickers have no job security.

LOSTHOG · Post by **LOSTHOG** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:47 am

I have to agree with Chris on this one. The past is the past. it's ok to remember it fondly, but to compare every good player that comes along to someone of that era is not fair to either guy. Suisham is a good kicker. I love having a kicker that can kick field goals and drive the ball into the endzone on kickoffs. I'm not ready to say he is the next anybody. A kicker can totally lose it at any time. Just look at Vanderjerk.

Redskins Rule · Post by **Redskins Rule** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:48 am

For anyone who's never attempted to kick field goals it's a hell of a lot more difficult than it looks. Missing the mark by 1 inch on the ball changes the direction of flight by 3 feet for every 10 yards the ball travels if there is no wind. It's not much of a wonder that kickers have no job security.

Hey! I've kicked field goals before! I kicked what was an extra point! It was at the draft day party! It was pretty cool! I must say that I ended up shanking the 30 yarder one pretty badly......so I have to agree it is pretty hard, one lost split second of concentration is the difference for making it or screwing it all up! But it was still pretty cool!

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:53 am

LOSTHOG wrote:I have to agree with Chris on this one. The past is the past. it's ok to remember it fondly, but to compare every good player that comes along to someone of that era is not fair to either guy. Suisham is a good kicker. I love having a kicker that can kick field goals and drive the ball into the endzone on kickoffs. I'm not ready to say he is the next anybody. A kicker can totally lose it at any time. Just look at Vanderjerk.

Thank you, thank you for understanding. :lol:

Nobody is saying he stinks, he's just Swishy and not anyone else.

GSPODS · Post by **GSPODS** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:57 am

Redskins Rule wrote:
For anyone who's never attempted to kick field goals it's a hell of a lot more difficult than it looks. Missing the mark by 1 inch on the ball changes the direction of flight by 3 feet for every 10 yards the ball travels if there is no wind. It's not much of a wonder that kickers have no job security.

Hey! I've kicked field goals before! I kicked what was an extra point! It was at the draft day party! It was pretty cool! I must say that I ended up shanking the 30 yarder one pretty badly......so I have to agree it is pretty hard, one lost split second of concentration is the difference for making it or screwing it all up! But it was still pretty cool!

I'm sure you had more than 1.8 seconds to kick the ball and probably didn't have anyone running at you full speed in the process. Those uprights start to get pretty narrow from 40 yards away.

You obviously understand my point. Easy is not a word anyone who's done it would use to describe kicking field goals.

LOSTHOG · Post by **LOSTHOG** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:04 am

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/NFL/ ... 22-ap.html

The kid sounds like he is a lot of fun

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:56 pm

There's a better article up at www.nflcanada.com. :whistle:

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:06 pm

Redskins Rule wrote:I must say that I ended up shanking the 30 yarder one pretty badly......so I have to agree it is pretty hard, one lost split second of concentration is the difference for making it or screwing it all up! But it was still pretty cool!

Brutha. Those kicks at the draft day party were certainly not 30 yard kicks! Maybe 15 - 20 yards, max. I went 2-3 and I was pretty freakin' happy about it; however, it did make me appreciate more just how difficult it is to kick.

Sgraham · Post by **Sgraham** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:31 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:No, he's not the next anybody.

Our next DB won't be Green.
Jason is not Williams.
Portis is not Riggins.
There will never be another set of Hogs.

It's not the 80's, it's almost 2008.

Swishy is a good kicker and that's all there is too it.

You said it all. He just needs to be Suisham.

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:39 pm

I agree. You can bask in the past, we have a proud heritage to remember! But to compare our receivers to the posse or our line ot the Hogs or whatever comparison you wanna make at any GLIMPSE of hope really downplays the incredible people that are tagged with these names....

Redskins Rule · Post by **Redskins Rule** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:39 pm

Justice Hog wrote:
Redskins Rule wrote:I must say that I ended up shanking the 30 yarder one pretty badly......so I have to agree it is pretty hard, one lost split second of concentration is the difference for making it or screwing it all up! But it was still pretty cool!

Brutha. Those kicks at the draft day party were certainly not 30 yard kicks! Maybe 15 - 20 yards, max. I went 2-3 and I was pretty freakin' happy about it; however, it did make me appreciate more just how difficult it is to kick.

You might be right, but it did look like 30 yards when I kicked it.............It felt like it to!

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:57 pm

BossHog wrote:There's a better article up at www.nflcanada.com.

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:19 pm

Just be happy that we've got consistency now....let's sustain it.
Why was John Hall so loved? I didn't think he was all that....imho

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:13 pm

In pre-season down here in Nashville, I watched Suisham nail the left goal post on a 20 yrd chip shot, so I was nervous when he went for 40 but give him credit it was right down the middle when it counted most. Sweezum is the next Vinateri

Redskins Rule · Post by **Redskins Rule** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:33 pm

Gibbs4Life wrote:In pre-season down here in Nashville, I watched Suisham nail the left goal post on a 20 yrd chip shot, so I was nervous when he went for 40 but give him credit it was right down the middle when it counted most. Sweezum is the next Vinateri

What did some people talk about!!??!!? You can't compare Mosley to Suisham! You know Mosley missed some kicks but came through in the clutch too...................How can you possibly compare Mosley to Suisham!?!?!?!

Drink some more kool aid! It will help! :lol: