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hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:23 pm

p-rams passer rating..... 67.8 :hmm:

why the conservative approach during the second half?????now a total season avg of 78.77

why the bs game plan in the second half? "young" qb's avg a 52 rating and a 44% completion against bellycheck... ramsey was 67.8 but a miserable 45.45%

ideagirl · Post by **ideagirl** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:42 pm

P-ram; It's still Spurrier's learning curve on how to tuck away a 10 point lead and still make things happen, like force mistakes, juice up the crowd with agreesive Defense. At least this season, he has finally learned that running the ball is the key to a play-off berth. This is the difference between the 2002 Skins and the 2003 Skins.

Woo Hoo to everyone and Baby Patrick has got his sea legs now! They played like a very well-rounded team today. (exception, penalties).

IdeaGirl

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:49 pm

i have to admit, i'd rather see every guy on the team suffer in stats, and the team excell in the W's......

ideagirl · Post by **ideagirl** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 5:39 pm

Now you're talking, P-ram!

A Win, is a Win, is a Win, and until stats have a part in wild-card or play-off berth's, they're nice to chat about, as most of the time, numbers don't lie, but it's the scoreboard numbers that count.

Bring on da Squeagles......we owe 'em one in the city of brotherly love.....I use that term loosely, as they have the rudest fans I've ever met in the entire league. I predict we will ring their Liberty Bell and put yet another crack in it! Wooooo, I'm fired up. Better go for a run as it is a beautiful day here in Atlanta.

IG

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 7:20 pm

I agree....a win is a win is a win....but I'm also looking towards the future.

The Skins' play in the 2nd half is NOT what I want to see next week against divisional opponent Eagles.

Say what you want about the Eagles....but they're gonna be tough to be at "The Link". Hopefully, the Skins will come out strong offensively next week and pound it to 'em.

I liked what I saw in the first half today...but there was much to conservative (a la Norv) in the 2nd half. Hopefully, we'll see full offensive intensity for 60 minutes next week!

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 7:25 pm

I agree VH. I don't know that I agree with the "don't kick 'em while they are down" attitude. I like the runs, but even if you want to just short pass 'em to death, don't stop passing.

Not for the stats, but for the momentum, which we nearly handed completely to the Pats.

NC43Hog · Post by **NC43Hog** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 11:13 pm

This team has to learn how to put a team away.(thought we did when the bum call came on the Coles catch).

You let a team hang around by playing too conservative, before you know it they think they can actually win - then you are in real trouble.

Of course since we have been the team coming from behing every week, we haven't had any practise at holding a lead.

Hope we learn quick how to get ahead and bury the opponent.

3-1 still is mighty sweet!! :lol:

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:43 am

Damned if you do... damned if you don't.

While the end result made the decision seem suspect, personally i was glad to see the conservative approach. Like it or not, the Pats ran out of time. We ran enough time off of the clock, for them to not be able to get back into the game.

If Spurrier throws some incomplete passes and doesn't work the clock like he did... maybe that doesn't happen. Maybe it does, I don't know.

What I do know is that we beat a team that played well in the second half.

What I do know is that it was harder for Spurrier to watch than for anyone else.

What I do know is that we're 3-1 and I'm not going to gripe about not 'putting them away'

Geez folks... how about being satisfied with a win? The full transformation to 'good team' is going to take some time... but we're getting there, and the rest of the league is starting to take notice too.

At the end of the season, this game'll just be remembered as a W... because that's all that counts!!

Just my My 2 cents

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:04 am

True, Boss... I just hate to see em go almost completely run when the defense is expecting it. If they went play action and threw it 3-4 yards downfield, it could be as good as a run. Do it after a run or two and watch the LBs and safties freeze in their tracks. It would make running out the clock sooooo much easier

NC43Hog · Post by **NC43Hog** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:40 am

I Agree with both Rich and BossHog.

The Defense also plays a big part in putting teams away. As B. Smith said "When there's blood in the water, we ought to be on it like sharks." Don't give an inch!!!

If the offense can run every play and get 1st downs then awesome, but keeping the ball out of the opponents hands (and keeping our defense off the field and fresh) is key. It's harder to score if they don't have the ball

BossHog - "What I do know is that we're 3-1 and I'm not going to gripe about not 'putting them away" - that's cuz your young and have a full head of hair.

Maybe I should be "Aging Rapidly" Hog!

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:36 am

that's cuz your young and have a full head of hair

Don't be swayed by my youthful appearance... I've got 20 years of Redskin fandom under my belt, and I didn't start until I was a teenager. :-)

I totally agree that you'd like to keep the ball and we didn't... but we did manage to do just enough.

That's progress.

As I said, we're not there yet, but as our confidence builds, so will our taste for victory and our ability to put teams away when we have the opportunity.

Show mw a guy who thought we'd be 3-1 after 4 games, and I'll show you a liar (or a major homer).

redskinsmiley

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:48 pm

i messed up on the yearly rating yesterday. -drinking

it's a 90.5 for the the year.

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:54 pm

I would be lying if I said it Boss... I was figuring that we would be at BEST 2-2

I wasn't saying don't run... just throw it a little more even if they are short. Mix it up so defenses aren't getting what they expect so they can key on it.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:07 am

I hear all this talk but where are the other receivers at :?:

I mean we suppose to have a fast team and we are not utilizing all of our resources. I would like to see the OBC go for the kill, Hell everybody else does! My thing is if our defense is going to bend we are going to need a safe buffer zone. That means more 1st downs by all means.

One other thing our offense is not designed to control the clock. We had that last year. We are suppose to score and throw to more than 4 players compared to 9 thrown at by Tom-B. My 2 cents

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:39 am

Didn't we win?

newshog · Post by **newshog** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:54 am

Upon analysis, I don't think we can really fault Spurrier's play-calling once they were up 20-3. He actually ran it 8 times and attempted 7 passes--only 2 of which were completed. If they had been made, it would have been (and seemed like) a totally different ending. I don't think he really went into a shell--it was just that the only effective plays we did have were on the ground.

I for one am joining Boss and others in basking in our 3-1 standing ATOP THE NFC EAST. And I'm DEFINITELY looking forward to the game against the Eagles--I want to see us start clicking on all cylindars and bury 'em.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:28 pm

Im not with bossHog on sh!t :twisted:

I dont give a rats azz if we won or not we need to pump points on the board with a struggling defense!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

Yeah we won but since I must break it down for the one the only BH

We need the offense to help the Defense

Bottomline.

woohit56 · Post by **woohit56** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:38 pm

BossHog wrote:Didn't we win?

Everytime we can say this you really can pretty much forget about all else that happened on the field.

Yeah the penalties suck, yeah we need to improve still before the next 2 tough tough games.....however:

I'd rather jump offsides 1000 times and win instead of be Ladanian Tomlinson and rush for 180+ score my azz off and lose.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:50 pm

You have a point. We will get better. We have to get better. I read that Spurrier plans games in increments of 4. the goal of the team is not lose more than one. We will do fine but we need to seal our wins. We want be lucky every Sunday!!!!

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 6:38 pm

Redskincity - as a moderator, I have to ask you to tone it down a bit or move that stuff to the smack room. It is the rules and they have to be followed, ok?

I appreciate it.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 6:45 pm

Oh I am so so sorry Mr Moderator :lowblow:

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 6:58 pm

Ah well... ya can't please everyone now can ya

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 7:15 pm

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:15 am

we need to pump points on the board with a struggling defense

Yeah we won but since I must break it down for the one the only BH

We need the offense to help the Defense

Thanks for that, I appreciate it. I was struggling to understand how things worked.

So let me understand you... the first part of your post states that our defense is struggling. The second part says that our offense needs to help our defense.

Anything else I need to understand? Any other good advice for me? After all, you have gone out of your way to back your wonderful retorts with such solid football insight and perspective. We suck, we're lucky, and...

We're 3-1!!!

Whoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

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