Skins looking for WR help...

[Chris Luva Luva]

I'd take a chance on Rogers also. To bring in Rogers you won't upset the current depth chart. He's not a threat to anyone. Coach the guy up a bit, see if he's fully intact and maybe insert him into a game in a 4WR set by game 5... See what he does...

What could it hurt? He'll be cheap, he won't cost us a pick. There's nothing but good things in store for us if he works out, if he doesn't we don't lose out.

[Mursilis]

It all depends on what the other teams were looking for. Maybe they already have a tall guy and was looking for a Santana Moss type, and knew right away he wasn't that type of guy. Or maybe they were looking for a stand out T.O. type and could tell he wasn't that type of guy.

In his prime, Rogers was ALL types of receivers - a big, tall WR (6'3", 220), and a speed guy (4.28(!) 40 time at his draft combine). For whatever reason, it never worked out for him in the NFL.

[Mursilis]

I'd take a chance on Rogers also. To bring in Rogers you won't upset the current depth chart. He's not a threat to anyone. Coach the guy up a bit, see if he's fully intact and maybe insert him into a game in a 4WR set by game 5... See what he does...

What could it hurt? He'll be cheap, he won't cost us a pick. There's nothing but good things in store for us if he works out, if he doesn't we don't lose out.

That's something teams would/should do in the spring, when they have plenty of roster space. Lots of quality players have been found on the cuts/free agent scrap heap - Trent Green, Rich Gannon, Jeff Saturday. However, less than two weeks from the season opener is no time to take a flyer on a project who couldn't contribute right now. Even assuming Rogers has fixed whatever made 5 other teams reject him, he'd still have to learn the offense, etc., while taking up the roster spot of a player who likely contributed in other ways, like on special teams.

[BernieSki]

I do not think that we are looking for a guy to start right away, bring Rogers in and try and work with him ( he is still a young guy). The upside could be huge.

If we are looking for a guy to come in and start right away then I guess they will have to look around.

[Irn-Bru]

It all depends on what the other teams were looking for. Maybe they already have a tall guy and was looking for a Santana Moss type, and knew right away he wasn't that type of guy. Or maybe they were looking for a stand out T.O. type and could tell he wasn't that type of guy.

In his prime, Rogers was ALL types of receivers - a big, tall WR (6'3", 220), and a speed guy (4.28(!) 40 time at his draft combine). For whatever reason, it never worked out for him in the NFL.

I think he had Rod Gardner syndrome, which certainly didn't originate with Gardner but who is a convenient reference. Lots of talent; no work ethic. Breaking a collar-bone isn't a player's fault, but many of the injuries that keep these prime talents sidelined stem from a poor work ethic in the offseason, keeping the body in form so that it's strong enough not to get injured.

Rogers has so much physical talent that if he simply worked out he would make himself desirable for teams. My bet is that he coasted and therefore failed like so many others. I remember reading about how Maurice Clarett, who allegedly wanted to play in the NFL so bad, would go with a personal trainer to a track and field but wouldn't do what the trainer wanted him to. He'd plod around for an hour and then go home, thinking that he was set based on what he did at Ohio State.

Even though these guys deserve what is coming to them, I still feel sorry for them, because wasted potential is always a tragedy.

[Chris Luva Luva]

I'd take a chance on Rogers also. To bring in Rogers you won't upset the current depth chart. He's not a threat to anyone. Coach the guy up a bit, see if he's fully intact and maybe insert him into a game in a 4WR set by game 5... See what he does...

What could it hurt? He'll be cheap, he won't cost us a pick. There's nothing but good things in store for us if he works out, if he doesn't we don't lose out.

That's something teams would/should do in the spring, when they have plenty of roster space. Lots of quality players have been found on the cuts/free agent scrap heap - Trent Green, Rich Gannon, Jeff Saturday. However, less than two weeks from the season opener is no time to take a flyer on a project who couldn't contribute right now. Even assuming Rogers has fixed whatever made 5 other teams reject him, he'd still have to learn the offense, etc., while taking up the roster spot of a player who likely contributed in other ways, like on special teams.

I didn't take that into consideratoin. He should have been brought in earlier in the year, IMO. You are right.

[riggofan]

Hey Rod Gardner is available again!

This all seems kind of pointless really. I can't think of many players who get traded to a new team a week before the season and they have much impact. Sounds like a waste of a draft pick.

[Chris Luva Luva]

Hey Rod Gardner is available again!

This all seems kind of pointless really. I can't think of many players who get traded to a new team a week before the season and they have much impact. Sounds like a waste of a draft pick.

Rogers wouldn't cost us a pick.

If you're referring to Chambers, he's not a drop-aholic to my knowledge.

[Mursilis]

Hey Rod Gardner is available again!

This all seems kind of pointless really. I can't think of many players who get traded to a new team a week before the season and they have much impact. Sounds like a waste of a draft pick.

There's a few times it's worked for teams. Remember last year the Colts gave up a second early in the regular season for Anthony McFarland from Tampa. It worked for Indy because they were already a clear contender who felt they needed a little extra push on D to get over the top. A guy like a DT can come in and start right away if he's experienced at the pro level and his position isn't the most complicated on the field (like, say, QB). This isn't the sort of deal a front office wants to do on a frequent basis, but occasionally it's justified, and clearly no one in Indy is complaining about it now!

[num1skinsfan]

Offense will suffer with present # 2wr's (Loyd or Randle El), so we need something. Chambers has vetern presense and is proven, he would be worth the gamble, Williams or Gabriel would be a larger gamble but could pay off down the road. Whatever we do, let's do it now, offense will bog down with present corp, Loyd has been an "underachiever" at best so far. Ranle El is a far better producer on the field so far, he has earned his starting shot, but is he a 16 game guy? Loyd has had more than ample time to break the lineup, there is something up there....

[Fios]

I'm going to repeat this for fun: the Dolphins are NOT going to trade Chambers to their first regular season opponent at this point. And how is it a given that the current corps won't work? It's far too early to make that assumption

[Mursilis]

I'm going to repeat this for fun: the Dolphins are NOT going to trade Chambers to their first regular season opponent at this point.

I heard a rumor from a very reliable source (in other words, I just made it up) that Indy was looking to package Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne for whichever QB we were going to cut anyway (our choice). Apparently, they've got a need at the position. Thoughts? Should we do this deal?



















If one is going to entertain absurdity, might as well take it to the nth degree!

[Fios]

I'm going to repeat this for fun: the Dolphins are NOT going to trade Chambers to their first regular season opponent at this point.

I heard a rumor from a very reliable source (in other words, I just made it up) that Indy was looking to package Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne for whichever QB we were going to cut anyway (our choice). Apparently, they've got a need at the position. Thoughts? Should we do this deal?



















If one is going to entertain absurdity, might as well take it to the nth degree!

Len Pasquarelli is a sharp dresser, whose poignant and balanced articles contain no petty grievances! He is intelligent, respected and well liked by his peers! Women flock to him! This is neither a wig nor is it a dead cat!

[everydayAskinsday]

I'm going to repeat this for fun: the Dolphins are NOT going to trade Chambers to their first regular season opponent at this point.

I heard a rumor from a very reliable source (in other words, I just made it up) that Indy was looking to package Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne for whichever QB we were going to cut anyway (our choice). Apparently, they've got a need at the position. Thoughts? Should we do this deal?



















If one is going to entertain absurdity, might as well take it to the nth degree!

Len Pasquarelli is a sharp dresser, whose poignant and balanced articles contain no petty grievances! He is intelligent, respected and well liked by his peers! Women flock to him! This is neither a wig nor is it a dead cat!

hey its Don Vito.. i didnt know he covered football.. I just though he was Bams fat uncle

[1niksder]

I'm going to repeat this for fun: the Dolphins are NOT going to trade Chambers to their first regular season opponent at this point.

They say they're not trading him to anyone

[andyjens89]

Chris Chambers is 5'11" for those of you that didn't know.

[Fios]

Chris Chambers is 5'11" for those of you that didn't know.

Plus this part:

I'm going to repeat this for fun: the Dolphins are NOT going to trade Chambers to their first regular season opponent at this point.

They say they're not trading him to anyone

[1niksder]

Not another Bum! We dont need this Gabriel fella. I would take Chambers in a second though.

Chambers isn't on the market and would cost more than a money (his base salary is currently higher than Moss, Lloyd, ARE, and Thrash combined) to get him. I only mentioned 4 WR that are locks to make the team but the truth is his base is higher than all the recievers on the roster and the Skins would still have to give up a draft pick to get a guy that's dealing with off field issues

The Bum on the other hand is a street FA with a higher Avg YPC (15.3 - 14.1), two years younger and 3 inches taller.

The Skins brought in Tood Pinkston why not look at Doug Gabriel?
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[skinsfan#33]

I'm going to repeat this for fun: the Dolphins are NOT going to trade Chambers to their first regular season opponent at this point.

I heard a rumor from a very reliable source (in other words, I just made it up) that Indy was looking to package Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne for whichever QB we were going to cut anyway (our choice). Apparently, they've got a need at the position. Thoughts? Should we do this deal?



















If one is going to entertain absurdity, might as well take it to the nth degree!

Len Pasquarelli is a sharp dresser, whose poignant and balanced articles contain no petty grievances! He is intelligent, respected and well liked by his peers! Women flock to him! This is neither a wig nor is it a dead cat!

hey its Don Vito.. i didnt know he covered football.. I just though he was Bams fat uncle

I was thinking it looked like Bee Arthur!

[HEROHAMO]

Not another Bum! We dont need this Gabriel fella. I would take Chambers in a second though.

Chambers isn't on the market and would cost more than a money (his base salary is currently higher than Moss, Lloyd, ARE, and Thrash combined) to get him. I only mentioned 4 WR that are locks to make the team but the truth is his base is higher than all the recievers on the roster and the Skins would still have to give up a draft pick to get a guy that's dealing with off field issues

The Bum on the other hand is a street FA with a higher Avg YPC (15.3 - 14.1), two years younger and 3 inches taller.

The Skins brought in Tood Pinkston why not look at Doug Gabriel?

[/quote] Well this is what we were saying when we brought in Lloyd and ARE.

I just feel we should at least give Lloyd and ARE a chance to shine this season. Its Jason Campbells first full season under the helm. I want to at least see how they can do in there second season. Chances are one of these two can thrive either Lloyd or ARE. I am betting Lloyd will come through. I am iffy about ARE for has not shown me anything other than fancy trick plays and special teams ability.

J.C. , Lloyd and A.R.E have now been together for two years now. They have been studying the playbook so they should know it by now. They have been practicing together to get timing down. So they at least deserve one full season of playing together so we can fully evaluate them.

As far as Gabriel goes yeah if it does not break the bank to bring him in. Then why not? Its just another new player who has to learn the playbook right before the season starts. I wouldnt mind bringing him in and then grooming him for next season though. Have him come in every now and then like on third downs.

Todd Pinkston sucked. I never wanted him here. I am glad he is gone.

[HailSkins94]

The Dolphins have NO INTEREST in trading Chambers.

[Champsturf]

[ Its Jason Campbells first full season under the helm. .

That's just priceless. TY for the smile. I needed that. I had a bad day today.

[HardDawg]

We could only pray to get Chambers. I would out right pay him. But don't think we can. Oh well....... Come on BLloyd!