New Stadium

[skinsfano28]

Just heard on the John Riggins show that there are PRELIMINARY TALKS of building a new Redskins stadium in DC as opposed to Maryland. Riggins said that "the organization' has felt that FedEx was a mistake and having it so far away from any Metro stop was poor judgement on Jack Kent Cooke's part. THey also said that the only way the Skins would be allowed to build it is if Snyder paid for all of it, including the land.

Other notes:

-area around RFK is park land, however they may allow the Redskins to build over it.
-going to attempt to build a smaller soccer stadium for DC United on the other side of the Anacostia
-could use FedEx as a mall/residential area and use the revenue from that venture to fund the new stadium.

What are your thoughts about this? Do the redskns need a new stadium, just so that they can A)One up the cowgirls, and B) host a super bowl? that was how this whole discussion started on the John Riggins show.

[SkinsJock]

There is no need to build a new stadium for those 2 reasons but a new stadium that was better designed acoustically and with better access (both getting there and leaving!) and more fan friendly features should be considered.

I'm not sure that it needs to be as big as FedEx either

[JPM36]

Yes, build a new stadium in D.C. that makes the new Cowboys stadium look like crap.

That would be awesome.

[frankcal20]

That would be a lot of fun to see a new stadium. Being that I've only been to fedex, It doesn't compare to some of the other stadiums I've been to in the past. If you ever get a chance, check out North Carolina state's stadium. Its really awesome. Its no where near a pro stadium but its come a long way from where it was.

One thing I find funny is Snyder is on the technology commitee but his tv's and sound systems are outdated by far. He's worth ton's of money and throws it around, why not make the experience better for those you are making money off of.

[Snout]

A new stadium would be a waste of money. But if they build one, they need to do it right this time. They need the acoustics to be loud, and they need to construct it so that the field actually shakes when the fans go wild. That was one of the legendary natural features of RFK. I think with a little modern engineering help, they could build a stadium that could simulate an 5.0-6.0 earthquake. Is there any NFL rule against that?

[fistandantilus]

Since when is Snyder word about a waste of money ??!! He could pretty much do this new stadium at a break even deal. They have estimated that the property that fed-ex field is one is worth 750 million. It costed 250 milliion to build fed-ex fied in the first place. I think a new stadium is definately in line and would love for it to be back in Washington DC. !

[Chris Luva Luva]

A new stadium would be a waste of money. But if they build one, they need to do it right this time. They need the acoustics to be loud, and they need to construct it so that the field actually shakes when the fans go wild. That was one of the legendary natural features of RFK. I think with a little modern engineering help, they could build a stadium that could simulate an 5.0-6.0 earthquake. Is there any NFL rule against that?

In the short term? Yes. Long run? No.

If he builds a stadium in the nations capital best believe Danny is going to pull out all the tricks. Since it'll be in DC it'll have to be the best of the best. He's going to want the superbowl,the Olympics, birthday parties and anything else he can get in there.

I will be sad that it'll be in a dome.

[Fios]

Even a retractable dome?

[Redskins Rule]

I'd be all for a new stadium! But! Only if it has a retractable roof on it and there is a rule written in stone that the roof will only be closed for the superbowl!!! Redskins Football is made to be played in the mud, rain, sleet, whatever and they need to keep that tradition!

[riggofan]

Yeah we probably don't NEED a new stadium. But if one of the most profitable teams in all of sports wants to build a nicer place in the city, I'd be all for it. I can't stand Fedex field for all of the reasons listed above.

I will be really excited about DC United's new stadium as well.

[Chris Luva Luva]

I'd be all for a new stadium! But! Only if it has a retractable roof on it and there is a rule written in stone that the roof will only be closed for the superbowl!!! Redskins Football is made to be played in the mud, rain, sleet, whatever and they need to keep that tradition!

This is the only acceptable thing to happen.

[Peety]

I think we need a new stadium, Fedex field is big but outdated....Snyder should build one better than the Cowboys new stadium and make it with a rectactable roof....and make it hold 110,000.00 peolpe..Man, Fedex is big enough, but it is not luxurious....we need a top of the art and technology stadium....jejejeje

[skinsfan#33]

Yeah we probably don't NEED a new stadium. But if one of the most profitable teams in all of sports wants to build a nicer place in the city, I'd be all for it. I can't stand Fedex field for all of the reasons listed above.

I will be really excited about DC United's new stadium as well.

Fed ex is one of the reasons the Skins are the most profitable.

Fed ex subway situation is no worse than RFK's used to be.

Fed ex is easier to get to than RFK was

Fed ex is in DC as far as I'm concerned (anything inside the capitol beltway is DC to me. I don't care where the lines are)

But I miss the fact that you were right on top of the team at RFK. The stands at Fed ex are too far from the field and don't slope up at enough of an angle.

Engineer the stadium so that the the stadium produces two separate parbolic focal points for sound that are at each endzone, so that all the noise in the stadium is focused at the endzones.

Leave the ugly Fed ex colors off of the thing.

[BnGhog]

Question :

If they build a new stadium that hold like 10,000 more people, couldnt' they lower ticket prices by like 30 or 40 bucks and still make as much money???

That would be cool.

[BossHog]

Question :

If they build a new stadium that hold like 10,000 more people, couldnt' they lower ticket prices by like 30 or 40 bucks and still make as much money???

That would be cool.

You honestly think that if Snyder builds a new stadium that ticket prices will go down?

IMO, that's living a pipe dream. The fans are the ones that are going to get to pay for it. Let's see, we'll have...

$10 waters
$14 beers
$12 hot dogs
$125 per nose bleed seat
$1000 just for a season of parking.

That'll be wonderful.



Snyder put 20,000 extra seats into Fed Ex AFTER it had been built... he didn't seem to care much about the 'fan experience' when he was doing it... what on earth makes anyone think that it'd be part of the equation at a new stadium?

And how exactly do you 'shrink' a stadium's capacity when it's already jammed full of season ticket holders? There are actually two choices...

1) You don't. You build one equally as large or larger.
2) You whipe a bunch of them off the list by pricing them out of the stadium.

Soon, there won't be anything left but corporate accounts - you know - the ones who often sell their tickets to fans of other teams... or the ones that hang out INSIDE the Club level DURING a game.

All of that sounds just awesome for the 'fan experience'.

I was kind of under the impression that it really couldn't get much worse for the 'average fan' but I'm willing to bet that building a new stadium would have the potential to blow that theory right out of the water.

Can't wait.

[hailskins666]

Just heard on the John Riggins show that there are PRELIMINARY TALKS of building a new Redskins stadium in DC as opposed to Maryland. Riggins said that "the organization' has felt that FedEx was a mistake and having it so far away from any Metro stop was poor judgement on Jack Kent Cooke's part. THey also said that the only way the Skins would be allowed to build it is if Snyder paid for all of it, including the land.

this shouldn't be a problem, seeing how he has raped the average fan for every last cent.

(actually, thats only $.01 instead of $.02, snyder managed to get his greedy paws on the other penny)

[VRIEL1]

Go ahead and build it. Let's see.....he has to pay for it himself......lets translate for all...cost will be passed on to the customer ie: FANS. I will say that Fed Ex was built to accomodate more fans and be able to expand for more in the future. Funny how Fed Ex after being built was almost at max capacity. Yea they added what 20-30 thousand extra seats. wow.

[Mursilis]

Question :

If they build a new stadium that hold like 10,000 more people, couldnt' they lower ticket prices by like 30 or 40 bucks and still make as much money???

That would be cool.

You honestly think that if Snyder builds a new stadium that ticket prices will go down?

IMO, that's living a pipe dream. The fans are the ones that are going to get to pay for it. Let's see, we'll have...

$10 waters
$14 beers
$12 hot dogs
$125 per nose bleed seat
$1000 just for a season of parking.

That'll be wonderful.



Snyder put 20,000 extra seats into Fed Ex AFTER it had been built... he didn't seem to care much about the 'fan experience' when he was doing it... what on earth makes anyone think that it'd be part of the equation at a new stadium?

And how exactly do you 'shrink' a stadium's capacity when it's already jammed full of season ticket holders? There are actually two choices...

1) You don't. You build one equally as large or larger.
2) You whipe a bunch of them off the list by pricing them out of the stadium.

Soon, there won't be anything left but corporate accounts - you know - the ones who often sell their tickets to fans of other teams... or the ones that hang out INSIDE the Club level DURING a game.

All of that sounds just awesome for the 'fan experience'.

I was kind of under the impression that it really couldn't get much worse for the 'average fan' but I'm willing to bet that building a new stadium would have the potential to blow that theory right out of the water.

Can't wait.

As long as the games are still on TV, I don't care what happens regarding a new stadium, prices, etc. Watching the game surrounded by friends and family is a pretty good fan experience for me.

[gibbs4president]

I don't think the Redskins need a new stadium right now. A lot of people like to complain that they just don't like FedEx Field or where it's located.

I think much of the talk is centered around Dallas and the fact that Jerry Jones is about to build that 1 billion dollar facility. I don't think Snyder wants to be shown up in anything, especially by the Cowboys. Just a thought...

[cvillehog]

He wants to build a mall across the street from a vacant mall?

[DEHog]

I have a friend high up in the mayors’ office, they want the Redskins as much if not more than Snyder wants a new stadium. Don’t think for a second that Snyder won’t use this to pry funds from D.C. He’s has the upper hand here because he doesn’t need a new stadium. What a shame it would be to allocate funds to a stadium that is not needed, considering the state of the D.C. school system, police force and housing. The argument is that it would spark a revitalization of downtown and bring in funds…while I agree; I think there are more pressing matters…

As for Snyder …I think it would be a risk. The only reason he is selling tickets right now is Joe Gibbs. After the whole SS debacle season ticket holder were not renewing in record number. The waiting list had dip to the 30.000 level, unheard of for the Redskins. Snyder needs to prepare for the post Gibbs era more than he does for a new stadium. That being said if D.C. pony’s up some $$$$ I can see a new stadium happening and Boss is right…it will be the fans paying for the rest.

[HardDawg]

Agree with most that was said here. Would love a new stadium. FedEx Field is in DC. Vacant mall across from vacant mall! LOL... Fans don't like FedEx as much as RFK. And why is FedEx not really that loud. They said they set it up acoustically to be louder than RFK. That was a bust.

We need to keep the rain & mud. Retractable roof is the only way to go.

P.S. Anyone notice the difference in our winner percentage from RFK to FedEx?

P.S.S. Built it Danny boy!

P.S.S.S. Can't wait for the DC United stadium.

[Gibbs4Life]

You mean with all that pork the dems are putting into bills they can't throw the Skins a bone?

[cleg]

They need to be in the district, period.

[DarthMonk]

Fed ex is one of the reasons the Skins are the most profitable.

Perhaps ... though I could see someone arguing the 'Skins make what they do in spite of Fed Ex. I know naming rights bring in cash but so would a new place.

Fed ex subway situation is no worse than RFK's used to be.

It's much worse than it was at RFK. At RFK two stations let out a 3-minute walk away. There was just enough of a walk to buy peanuts, hats, etc. or even scalp a seat (for face!)

Fed ex is easier to get to than RFK was

No way. Then there's going home. Night and day.

Fed ex is in DC as far as I'm concerned (anything inside the capitol beltway is DC to me. I don't care where the lines are)

OK. Disagree but OK.

But I miss the fact that you were right on top of the team at RFK. The stands at Fed ex are too far from the field ...

Absolutely!

and don't slope up at enough of an angle.

More the closeness than the angle. RFK had an overhanging mezzanine and there was that awesome walkway all the way around. Any new stadium has to have the walkway. But it probably won't.

Engineer the stadium so that the the stadium produces two separate parbolic focal points for sound that are at each endzone, so that all the noise in the stadium is focused at the endzones.

A great idea. I've thought of almost the same thing before ... just thought of one ellipse rather than two parabolas. I think your two parabolas is an improvement on my ellipse idea. Thanks.

PS - If Marion Barry hadn't been caught smoking crack with a whore Cooke would have built with his own money in DC in the '80s.

DarthMonk