Portis doesn' t always have to have an opinion

Wanna talk about politics, your favorite hockey team... vegetarian recipes?
Post Reply
Cappster
cappster
cappster
Posts: 3014
youtube meble na wymiar Warszawa
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:25 am
Location: Humanist, at your service.

Post by Cappster »

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2879881

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Tuesday he was "extremely disappointed and embarrassed" by comments made by Washington Redskins running back Clinton Portis about dogfighting, The Washington Post reported.

On Monday, Portis, asked about the investigation into an alleged dogfighting ring at a home then owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, ridiculed authorities for pursuing possible charges. Tuesday, both Portis and Redskins offensive tackle Chris Samuels apologized for their comments, and the Redskins also apologized as an organization.

Goodell, in a written statement, criticized Portis' statements.


"I'm extremely disappointed and embarrassed for Clinton Portis," he said, according to the Post. "This does not reflect the sentiments of the Redskins, the NFL or NFL players."

During the interview on WAVY-TV in Norfolk, Va., Portis and Samuels giggled and laughed frequently as they defended Vick, who has been under investigation since a police raid at one of his houses discovered dozens of dogs and items associated with dog fighting. No charges have been filed.


"I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not," Portis said in the interview. "But it's his property; it's his dogs. If that's what he wants to do, do it."


Portis, a native of Laurel, Miss., added: "I know a lot of back roads that got a dog fight if you want to go see it. But they're not bothering those people because those people are not big names. I'm sure there's some police got some dogs that are fighting them, some judges got dogs and everything else."


In the segment, Portis said that Vick would be put "behind bars for no reason" if the Atlanta Falcons quarterback were charged and convicted for dog fighting. Samuels laughed during much of the interview.


"The Washington Redskins, as an organization, obviously would never condone anything related to animal cruelty," the team's statement said Tuesday. "The team takes the recent comments of Clinton Portis very seriously and apologizes to everyone that was offended."


It was the second statement in two days from the Redskins over the dog fighting flap. Late Monday, the team released a statement on behalf of Portis in which the running back said: "I want to make it clear I do not take part in dog fighting or condone dog fighting in any manner."



I agree that Portis made a mistake and shouldn't have made those comments. I don't agree with how a lot of people are crying over his comments. We all say some things that we shouldn't have said but thanks to the media, they keep replaying CP's comments over and over again because they have nothing better to report. By the time mini-camp starts, this will be a forgotten issue. People are tooooooo darn sensitive nowadays!!!!!!
Sapphire AMD Radeon R9 280x, FTW!

Hog Bowl II Champion (2010)
PulpExposure
Pushing Paper
Pushing Paper
Posts: 4860
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:01 pm

Post by PulpExposure »

SkinsFreak wrote:Every weekend, ESPN 2 has hunting shows on all morning long. I now have to skip over that station when my daughters are around, because when they happened to see it one time, I had to spend hours consoling them for what they'd seen on ESPN. Animals die on every episode they air. Are folks up in arms about that?


There's a difference (at least to me), Skins.

Hunting is legal. Dogfighting is not.

Oh and a lot of people do complain about hunting...
User avatar
BnGhog
Hog
Posts: 1553
Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:23 pm
Location: Danville VA

Post by BnGhog »

Does everyone out there think the media is honest and always show the entire truth.

Does any one notice how they start off with way over the top "Portis Defends Mike Vick"

And how they allways cut the video right after the statement "If that's what he wants to do, do it."

Does any body at all know what was said in the entire interview?? He could have come back and said Im kidding, Or something. I never listen to the media. It's just like the soldiers overseas. They don't show the whole story.
I firmly believe the Patriots are the antichrist.
SkinsFreak
Fire in the Sky
Fire in the Sky
Posts: 4730
Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:31 am
Location: Surfside
Contact:

Post by SkinsFreak »

PulpExposure wrote:
SkinsFreak wrote:Every weekend, ESPN 2 has hunting shows on all morning long. I now have to skip over that station when my daughters are around, because when they happened to see it one time, I had to spend hours consoling them for what they'd seen on ESPN. Animals die on every episode they air. Are folks up in arms about that?


There's a difference (at least to me), Skins.

Hunting is legal. Dogfighting is not.

Oh and a lot of people do complain about hunting...


Oh, agreed, but it's pretty difficult to explain that to a four year old who just watched Bambi and then watched a... well nevermind, you get the picture.

But I was just expanding on what CLL had said, and I agree with it to a certain extent, and that was...

CLL wrote:ESPN hates dog fighting but praises other sports that involve certain levels of abuse of animals.


...as well as the killing of animals for sport and mere enjoyment. I don't really have a problem with hunting, but when the word "sport" is attached, I find that to be humorous, as if it's some form of competition. And the reaction these guys have when they make a kill is down right ridicules, to me anyway. And ESPN broadcasts "sports". $.02
SkinsFreak
Fire in the Sky
Fire in the Sky
Posts: 4730
Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:31 am
Location: Surfside
Contact:

Post by SkinsFreak »

BTW - ESPN covered the story again today on NFL Live. And again, they specifically bashed Portis for his original comments, yet no mention whatsoever, of Portis' subsequent explanation and clarification on the matter. Nor did they mention or show Chris Samuels videotaped apology for the jokes. So don't think for a minute there's not a media bias, because they know these taped explanations and apologies exist, yet they purposefully refused to show them.
User avatar
skinsfano28
Hog
Posts: 698
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:50 pm

Post by skinsfano28 »

roger goodell is extremely disappointed in and embarrassed for clinton portis, and his comments in no way are the actual opinion of anyoen in the NFL.
Sean, may you always rest in peace and look down on us with the same love that we look up to you.

Hail to the Redskins!
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

The biggest news regarding Portis is that he is back in Miami and not required to attend the mandatory mini camp b/c of personal reasons. Thats huge news. I would have reported it also.
Redskin in Canada
~~~~~~
~~~~~~
Posts: 10323
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:59 am
Location: Canada

Post by Redskin in Canada »

Did anybody write that the power of this issue was being underestimated by Portis and some posters here?

Did anybody predict that a SPIN would become necessary beyond a certain point of negative publicity?

Did anybody predict that the Commissioner would intervene?

Did anybody predict that the media would have field day against not only Portis but the organization?

I do not know. I tend to forget. Not rocket science anyway. 8-[

Oh! Now I seem to remember! Somebody seem to have predicted that Clinton would have to lay RRRREEEEEALLY low for a while.

I hear the weather in Florida is a bit nicer there this time of year. :lol:
Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
John Manfreda
Hog
Posts: 2078
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:52 pm
Location: none
Contact:

Post by John Manfreda »

Portis is a jerk, I hope he breaks his collar bone again. I have seen animals without jaws because of dog fighting. I hope Vick tears his ACL. I don't want to hear exscuses its common sense not to say what he said.
John Manfreda
Hog
Posts: 2078
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:52 pm
Location: none
Contact:

Post by John Manfreda »

Redskin in Canada wrote:Did anybody write that the power of this issue was being underestimated by Portis and some posters here?

Did anybody predict that a SPIN would become necessary beyond a certain point of negative publicity?

Did anybody predict that the Commissioner would intervene?

Did anybody predict that the media would have field day against not only Portis but the organization?

I do not know. I tend to forget. Not rocket science anyway. 8-[

Oh! Now I seem to remember! Somebody seem to have predicted that Clinton would have to lay RRRREEEEEALLY low for a while.

I hear the weather in Florida is a bit nicer there this time of year. :lol:

In what context is it okay to say if you want to have dog fights do it. Or its his dogs, his property he can do what he wants with it. You can't put that out of context.
Fios
The Evil Straw
The Evil Straw
Posts: 8135
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:30 pm
Location: Leather Chair
Contact:

Post by Fios »

RIP Sean Taylor
Redskin in Canada
~~~~~~
~~~~~~
Posts: 10323
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:59 am
Location: Canada

Post by Redskin in Canada »

John Manfreda wrote:In what context is it okay to say if you want to have dog fights do it. Or its his dogs, his property he can do what he wants with it. You can't put that out of context.

You obviously did not read all the posts in this thread, particularly mine. :!:
Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
Fios
The Evil Straw
The Evil Straw
Posts: 8135
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:30 pm
Location: Leather Chair
Contact:

Post by Fios »

RIP Sean Taylor
COZ
piggie
Posts: 129
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:04 am
Location: Baltimore (Raisin country - YUCK!)

Post by COZ »

John Manfreda wrote:Portis is a jerk, I hope he breaks his collar bone again. I have seen animals without jaws because of dog fighting. I hope Vick tears his ACL. I don't want to hear exscuses its common sense not to say what he said.


John - gotta agree with you here. Portis is a JERK and his comments were stupid and disgusting. I too hope he blows out something big time - perferably on the 1st play of the game. Bring in Betts and let him run while Portis becomes a footnote in the abysmal history of the Skins during the past decade.

His comments just re-affirm my decision not to renew my tickets this year. The Skins won't get anymore of my money. After 10 years of lame football, lame coaching (Gibbs is done), lame ownership, lame players with lame attitudes, etc... I am done with giving the Skins my money.

Portis's comments are akin to condoning child porno, wife beating, drunk driving, etc... Meaning, there is no redeeming value for these things and no one should be on board with it.

I'll always be a Skins fan in some sense but I'm not drinking the koolaid like many on this board who still claim Gibbs is GOD.
COZ
Hail on the 'Skins!
Fan faithful - Section 312
Chris Luva Luva
---
---
Posts: 18887
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:55 pm
Location: AJT
Contact:

Post by Chris Luva Luva »

COZ wrote:
John Manfreda wrote:Portis is a jerk, I hope he breaks his collar bone again. I have seen animals without jaws because of dog fighting. I hope Vick tears his ACL. I don't want to hear exscuses its common sense not to say what he said.


John - gotta agree with you here. Portis is a JERK and his comments were stupid and disgusting. I too hope he blows out something big time - perferably on the 1st play of the game. Bring in Betts and let him run while Portis becomes a footnote in the abysmal history of the Skins during the past decade.

His comments just re-affirm my decision not to renew my tickets this year. The Skins won't get anymore of my money. After 10 years of lame football, lame coaching (Gibbs is done), lame ownership, lame players with lame attitudes, etc... I am done with giving the Skins my money.

Portis's comments are akin to condoning child porno, wife beating, drunk driving, etc... Meaning, there is no redeeming value for these things and no one should be on board with it.

I'll always be a Skins fan in some sense but I'm not drinking the koolaid like many on this board who still claim Gibbs is GOD.


:roll:

I think you wishing harm on anyone is just as disgusting as those who fight animals.
BossHog
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 9375
Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:34 am
Location: London, Ontario
Contact:

Post by BossHog »

COZ wrote:John - gotta agree with you here. Portis is a JERK and his comments were stupid and disgusting. I too hope he blows out something big time - perferably on the 1st play of the game.


... and hoping someone gets hurt ISN'T 'stupid and disgusting'?

I agree with your original sentiment about it being stupid, but to wish harm on anyone is ridiculous.

Obviously your angst with the Redskins has to do with a lot more than just CP's comments, so why pin them to the incident?

I'm not saying for one second that you aren't entitled to feel the way you do about all of the other reasons that you cited - but doesn't wishing harm on someone make you equally as guilty of disgusting stupidity?

I've made it very clear that I personally don't agree with how CP went about this, but wishing harm on the guy would never even enter my head. That's just childish rhetoric centered around grotesquely exagerrating a point... basically the EXACT same thing that CP is guilty of.
Sean Taylor was one of a kind, may he rest in peace.
JansenFan
and Jackson
and Jackson
Posts: 8387
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:37 am
Location: Charles Town, WV
Contact:

Post by JansenFan »

Besides, Portis' footnote will say he had the most single-season rushing yards of any running back in team history.

If I have to be known as a footnote, I'll take that one.
RIP 21

"Nah, I trust the laws of nature to stay constant. I don't pray that the sun will rise tomorrow, and I don't need to pray that someone will beat the Cowboys in the playoffs." - Irn-Bru
DEHog
Diesel
Diesel
Posts: 7425
Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:03 pm
Location: FedEx Field
Contact:

Post by DEHog »

Is what he said stupid and out of line?YES!
The only thing that could be more stupid is wishing an injury on the person who said it!!
"Sean Taylor is hands down the best athlete I've ever coached it's not even close" Gregg Williams 2005 Mini-Camp
COZ
piggie
Posts: 129
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:04 am
Location: Baltimore (Raisin country - YUCK!)

Post by COZ »

BossHog wrote:
COZ wrote:John - gotta agree with you here. Portis is a JERK and his comments were stupid and disgusting. I too hope he blows out something big time - perferably on the 1st play of the game.


... and hoping someone gets hurt ISN'T 'stupid and disgusting'?

I agree with your original sentiment about it being stupid, but to wish harm on anyone is ridiculous.

Obviously your angst with the Redskins has to do with a lot more than just CP's comments, so why pin them to the incident?

I'm not saying for one second that you aren't entitled to feel the way you do about all of the other reasons that you cited - but doesn't wishing harm on someone make you equally as guilty of disgusting stupidity?

I've made it very clear that I personally don't agree with how CP went about this, but wishing harm on the guy would never even enter my head. That's just childish rhetoric centered around grotesquely exagerrating a point... basically the EXACT same thing that CP is guilty of.


Ok I'll say it another way. I hope a more deserving person (Betts) gets the call instead of a fool like Portis. However, since we aren't going to trade Portis the only way I see Betts getting the rock is if Portis is injured but a year long suspension for his words would work as well.

Now what would be really prefect would be if Portis tripped over a dog and blew out a knee - that would be karma at it's finest. And sorry BH - I am a huge animal rights advocate (Not PETA crazy) and CP's comments cause harm because people (ie young people) think what he says has truth and impact.

What would you think if Portis had said wife beating is ok or US soldiers deserve to die in Irag or America deserved 9/11 or child porno hurts no one? It's all in what you believe in and I believe in animal rights and since Portis stepped up and basically stated dogs don't count then I believe he doesn't count....

I do understand what you are trying to say but fools like Portis don't deserve my respect.
COZ
Hail on the 'Skins!
Fan faithful - Section 312
DEHog
Diesel
Diesel
Posts: 7425
Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:03 pm
Location: FedEx Field
Contact:

Post by DEHog »

If the NFL suspensed player for stupid comment, half the players would be out! I didn't see this much outrage on Imus' comments and that was about people!
"Sean Taylor is hands down the best athlete I've ever coached it's not even close" Gregg Williams 2005 Mini-Camp
Irn-Bru
FanFromAnnapolis
FanFromAnnapolis
Posts: 12025
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:01 pm
Location: on the bandwagon
Contact:

Post by Irn-Bru »

COZ wrote:It's all in what you believe in and I believe in animal rights and since Portis stepped up and basically stated dogs don't count then I believe he doesn't count....


I don't think animals have the same rights as humans, so I guess that means (by the same logic) that I have no rights.

Any and everyone that eats meat or drinks milk that cows didn't consent to giving falls into the same category. . .

The same goes for anyone living in a house that was constructed over a plot of land where worms were living before being mercilessly crushed. What would we think if there had been children living there, who instead were crushed?


(CLL and his flyswatter, too. No more rights for him. :twisted:)
COZ
piggie
Posts: 129
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:04 am
Location: Baltimore (Raisin country - YUCK!)

Post by COZ »

DEHog wrote:If the NFL suspensed player for stupid comment, half the players would be out! I didn't see this much outrage on Imus' comments and that was about people!


I think that's because people can defend themselves and animals can't. Rutgers BB can hold a news conference and state the obvious. An animal can't do that.... That and the fact that Imus's comments didn't advocate or condone a negative act and Porti's does.... Plus Imus is a shock jock and stupidity is somewhat expected since it's his "job" to comment on current events. Portis's job is to play ball. Not condoning Imus - just stating you are not comparing apples to apples.
COZ
Hail on the 'Skins!
Fan faithful - Section 312
SkinsFreak
Fire in the Sky
Fire in the Sky
Posts: 4730
Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:31 am
Location: Surfside
Contact:

Post by SkinsFreak »

Rosenhaus, speaking at a Charlotte Touchdown Club luncheon, said he talked to Portis about it.

“He said, ‘Drew, I didn’t mean for the way that came out. All I was saying, I wasn’t condoning dog fighting. I wasn’t condoning Michael Vick’s conduct. All I was saying is that people should give him the benefit of the doubt until he’s been charged or found guilty,” Rosenhaus said.

The agent then immediately began a public relations campaign to clear Portis’ name.

“I like the fact that Clinton stood up for another athlete, but I want to clarify that he in no way, shape or form condones dog fighting or any type of illegal activity,” Rosenhaus said. “I spent the last day or so with Clinton trying to get that message out.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18829236/

There's no doubt that Portis chose the wrong words in the interview. He made a mistake and went on record to clarify those initial statements. He was just trying to take a shot at the media but it came out wrong. I know what he was trying to say, and it wasn't that he condones dog fighting.

If ANYONE still thinks Portis is a fan of dog fighting and advocates animal cruelty, than you are an ignorant fool, and so is anyone else who still believes it. Get over it, people, he's set the record straight.

Tell me you've never made a mistake or chose the wrong words before in your lifetime. :roll:

I can't believe somebody would wish harm on some one else for false or unjustified reasons. That is the most immature and ridicules thing I've ever read. The Redskins don't need or want fans like that. :roll:
SkinsFreak
Fire in the Sky
Fire in the Sky
Posts: 4730
Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:31 am
Location: Surfside
Contact:

Post by SkinsFreak »

Hey COZ, do you honestly still think Portis is a fan of dog fighting and animal cruelty?
DEHog
Diesel
Diesel
Posts: 7425
Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:03 pm
Location: FedEx Field
Contact:

Post by DEHog »

COZ wrote:
DEHog wrote:If the NFL suspensed player for stupid comment, half the players would be out! I didn't see this much outrage on Imus' comments and that was about people!


I think that's because people can defend themselves and animals can't. Rutgers BB can hold a news conference and state the obvious. An animal can't do that.... That and the fact that Imus's comments didn't advocate or condone a negative act and Porti's does.... Plus Imus is a shock jock and stupidity is somewhat expected since it's his "job" to comment on current events. Portis's job is to play ball. Not condoning Imus - just stating you are not comparing apples to apples.



I was comparing stupid comments to stupid comments... I don't believe either man believes what they said.
"Sean Taylor is hands down the best athlete I've ever coached it's not even close" Gregg Williams 2005 Mini-Camp
Post Reply