Whats your thoughts on the QB situation?

[frankcal20]

I've been doing a lot of thinking about our QB situation and I have to say that I am a bit nervous. Jason Campbell has been given the keys to the city but in all honesty, he hasn't led us to victories. I know, I know, he needs the opportunity but this will be his year and I look forward to watching him play.

What do we do with the other two though? Mark Brunell is coming off a major shoulder surgery. Todd Collins lacks game experience and I'm sure because of that, the term "Rusty" is an understatement considering his age. If it were me, I would have to say good bye to Brunell. I just think the lack of durability as well as his age makes him expendable. From a business standpoint, this is the only logical way to go.

NFL Draft and UFA's - I think that it would be nice to have a guy come in that is a rookie that can sit back and learn but with our situation, I don't think we can do that at this time. We need a veteran who has shown the ability to come in and make plays. I would be open minded to bringing back a guy like Tim Hasselbeck (if available) to come in and work. I think that if Campbell does go down, Collins is not the answer even though he may be all we've got. Also, I'm not sure he would necessarily be the one Gibbs would have stay. Gibbs' undying loyalty to Brunell probably makes Collins the odd man out.

Let me know your thoughts.

[HardDawg]

Collins is horrible. The only thing good about Hasselbeck is his wife. Brunell paid his dues and should play backup til we get a better one. Palmer kids looking better after a lil research on the kid. And who knows what could happen in the offseason.

[HailSkins2007]

I can agree. I for some reason really liked Burnell. I just thought he did what he needed to do. I might have been the only one at the Giants at Skins game not Booing him. But I think Campbell is really good.

[lowtharofthehill]

Brunell can manage games and can win them if there is a defense... the offense gets a bye for last year because the defense blew so much...the thing about the league is that your season is fairly over if your starting QB goes out for the year...the best you can hope for is that a young gun steps up or a wirery veteran like Brunell can come in and win games by relying on defense and run...thats the situation we have...i couldnt feel better with it, and with Palmer waiting in Camp training and learning...he has all the physical skills to play just needs to learn to make better decisions.

[frankcal20]

My understanding is that Palmer has two area's that go against him; Time playing football (5 years) and lack of mobility. Either way, if Campbell stays healthy then we are ok. If not, we better hope Brunell is 100% healthy.

[Englands Team]

I like the Palmer pick. He has thrown a lot of balls. Granted many of them were INTs by last year he cut that right down. He has all the physical atributes needed to be a pocket passer, I don't know I just think if he is intelligent enough to master the Offence he could be a good player.

[Wheat]

I doubt they keep both Brunell and Collins this season. My guess is Collins is a goner, with Bramlet/Palmer fighting it out for the #3 gig, the loser will land on the practice squad.

[PulpExposure]

I would be open minded to bringing back a guy like Tim Hasselbeck (if available) to come in and work.

I guess you forgot that nice 0.0 passer rating game?

[Wheat]

I would be open minded to bringing back a guy like Tim Hasselbeck (if available) to come in and work.

I guess you forgot that nice 0.0 passer rating game?

I'd rather keep a Vet at #2, and have a long term project guy at #3.

[everydayAskinsday]

I'm under the impression that Collins will be gone.. He wants a chance to at least be a back up at this point in his career not a 3rd stringer who on most teams in inactive for the game.. He will most likely move on and try and land a gig doing that.. Brunell will be the Back-up and either Palmer or Bramlet will hold the clipboard.. my guess is it will be Bramlet if he gains the experience needed playing in NFL europe

hows he doing out there by the way? I saw his stats for his 1st game but havent heard of anything since

[frankcal20]

He went 12/21 for 237 1td 1 int long of 51 passer rating of 92.8. One run for 7 yards.

[Peety]

I think Collins days are counted in the Redkins organization, his is getting too old and has no experience so I am in favor of letting him go. As far as Bramlet I think is his name, the NFL Europa, I dont think he has a future in the NFL either. That is why I was ok drafting Palmer, he comes from a passing oriented team, which helps developing quaterbacks fatser because they already have a background. I think Palmer has a chance so I would him after Brunell in our dept chart. Palmer has a good Arm and he is accurate, no mobility, but that is ok.

[riggofan]

I don't know, but I can't wait to see Jason Campbell play this year. He's a quality, first round pick who has been groomed the right way. I feel really good about it.

[The Hogster]

I don't think we can let Brunell go. If Campbell goes down we would need a vet who can step in and have at least some chemistry/timing/experience with our wideouts. Collins doesn't have that. I would actually elevate Palmer to 3rd QB..keep Brunell this year, and go with that group.

If two or three years from now its clear that Campbell is not the answer, then we would have a young QB who could step in and start.

I happen to thnk that Campbell will end up being a great QB..

[Justice Hog]

I guess we can always bring Trent Green back to D.C. and get rid of Brunell!

[everydayAskinsday]

I think Collins days are counted in the Redkins organization, his is getting too old and has no experience so I am in favor of letting him go. As far as Bramlet I think is his name, the NFL Europa, I dont think he has a future in the NFL either. That is why I was ok drafting Palmer, he comes from a passing oriented team, which helps developing quaterbacks fatser because they already have a background. I think Palmer has a chance so I would him after Brunell in our dept chart. Palmer has a good Arm and he is accurate, no mobility, but that is ok.

actually alot of the QB's that come out of college that put of big numbers because they came from passing oriented teams are products of the system they dont actually have the talent to make it in the NFL.. look at the QB's from Cal.. Houston.. and many more

[roybus14]

Also keep an eye on Bramlet whose is playing in NFL Europe right now. I watched one of his games on NFL Network and he didn't do to bad. I know the competition ain't what it is here but it's still pro competition or guys good enough to be called up to their NFL team.

[KazooSkinsFan]

I've been doing a lot of thinking about our QB situation and I have to say that I am a bit nervous. Jason Campbell has been given the keys to the city but in all honesty, he hasn't led us to victories. I know, I know, he needs the opportunity but this will be his year and I look forward to watching him play.

What do we do with the other two though? Mark Brunell is coming off a major shoulder surgery. Todd Collins lacks game experience and I'm sure because of that, the term "Rusty" is an understatement considering his age. If it were me, I would have to say good bye to Brunell. I just think the lack of durability as well as his age makes him expendable. From a business standpoint, this is the only logical way to go.

NFL Draft and UFA's - I think that it would be nice to have a guy come in that is a rookie that can sit back and learn but with our situation, I don't think we can do that at this time. We need a veteran who has shown the ability to come in and make plays. I would be open minded to bringing back a guy like Tim Hasselbeck (if available) to come in and work. I think that if Campbell does go down, Collins is not the answer even though he may be all we've got. Also, I'm not sure he would necessarily be the one Gibbs would have stay. Gibbs' undying loyalty to Brunell probably makes Collins the odd man out.

Let me know your thoughts.

I read the discussion, but I think you nailed it in the original post, it's a nervous situation. JC is promising but we have no reason to know he won't be the next Ramsey and behind him we have nobody who's going to take us anywhere. If he's a bust I think the season will be and we'll be scrambling next off season. Maybe addressing it with another high #1 pick. I don't think there is any realistic backup plan this year for him sucking (or getting injured). There is only a plan for tutoring him, maybe finishing a game if he is roughed up and doing the scrub up. There is JC then a cliff. And nothing will change in that regard this year.

[Mursilis]

JC is promising but we have no reason to know he won't be the next Ramsey and behind him we have nobody who's going to take us anywhere. If he's a bust I think the season will be and we'll be scrambling next off season. Maybe addressing it with another high #1 pick.

He'd have to be pretty awful not to get more than one full season on the field to establish himself as the long-term starter. Last year he didn't even get half the season. Most of the highly-drafted young QBs who've flamed out have at least been given more than one full season to prove themselves - I'm thinking here of Boller, Harrington, and Carr, and guys still on the hotseat, like Losman, Grossman, and E. Manning. Heck, San Diego had already drafted Drew Brees' replacement when he finally broke through to the next level, in his 3rd(!) season as the starter (4th in the league). I hope JC gets a decent shot, and doesn't give the team any reason whatsoever to get out the hook. He should get at least the next two seasons, unless he's either injured or just flat out incompetent, which he hasn't been so far.

[KazooSkinsFan]

JC is promising but we have no reason to know he won't be the next Ramsey and behind him we have nobody who's going to take us anywhere. If he's a bust I think the season will be and we'll be scrambling next off season. Maybe addressing it with another high #1 pick.

He'd have to be pretty awful not to get more than one full season on the field to establish himself as the long-term starter. Last year he didn't even get half the season. Most of the highly-drafted young QBs who've flamed out have at least been given more than one full season to prove themselves - I'm thinking here of Boller, Harrington, and Carr, and guys still on the hotseat, like Losman, Grossman, and E. Manning. Heck, San Diego had already drafted Drew Brees' replacement when he finally broke through to the next level, in his 3rd(!) season as the starter (4th in the league). I hope JC gets a decent shot, and doesn't give the team any reason whatsoever to get out the hook. He should get at least the next two seasons, unless he's either injured or just flat out incompetent, which he hasn't been so far.

I agree with you and I'm high on him personally. I was just addressing "if" he is a bust or "if" he gets injured.

[VRIEL1]

I'm sure the Skins coaches are thinking lets try to get some youth at this position. Brunell is what 36 and Collins is what 37? anyway I'm thinking they want some youth. They need to start grooming someone for after Jason. or atleast in case Jason gets hurt. I have a feeling Brunell will stay because he has payed his dues and I bet Gibbs promised him a ring. Collins simply can't play. I know we only saw preseason but he has what 12 games he started through out his whole career? not good. Even most journey men have better stats then him. I bet we lose him an Casey is our third 'cause he has some knowledge of the system and we keep one of the newbees for the practice squad.

[welch]

Goodbye, Collins.

[KazooSkinsFan]

Goodbye, Collins.

I'm with you, it's hard to imagine why we want a young starter backed up by TWO grizzled vets. Last year, OK, Collins knew Saunders offense and could tutor in the system. But I prefer between them Brunell as mentor and scrub artist and we should be looking to the future.

[welch]

Kazoo wrote

I'm with you, it's hard to imagine why we want a young starter backed up by TWO grizzled vets.

Exactly. Why have Collins as backup, when he has never been anything. Brunell was a star, did well in 2005 here.

Train the kid. If he can't do the job, draft another. Jay Schoeder was a 3rd round pick, Ryien was about 4 or 5, and Stan Humphries (the star who didn't wake up until Gibbs traded him) was also about 4 or 5.

And what round did Baltimore draft Johny Unitas? They didn't draft him? Ever? You mean he was a after-thought guy at Pittsburgh, who dumped him?

And did Unitas replace first round star George Shaw? (Yes, Shaw hurt his knee...not a Heath Shuler) Hmmmm....

[dmwc]

i saw stay with JC, use MB as a backup/tutor and i guess Palmer is good for a backup... if we had kept Ramsey we would be in better position... PR still was not given a fair shot!