3-4 Defense?

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:45 am

This is probably ancient and has probably been bandied about a million times but ...

Are we thinking of going 3-4?

Has Williams ever coached it as a base defense?

I ask because we keep picking up secondary and linebackers. :hmm:

If we go this way, who would be our nose - Griff?

I actually think it might work to go 3-4 and rush 1 to 3 backers/corner/safety. Pettibon pretty much did this to the Broncos in the SB and they were pretty discombobulated. It also turned Thurman Thomas into a blocking back in another SB.

DarthMonk

gibbs4president · Post by **gibbs4president** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:47 am

No. It won't happen.

jazzskins · Post by **jazzskins** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:31 pm

We don't have the type of Dlinemen or LB's to go 3-4.

HanburgerHelper · Post by **HanburgerHelper** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:49 pm

I've been watching the Redskins since 1974 and I've never seen the team, EVER, line up in a 3-4 defense. Not sure why that is, but it just isn't in them. I thought Greg Williams had a 3-4 in Buffalo but I must have been mistaken about that.

trey53 · Post by **trey53** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:53 pm

Williams uses it as a scheme sometimes but never as a base. Skins need to stick with the 4-3. Jazz is right, we don't have the personnel.

HardDawg · Post by **HardDawg** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:06 pm

Were built on 4-3. People are just getting a lil misunderstood cus now we have good depth at LB.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:21 am

trey53 wrote:Williams uses it as a scheme sometimes but never as a base. Skins need to stick with the 4-3. Jazz is right, we don't have the personnel.

Here's why

fireman · Post by **fireman** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:56 pm

I believe we ran some situational 3-4 the first year greg was here. If he thinks it will work I'm sure he'll try it.

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Wed May 02, 2007 3:30 pm

Yeah, this has been discussed many times before. People get hung up on the idea of a 3-4. In reality, we use a 3-4 all the time. We just line up in a 4-3 and disguise how we're going to rush the QB. When a DE drops into a shallow zone, you are leaving 3 DL to cover the gaps. When one DL has to cover two gaps, he is effectively the NT of a 3-4, period. Doesn't matter how you lined up initially. So the answer to your question is YES, we will use the 3-4.

Just don't think we're going to run it very often or that we will ever line up in a 3-4 proper with only 3 guys in the stance. It takes a big powerful NT to cover two gaps all game long. We don't have that kind of player. If a team sees us line up in a 3-4 with Grif as the NT, then a quick audible to a gut run play would probably exploit that weakness in the middle. So we'll only run it as a disguised 3-4 out of a 4-3 lineup. Carter dropping into coverage can be pretty effective to mix things up, similar to how Miami uses Jason Taylor (same kind of player as Carter) in their 3-4 which led to Taylor being the 2006 Defensive MVP. Taylor often lines up as a down lineman and then drops into coverage. His speed, height and long arms make him a problem in coverage on quick crossing routes and button hooks. He's also agile enough to get around lead blocks should it be a run play.

andyjens89 · Post by **andyjens89** » Wed May 02, 2007 6:02 pm

what the hell is that guy at the end talking about?? the bears DO NOT run a 3-4, that guy (not the writer of the article) is an idiot