lance briggs

[jeremyroyce]

Guys here is another article that I found on ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2814052


Updated: March 27, 2007, 2:42 PM ET
Redskins may put together offer for Bears' BriggsBy Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com


PHOENIX -- While a proposal has yet to be formalized, the Washington Redskins will make a trade offer to the Chicago Bears aimed at acquiring two-time Pro Bowl weakside linebacker Lance Briggs, agent Drew Rosenhaus and two league sources told ESPN.com late Monday night.



Briggs
Washington will propose a swap of first-round draft picks in this year's draft -- the Redskins own the sixth overall selection and Chicago has the 31st choice -- in exchange for Briggs. The potential deal, which is expected to pick up steam on Tuesday morning as the annual NFL meetings continue, would be contingent on the Redskins signing Briggs to a long-term contract.

Having failed last spring to consummate a long-term contract with Briggs -- reportedly a seven-year, $33 million deal on which both sides worked for several weeks before the negotiations collapsed-- the Bears invoked the franchise tag last month to keep the four-year veteran off the open market.

Briggs, 26, told ESPN.com three weeks ago that he preferred to be traded or have Chicago rescind the franchise tag and make him a free agent rather than return to the Bears. On Monday, Rosenhaus told the Chicago Sun-Times if his client is not dealt and remains under the team's franchise tag, Briggs would sit out the first 10 games, then return for the final six to accrue a played season under league rules.

On Monday afternoon, Briggs arrived at the resort hotel where NFL owners are meeting and met briefly with Bears general manager Jerry Angelo.

"It was good in the sense that we talked man-to-man," Briggs said. "But not much changed [during the meeting]. But it was good, a positive step, in that we both know where each other stands in this thing."

Subsequent to that meeting, Briggs spoke with representatives with a few teams, including the Redskins. The standout linebacker spoke with Washington owner Dan Snyder, coach Joe Gibbs and general manager Vinny Cerrato. At some point in the evening, the Washington brass determined to make a play for Briggs, and there were discussions with Rosenhaus about potential contract parameters.

Rosenhaus, who has struck several deals with Snyder, said later Monday that reaching a contract agreement with the Redskins was "a strong likelihood." But he also acknowledged that Washington still had to formalize a trade proposal and the Bears had to accept.

"But it's a win-win situation," Rosenhaus said. "Chicago only wants to sign Lance to a one-year contract anyway. If they made the trade, they would move up 25 spots in the first round and be able to choose one of the premier players in the draft. And Lance, obviously, would get the long-term deal he wants [from the Redskins]. It's a good resolution for everyone."

By using the franchise marker on Briggs, the Bears ostensibly made him a one-year qualifying offer worth $7.206 million. Briggs has the right to negotiate with any team and to sign an offer sheet. If the Bears decline to match the offer sheet, the team which signed Briggs would have to send Chicago a pair of first-round draft choices as compensation. But such compensation is considered prohibitive, and pretty much precludes an offer sheet.

The kind of trade the Redskins will propose makes more sense for all of the parties involved. There have been rumors for much of the offseason that the Redskins wanted to trade out of the No. 6 slot in the first round. And a deal for Briggs, one of the NFL's top young linebackers, would represent the kind of big splash Snyder likes to make. It would also allow Chicago to get value for Briggs and to rid itself of an unhappy player.

A former University of Arizona standout, Briggs was chosen by the Bears in the third round of the 2003 draft. He earned a starting job as a rookie, emerged by his third season as one of the NFL's top young weakside linebackers, and was chosen for the Pro Bowl in each of the past two seasons.

Even playing in the lengthy shadow of middle linebacker Brian Urlacher, with whom he has become close friends, Briggs is regarded leaguewide as a top defender and playmaker.

Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com

[KazooSkinsFan]

Guys here is another article that I found on ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2814052

As I understand the source was Briggs agent. Basically it seems any agent says Redskins and Snyder in any negotiation.

[jeremyroyce]

Guys here is another article that I found on ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2814052

As I understand the source was Briggs agent. Basically it seems any agent says Redskins and Snyder in any negotiation.

What is your opinion about this trade if it does happen?

[KazooSkinsFan]

Guys here is another article that I found on ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2814052

As I understand the source was Briggs agent. Basically it seems any agent says Redskins and Snyder in any negotiation.

What is your opinion about this trade if it does happen?

I know it's a long forum, not complaining you didn't spot it, this is what I said earlier. Still my view, as I said "if" it is true.

You never know briggs might come in hear pick off 6 passes and get 10 sacks then you all would be man that was a good deal. GIVE IT A CHANCE

I'm with you. I was surprised when the story broke that we'd be going for a LB, but he's a stud and only 26. With Briggs, Fletcher and Washington starting and Rocky and Marshall et al for depth we could be really strong in the middle. And we still have a first round pick.

I say if it's true we give it a chance.

[jeremyroyce]

Sorry about that. I missed that post. Thank you for pointing that out to me.

[KazooSkinsFan]

Sorry about that. I missed that post. Thank you for pointing that out to me.

No problemo.

[SkinsFreak]

Chris Mortensen just reported on ESPN that there was a "brief" inquiry made by the Skins at the owners meetings. The Bears declined the trade offer and Chris said that this is just Drew making some "noise". Chris said he was not optimistic about the trade happening. Just what I thought all along.

BTW - They did point out on ESPN that if the trade were to happen, the Skins would be getting the better end of the deal.

Also, they interviewed Drew Rosenhaus and it was blatantly obvious that he was trying to goat the Bears into making the deal.

[1fan4ramsey]

The Bears would be foolish to make this trade the way it stands now.

[The Hogster]

The Bears would be foolish to make this trade the way it stands now.

Really? Why? They are getting rid of a player that vowed that he won't play a down for them, and they are going from the Superbowl to the 6tth overall pick in the draft....i mean, what would they regret?

If he sat out, they'd lose money, and need to replace or release him. If he is cut, they get nothing.....but alas, the Vinny the Idiot comes along with his cohord Dummy Snyder and they want to give away the 6th pick, to take on a huge salary at a position where we already traded a second round pick to fill.

Lance Briggs is a former 3rd round pick...3rd...ya know the round we never pick anyone in? Instead of finding our own, cheaper Briggs, we have to go shopping for someone elses.

To be honest, I watched the draft and read the evals last year, and the way it played out...I think the Skins thought that they could grab Demeco Ryans at that pick, but he went a pick or so ahead (after we had already made the trade)...so we took Rocky. When it happened, I really believe we miscalculated and really were gonna take Ryans...who was rated as a better LB...and turned out to be in his rookie year.

Now we are trying to cover up for our prior screw ups. But instead of realizing that players like Briggs, ey, etc are available later in the draft...we do crap like this all the time.

At some point, this backwards method has to work by accident, so I'm still optimistic.

[Cappster]

The Bears would be foolish to make this trade the way it stands now.

Really? Why? They are getting rid of a player that vowed that he won't play a down for them, and they are going from the Superbowl to the 6tth overall pick in the draft....i mean, what would they regret?

If he sat out, they'd lose money, and need to replace or release him. If he is cut, they get nothing.....but alas, the Vinny the Idiot comes along with his cohord Dummy Snyder and they want to give away the 6th pick, to take on a huge salary at a position where we already traded a second round pick to fill.

Lance Briggs is a former 3rd round pick...3rd...ya know the round we never pick anyone in? Instead of finding our own, cheaper Briggs, we have to go shopping for someone elses.

To be honest, I watched the draft and read the evals last year, and the way it played out...I think the Skins thought that they could grab Demeco Ryans at that pick, but he went a pick or so ahead (after we had already made the trade)...so we took Rocky. When it happened, I really believe we miscalculated and really were gonna take Ryans...who was rated as a better LB...and turned out to be in his rookie year.

Now we are trying to cover up for our prior screw ups. But instead of realizing that players like Briggs, ey, etc are available later in the draft...we do crap like this all the time.

At some point, this backwards method has to work by accident, so I'm still optimistic.

How many first round picks are busts? A lot more than when someone finds a gem in the 3rd round.

Next year when we win SuperBowl XLII, everyone will have a different tune on how we handle the offseason.

[jeremyroyce]

The Bears would be foolish to make this trade the way it stands now.

Really? Why? They are getting rid of a player that vowed that he won't play a down for them, and they are going from the Superbowl to the 6tth overall pick in the draft....i mean, what would they regret?

If he sat out, they'd lose money, and need to replace or release him. If he is cut, they get nothing.....but alas, the Vinny the Idiot comes along with his cohord Dummy Snyder and they want to give away the 6th pick, to take on a huge salary at a position where we already traded a second round pick to fill.

Lance Briggs is a former 3rd round pick...3rd...ya know the round we never pick anyone in? Instead of finding our own, cheaper Briggs, we have to go shopping for someone elses.

To be honest, I watched the draft and read the evals last year, and the way it played out...I think the Skins thought that they could grab Demeco Ryans at that pick, but he went a pick or so ahead (after we had already made the trade)...so we took Rocky. When it happened, I really believe we miscalculated and really were gonna take Ryans...who was rated as a better LB...and turned out to be in his rookie year.

Now we are trying to cover up for our prior screw ups. But instead of realizing that players like Briggs, ey, etc are available later in the draft...we do crap like this all the time.

At some point, this backwards method has to work by accident, so I'm still optimistic.

Look at what Briggs did last year, and what he has done since he has been in the league. I would say that he is worth a 1st round pick right now, not only that but we would still have a 1st round pick if we make this trade. Atleast we are getting someone that has proved themself and not only that we can still pick in the first round.

[funbuncher]

This is on espn.com from John Clayton. I'd put the link, but it's "insider".

Bears say 'No' to Briggs dealposted: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 | Print Entry

The Bears are saying no to a Lance Briggs trade to Washington. That stand won't change during this week's owners meeting, but don't be surprised if they take the weekend and the early part of next week to study the concept.

The Redskins are willing to drop from No. 6 in the first round to No. 31 in a trade for the Bears linebacker. The Bears biggest problem is feeling bullied, which is why their initial position is "No."

Briggs' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has a great relationship with Redskins owner Daniel Snyder, so it's no surprise he could use Snyder to shake up the Bears. The other problem is the Bears don't want to draft as high as No. 6. Still, this might be an interesting offer for a franchise player threatening to miss 10 regular season games. Give them the weekend to think about it.



...funny that though I have been against this trade, suddenly I must admit I like it a little more now that the Bears feel we might be getting the better of them. Bottom line to me though is that Briggs would likely cost too much cap wise and pickwise if we consider the two 2nd rounders invested in McCintosh that would be basically wasted, and who's to say that Rocky doesn't turn into Briggs. He was a 3rd rounder himself. And even if we do get him and he's not a bust and goes to the pro bowl and we go to the super bowl, folks will just say we bought a ring like the Yankees... of course they'll say that about us anyway, and flashing our ring in their face might ease the pain.

[HEROHAMO]

The NFL Network's bottomline said that Schefter is reporting the Bears are considering trading Briggs and the 31st overall pick to us for our 6th overall pick.

I really hope it doesn't happen. If we lose our 6th pick, then how will we upgrade our defensive line?

If they threw in a second or third rounder It would be good deal. We also would have to restructure Briggs his contract. But like I said before Id rather have Lavar.

If they threw in at least a second,third or fourth rounder it would be worth it.
I am sure there is some kind of stud Dlineman available at 31 or even the second round. I am sure Jarvis Moss DE out of Florida will be available at 31 or even in the second round. He is underrated player who is excellent athlete. Heck he is the one who terrorized Troy Smith in the National Championship game. Thats got to count for something.

1. Jarvis Moss DE FLORIDA
2. Marcus Thomas DT

Jarvis Moss excellent athlete we could get him late in first or even in second round if we aquire one.

Marcus Thomas would have been one of the top DT propects if not for his off the field antics. No one can take away his talent though. He is excellent athlete his is just a risk as far as his character goes.

Both of these guys I am convinced we could pick up in late first and second round. If we aquire a second. Which is very possible if we trade away our no. 6 pick .

Keep in mind Marcus Thomas Dominated every game he played. He may be trouble but it might be worth the risk. Heck Dexter Manley wasnt a saint but we all love him.

[fredp45]

Rocky was a 2nd rounder.

I don't like this deal at all. I see no need for us to make a trade for a player who plays LB (or WR, or OT, or RB, etc...) There are positions that we are set at and LB is one of them. We need another DT and another DE. We could have one this year and one next year. I'm very nervous that Briggs is good because he has stud DL in front of him. I could live with us doing one of the following with our 6th pick:

1) keep the pick and take the best DL available (DT or DE);
2) trade the pick for a DL who has proven he can play -- Kris Jenkins from Carolina as an example;
3) trade down to 14'ish and get Carriker from Nebraska -- rated as the 3rd best DE, he can play the left side and does well against the run; or
4) trade down to 12'ish and get the best DT -- Branch or Okoye.

I know Briggs is a very good player but we have LBs that can play well enough to win....we MUST get guys that can play DL and take the pressure off our back 7. Football is about line play and QB. It's not about LBs, TEs, Safeties, nickle dbs, even WRs. It's all about, can you protect the qb and can you get to the qb? It's actually pretty simple!

[Jake]

Thank you Chicago.

Bears say 'No' to Briggs dealposted: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 | Print Entry

The Bears are saying no to a Lance Briggs trade to Washington. That stand won't change during this week's owners meeting, but don't be surprised if they take the weekend and the early part of next week to study the concept.

The Redskins are willing to drop from No. 6 in the first round to No. 31 in a trade for the Bears linebacker. The Bears biggest problem is feeling bullied, which is why their initial position is "No."

Briggs' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has a great relationship with Redskins owner Daniel Snyder, so it's no surprise he could use Snyder to shake up the Bears. The other problem is the Bears don't want to draft as high as No. 6. Still, this might be an interesting offer for a franchise player threatening to miss 10 regular season games. Give them the weekend to think about it.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/in ... ayton_john

[Fios]

It's entirely possible I am naive and stupid (not just one of the two) but I can't see the Briggs trade happening, I honestly think (hope/pray) the Redskins are trying to create as much swirl as possible around their plans in order to create a perceived value for the 6th pick should Millen be stupid enough to draft Quinn.

[SkinsFreak]

This time of year, everyone's talking to everyone about everything. Teams are evaluating all kinds of deals. That's why these guys are at their respective facilities 18 hours a day right now.

The Skins hold the #6 pick, obviously. And that pick holds quite a bit of value, obviously. And we know that the Skins don't have anymore first day picks and would possibly make a trade to maximize the yield of that one pick. So it's obvious to me that they'd be discussing trade scenarios with a lot of teams right now. I would.



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From all accounts, the deal with Denver that includes Dre' Bly is still on the table and will remain there until draft day, unless another deal is struck first, of coarse. So with the Bears / Briggs potential trade in place, we seem to have 2 options to look at.


So here's the question. If you had to choose, which deal would you make; the deal with Denver and Dre' Bly or the deal with the Bears and Lance Briggs?

[jklote]

This time of year, everyone's talking to everyone about everything. Teams are evaluating all kinds of deals. That's why these guys are at their respective facilities 18 hours a day right now.

The Skins hold the #6 pick, obviously. And that pick holds quite a bit of value, obviously. And we know that the Skins don't have anymore first day picks and would possibly make a trade to maximize the yield of that one pick. So it's obvious to me that they'd be discussing trade scenarios with a lot of teams right now. I would.



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From all accounts, the deal with Denver that includes Dre' Bly is still on the table and will remain there until draft day, unless another deal is struck first, of coarse. So with the Bears / Briggs potential trade in place, we seem to have 2 options to look at.


So here's the question. If you had to choose, which deal would you make; the deal with Denver and Dre' Bly or the deal with the Bears and Lance Briggs?

Well first off, signing Dre Bly means kissing Springs goodbye. When healthy, Springs is a top notch cover corner. Also, Bly is definitely a me first guy, so Im not in favor of that trade.

Biggs is also just after the money. I think we have enough linebackers and enough guys making the money grab in Washington. Lets just trade down for another pick or two to get some players and add some quality depth. I dont think we need either of these primadonnas.

[Fios]

Given that scenario, Briggs, no question ... linebackers are more valuable than corner backs in Williams' system, securing a young linebacker who hasn't missed a game in four seasons makes more sense than a corner who, while good, will be 31 years old and has spent some time battling injuries the past few seasons (though not last year).

[funbuncher]

I'd prefer the Bly deal few a few reasons.

1) We need a corner more than a LB
2) The Bly trade comes with MANY more picks
3) The Broncos pick at 21, the Bears 31 - much more likely that an Alan Branch, Jamal Anderson, Okoye, or Carricker could fall to 21

Still dont know if I'd do either, and definately wouldn't do either now. Let the draft hype build.

I'll puke if I wake up tomorrow to find that we have sweetened the deal with Chicago. They do have that 2nd rounder we gave to the Jets last year, and them offering that instead of the 31st would be the next logical counter-offer.

[The Hogster]

Here is the only way that I would make this trade, if I were a general manager.

I would find a third team, who selects between picks 11-19.

Have the Bears, send their 31st pick to said team along with a) a late round or future pick, or b) a depth player at a position of the 3rd team's need.

Then, trade our 6th to the Bears for their newly acquired mid 1st pick, and Lance Briggs...

Otherwise, it really makes little sense....

It's time for us to force a trade where we are in a win/win situation...i.e. Broncos and the Bears if we do this trade.

[The Hogster]

Given that scenario, Briggs, no question ... linebackers are more valuable than corner backs in Williams' system, securing a young linebacker who hasn't missed a game in four seasons makes more sense than a corner who, while good, will be 31 years old and has spent some time battling injuries the past few seasons (though not last year).

Bly is 29, turning 30 in May.

[HEROHAMO]

If we get Briggs, Pick 31 , and a second rounder. Then that would be a deal we cant turn down.

Briggs and a first rounder is not enough!

Briggs , pick 31, and Second rounder that would be a deal we cant turn down.

Or Bly, Pick 21 and a second rounder would be a good deal too.

Why? you say.

When is the last time a Defensive Lineman in the top ten has turned out to be a stud?

Only one in recent memory I can think of is Julius Peppers.

Other than Julius Peppers Rare is the case where a stud comes out of the top ten picks.

There is Defensive line talent available in rounds 1-4 it becomes hard to find gems in rounds 5-7.

!!!! The main thing is that whoever we pick we Develop them!!!!!

Studs are made not Born!!!!!

Its not Imperative that we take a Defensive Lineman at Six.

It makes much more sense to aquire a late first rounder and a second rounder and even a Pro Bowl linebacker in the mix.

We would be able to draft two Defensive lineman and get a Pro Bowl Linebacker.


Here is a List of Quality Defensive Lineman!! Plenty to choose from!

If we have two picks we can get two out of this bunch makes much more sense than only one pick! We need to aquire at least a third rounder along with trading spots.

1. Gaines Adams, Clemson
2. Jamaal Anderson, Arkansas
3. Victor Abiamiri, Notre Dame
4. Adam Carriker, Nebraska
5. Jarvis Moss, Florida
6. Quentin Moses, Georgia
7. Tim Crowder, Texas
8. LaMarr Woodley, Michigan
9. Anthony Spencer, Purdue
10. Charles Johnson, Georgia

Defensive Tackle

1. Alan Branch, Michigan, Jr.
2. Amobi Okoye, Louisville
3. DeMarcus Tyler, North Carolina St.
4. Quinn Pitcock, Ohio St.
5. Justin Harrell, Tennessee
6. Kareem Brown, Miami
7. Brandon Mebane, Cal
8. Ryan McBean, Oklahoma St.
9. Marcus Thomas, Florida
10. Turk McBride, Tennessee

Other Defensive Line Prospects

Dan Bazuin, Central Michigan
Ray McDonald, Florida
Mkristo Bruce, Washington St.
Louis Holmes, Arizona, Jr.
Derek Landri, Notre Dame
Brian Robison, Texas
Jay Alford, Penn St.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/dl.html

[El Mexican]

Briggs is a great pleyer, but do we really need him?

As many of you have posted, the best scenario would be stocking picks in a trade for our number 6 spot. We really sucked on D last season due to injuries. We need depth to the scheme GW likes to use, based on speed.

Pray that we don´t give the Bears our 6th AND another pick for Briggs in upcoming drafts.

[mulkey]

I don't know guys, I think I like the deal. We get Briggs and with the 31st pick we will be able to get one of the top three or four DE or DT in the
draft. I really don't think that eight Defensive lineman will have been chosen by pick 31.
As for the sixth pick, not allot of ST's on the DL in this draft. What I mean by that is a (can't miss pick). Heck Thomas Jones was a number six pick and he is at his fourth home. The draft though interesting ,is not an exact science.
Another point to consider is with Free agency which is the way the NFL works now, you really can't take the time to develope before you run out of contract time.