redskingush wrote:Obviously a cap move, but my question is we brought him in for a reason and he didnt work out, why wouldnt we give it another year, is it Artuleta or Williams being the problem here, The Bears take on 8 mill over 3 years which is reasonable, but why does Lovie Smith think he will be good, if he was so bad in 06.
spenser wrote:redskingush wrote:It seems to me Williams doesn't know how to coach players, just schemes, why do we keep him around, to many good players over the last few years have came to DC and let their careers die.
Im sorry but that is just not a good post....
BnGhog wrote:Hate to bring up old things but I have to. Remember one unnamed player spoke out last year. He thought it was all GW who "did what he did" to Arrington, "Just like he has done to AA, taking him out of the game". I the players believe this, and have hard fealings about it, AA being traded won't help that situation.
If I'm remebering the story right.
Fanforever wrote:One man's trash is another man's treasure.
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BearSkins wrote:...and just to give ol' AA the patented HogWash-style welcome, the Trib currently has a poll asking who fans would rather see start - AA or Mike Brown. AA has polled.....uh....25%.
Redskins Rule wrote:spenser wrote:redskingush wrote:It seems to me Williams doesn't know how to coach players, just schemes, why do we keep him around, to many good players over the last few years have came to DC and let their careers die.
Im sorry but that is just not a good post....
I agree!
What about Antonio Pierce? He was nothing more than a special teams stand out.......if even that until Williams got here! Heck, the argument could be made that Pierce would be flipping burgers right now if Williams didn't get here! I'm sorry, but Williams had to coach that guy up to run his number three ranked defense!
Don't forget about Williams first year with us either! Out of the Eleven original starters on opening day only three were still starting on the last game of the season. Sorry, but Williams had to coach up his second and third string guys to get the job done! I mean, if I'm not mistaken wasn't someone by the name of Garnell Wilds shutting down Randy Moss on known passing downs that game?
You can't use the "Williams doesn't know what he's doing" thing when one player comes here and takes his money then walks away. Blame the front office if you want, but don't blame Williams.
Wasnt that the same Randy Moss that left the field in disgust before the game was over, All reports that day is that Randy hardly even tried to play a game,
but I have seen more bad than good on our defence since Williams got here, my count is 2 bad years and 1 good
redskingush wrote:Im sorry guys if you don't agree, but I have seen more bad than good on our defence since Williams got here, my count is 2 bad years and 1 good, but if im not mistaken the defence got worse this past year. Why exactly do us Redskin fans praise this guy. His defence was solid in tennessee, he was a lousy head coach in Buffalo, and ive seen nothing in DC to deserve the praise he gets.
I still think we could have gotten more than a sixth round pick. Who are we gonna get in the sixth round. We could of at least gotten a third or fourth rounder for a player who was solid before coming to Washington. Vinny C!! at it again. At least the damage has been minimal we got a sixth rounder. We most likely might have released him.1niksder wrote:They got a 6th round pick for a guy that didn't fit.
They paid him $30M for 7 years, with $10m guaranteed with low base salaries in the first few years. Had he came in and did what everyone thought he would do we wouldn't have this thread. (we do have something to thank the man for).
Last year's performance was due to injuries to other players that forced him into a role that he wasn't brought in to play. He failed at that role and became the highest paid Personal protector in the history of football (any kind of football
At the end of year one he's pocketed a little of $5m....
What happens if they keep him now that PP and (maybe SS) will be back and healthy? Maybe they can use him like they originally planned, but that would cost them the additional $5M. Why because of the split bonus (this is the portion of the bonus that was held back for 1 year), the bonus was split "just in case" something like what happened happened.
Had he been paid the $10m upfront it would be no way to cut/trade him for at least another year or two and each year his cap # would grow. Then what happens if the team is hit with the injury bug again this year, do the put AA back in the game to play a position they know he is weak at?
Now that the Bears have agreed to pick up the 2nd half of the bonus and AA has reworked his deal, he became tradeable. Basically it turns out Arch $30m/7year deal as become a 4 year/$14m deal. Instead of being stuck with a guy for 2/3 more years that would be out of position whenever the team isn't at full strength, we freed up the spot for someone that would be better able to step in (Omar has already been signed) and a late round draft pick. More than anything he freed up cap space in the next two years that will benefit the team.
Believe it or not but this shows that the Redskins didn't just throw money at Adam but they gave him a lot to see what he had. It shows that the team had a plan
Speaking of plans: still have almost $8m under the cap, there is another big move out there waiting to happen
I still think we could have gotten more than a sixth round pick.
Not after last season, and especially not with the cap hit that came with him.We could of at least gotten a third or fourth rounder for a player who was solid before coming to Washington.
And taken the entire cap hit.We most likely might have released him.
