Trade up for JaMarcus?

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:21 pm

Gibbs feels we're set at Qb because we're set at QB for now.

That said you can never have enough good quarterbacks and whose our backup? Boonell? give me a break, doug collins anyone? no thanks. Jamarcus would be an unlikely but ultimately welcome acquisition. Let him learn under Jason and if Jason struggles there you have it.

Mursilis · Post by **Mursilis** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:37 pm

Gibbs4Life wrote:Gibbs feels we're set at Qb because we're set at QB for now.

That said you can never have enough good quarterbacks and whose our backup? Boonell? give me a break, doug collins anyone? no thanks. Jamarcus would be an unlikely but ultimately welcome acquisition. Let him learn under Jason and if Jason struggles there you have it.

Not going to happen. The Redskins Insider blog on WashPost is calling it an attempt by Russell's agent to drive up his price, and nothing more than a rumor. Thank heavens.

Californiaskin · Post by **Californiaskin** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:47 pm

I think our boy Jason has VERY similar skills to Jamarcus......tall, stands in the pocket, delivers the ball on a fricken rope plus has experience and is familiar with the O. At this point in thier careers IMO J Williams is better for us than Jamarcus.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:58 pm

SkinsFreak wrote:Now, if the rumor was that the Skins might trade up to take Calvin Johnson... then I'd be like....

CooleyAsIce · Post by **CooleyAsIce** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:48 pm

JLC has already shot it down

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

First of all, before this becomes an internet craze and takes on a life of its own, I have people in authority at Redskins Park telling me with much vigor that the team is in no way trying to trade up and take the LSU QB first overall. There is nothing to this at all. Get your fingers off the mouse and do not send another email floating this junk. No need to waste any more time on it.

The Skins love Campbell and want to give him every chance to succeed. They are actually trying to trade down from everything I've heard and the idea that The Owner is infatuated with Russell and willing to blow up this draft and trade a potential franchise QB they gave up a lot of get just two years ago is naive. The Snyder commands ultimate authority over there, but this idea, as reported on Yahoo.com, is lunacy.

Champsturf · Post by **Champsturf** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:22 pm

Californiaskin wrote:I think our boy Jason has VERY similar skills to Jamarcus......tall, stands in the pocket, delivers the ball on a fricken rope plus has experience and is familiar with the O. At this point in thier careers IMO J Williams is better for us than Jamarcus.

I must be an idiot because I have no idea who this guy is. :wink:

If you are referring to J Campbell though, then it all makes sense. I too, think that Campbell has similar skills as Russell. The thing I like better about Campbell is that he has faired pretty well at the NFL level. This season will be the real test though.

I'm not so sure about Russell anyway. He's been a winner at all levels so far? He beat Notre Dame....who cares? I don't think he's shown enough for a long enough period of time. I also don't know if he's got it "upstairs" to be an success at the NFL level. My 2 cents

MEZZSKIN · Post by **MEZZSKIN** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:40 am

this has to be one of the most ridiculous threads we have had here in quite some time

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:21 am

MEZZSKIN wrote:this has to be one of the most ridiculous threads we have had here in quite some time

I agree. And that says a lot...

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:08 am

JansenFan wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:They make a mockery of us and it irritates me.

Hopefully this new style off season will become the norm.
... yet the Patriots sign everyone known to man, and they are having a brilliant off-season making all the right moves. If the Skins signed all the same players for the same price, it would have been Danny trying to buy a championship and winning the off-season superbowl.

How come no one is worried about the Patriots "chemistry issues?"

Many people picked the skins to go to the SB last year after all the pickups. If it doesn't work out for the pats this year, they may actually get some criticism. But of course they could go 9-7 and win their division by 5 games.

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:01 pm

I agree about the Pats/Skins comparison. However, the Pats have Super Bowl victories using their methodology and since Snyder has been the owner here, we have 0 Super Bowls. If you win, then what you're doing ot get there must be right.

On the Jamarcus Russel trade up idea - ridiculous. We need to start trying to increase the value of our picks and free agents rather than constantly paying interest to move up or sign the over-priced free agent. Every year I see opportunities for us to make smart moves and we pass them up. Every year, June 1st cuts bring a top free agent or two and we always have ourselves jammed up so tight against the cap that we can't compete for these bargains. We sign over-priced players like Lloyd, Carter and Archuleta. We give away valuable draft picks for Duckett, use him very little, then let him walk away for free. Now we're scrambling to try and get some of those draft picks back, why! I think Gibbs has a solid head on his shoulders and he just needs to take total control from Snyder and the ever ineffective Cerrato. No more trade-ups. No more draft pick giveaways. Please!

Fanforever · Post by **Fanforever** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:26 pm

Boy, how I love the off season, it's open to just about everything one can imagine........ Dream Lovers too..

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:56 pm

fleetus wrote:I agree about the Pats/Skins comparison. However, the Pats have Super Bowl victories using their methodology and since Snyder has been the owner here, we have 0 Super Bowls. If you win, then what you're doing ot get there must be right.

That doesn't explain why they have switched to the "Redskin's Way" of filling team needs this year :hmm:

fleetus wrote:On the Jamarcus Russel trade up idea - ridiculous.

That should have covered this stupid rumor...

fleetus wrote:We need to start trying to increase the value of our picks and free agents rather than constantly paying interest to move up or sign the over-priced free agent. Every year I see opportunities for us to make smart moves and we pass them up. Every year, June 1st cuts bring a top free agent or two and we always have ourselves jammed up so tight against the cap that we can't compete for these bargains. We sign over-priced players like Lloyd, Carter and Archuleta. We give away valuable draft picks for Duckett, use him very little, then let him walk away for free.

but instead we...

fleetus wrote:Now we're scrambling to try and get some of those draft picks back, why! I think Gibbs has a solid head on his shoulders and he just needs to take total control from Snyder and the ever ineffective Cerrato. No more trade-ups. No more draft pick giveaways. Please!

Scrambling? Scrambling how? Teams are reportedly falling all over each other for the #6 pick...

It's not that bad now and wasn't as bad as you make it out to be.

Have a apple?

JCaptMorgan12 · Post by **JCaptMorgan12** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:17 am

this would make me sick... :roll:

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:56 am

This thread is proof positive that some people will give ANY rumor some legs.

My 2 cents

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:35 pm

BossHog wrote:This thread is proof positive that some people will give ANY rumor some legs.

What do you suppose we would need to give the Pats to get Tom Brady?

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:59 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
BossHog wrote:This thread is proof positive that some people will give ANY rumor some legs.

What do you suppose we would need to give the Pats to get Tom Brady?

Why? Do we need a QB? But if you really wanted to do this deal, I'm sure the 6 pick and Jason Campbell would work :wink:

But, if not, then we could throw in Brunell. That should do it. We'd be in a bit of a pickle without our back-up QB but Joe would find another gem like Brady in the 6th or 7th round :shock:

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:09 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
BossHog wrote:This thread is proof positive that some people will give ANY rumor some legs.

What do you suppose we would need to give the Pats to get Tom Brady?

Why? Do we need a QB? But if you really wanted to do this deal, I'm sure the 6 pick and Jason Campbell would work But, if not, then we could throw in Brunell. That should do it. We'd be in a bit of a pickle without our back-up QB but Joe would find another gem like Brady in the 6th or 7th round

I read a rumor I started on another site that the Pats are disillusioned with Brady and shopping him. I was thinking we should offer Portis and Jansen for him and just take the Cap hit. Then we can sign him to a long term contract with a big signing bonus, wait until someone signs Randy Moss and trade the #6 pick and Brady for Moss. Then we can waive Moss and save the salary cap space for the salary we would have to pay him because he is good but a locker room problem.

Skins2daGrave · Post by **Skins2daGrave** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:25 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
BossHog wrote:This thread is proof positive that some people will give ANY rumor some legs.

What do you suppose we would need to give the Pats to get Tom Brady?

Why? Do we need a QB? But if you really wanted to do this deal, I'm sure the 6 pick and Jason Campbell would work But, if not, then we could throw in Brunell. That should do it. We'd be in a bit of a pickle without our back-up QB but Joe would find another gem like Brady in the 6th or 7th round

I read a rumor I started on another site that the Pats are disillusioned with Brady and shopping him. I was thinking we should offer Portis and Jansen for him and just take the Cap hit. Then we can sign him to a long term contract with a big signing bonus, wait until someone signs Randy Moss and trade the #6 pick and Brady for Moss. Then we can waive Moss and save the salary cap space for the salary we would have to pay him because he is good but a locker room problem.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:41 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
BossHog wrote:This thread is proof positive that some people will give ANY rumor some legs.

What do you suppose we would need to give the Pats to get Tom Brady?

You're right Boss! But this is also St Patrick's Day and this question is proof that there is an awful lot of drinking going on :wink:

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:45 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
BossHog wrote:This thread is proof positive that some people will give ANY rumor some legs.

What do you suppose we would need to give the Pats to get Tom Brady?

You're right Boss! But this is also St Patrick's Day and this question is proof that there is an awful lot of drinking going on

It's pretty much an impossible task to find a dumber rumor to start then the title of the forum.

oneman56 · Post by **oneman56** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:51 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2817276

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:47 pm

oneman56 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2817276

Pastabelly is getting desperate, he clearly doesn't have a reliable source within the Redskins organization any longer and it shows

gibbs4president · Post by **gibbs4president** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:51 pm

Just weird. Why would they even talk to him? Are they bored?

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:55 pm

This is such a phony rumour.

- JC is already working with Saunders
- He had a heck of a year considering the circumstances
- He's already set up time to work with the WR's
- Len has been stealing articles and needs something to write.

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:19 pm

To even consider it, you must ask yourself the question:

Do you think Jamarcus Russel will be a better QB than Jason Campbell this year or next year or the next year or the next year...Personally I don't think so.