Patrick Ramsey to Denver.

Talk about the AFC, NFC, the NFL Draft, College Football... anything football that has no Washington Football Team relevance.
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
youtube meble na wymiar Warszawa
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Patrick Ramsey to Denver.

Post by frankcal20 »

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2791258

The Denver Broncos on Wednesday night won the battle for coveted backup quarterback Patrick Ramsey, with ESPN.com learning the club has reached a contract agreement with the five-year veteran.

Patrick Ramsey
Ramsey

Ramsey, 28, will sign a two-year contract worth approximately $5 million, with about $1.5 million in guarantees.

The Houston Texans and Carolina Panthers also were interested in Ramsey, who recently was released by the New York Jets after only one season with the team. Ramsey will become the backup to Denver second-year pro Jay Cutler, and he ostensibly replaces Jake Plummer in that role.

Denver last weekend traded Plummer to Tampa Bay, and the veteran abruptly retired. The Broncos then began exploring their options for a proven veteran to back up Cutler, their first-round choice in 2006, and quickly targeted Ramsey.

The Broncos will be Ramsey's third team in three seasons, but one of the reasons he settled on Denver as his new home is the overall stability of the organization and the chance to settle in with a franchise and coaching staff he respects.

The first-round choice of the Washington Redskins in 2002, Ramsey has played in 34 games, and his résumé includes 24 starts. He has completed 480 of 862 passes for 5,649 yards, with 34 touchdown passes, 29 interceptions and a passer rating of 74.9. His best season came in 2002, when he made 11 starts for the Redskins. Although he had a 4-7 record that year, Ramsey had 14 touchdown passes and nine interceptions.

The former Tulane star threw only one pass for the Jets in 2006, and New York released him rather than pay a roster bonus due this spring.

Blessed with a strong arm and solid pocket presence, Ramsey has suffered from being overcoached at times and, certainly during his tenure under coach Joe Gibbs in Washington, he was mishandled and lost confidence.

Given the volume of teams that pursued him after the Jets released him, though, it appears there are still people in the league who value him.



We are trading for Patrick Ramsey to be our backup again. ha ha ha
User avatar
jazzskins
Hog
Posts: 467
Joined: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:17 am
Contact:

Re: Patrick Ramsey to Denver.

Post by jazzskins »

frankcal20 wrote:Blessed with a strong arm and solid pocket presence, Ramsey has suffered from being overcoached at times and, certainly during his tenure under coach Joe Gibbs in Washington, he was mishandled and lost confidence.


Huh? Pocket Presence.....Overcoached? How bout...Statue-like Sack Manget!
User avatar
1niksder
**********
**********
Posts: 16741
Joined: Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:45 pm
Location: If I knew ... it would explain a lot but I've seen Homerville on a map, that wasn't helpful at all
Contact:

Re: Patrick Ramsey to Denver.

Post by 1niksder »

jazzskins wrote: Pocket Presence.....


Ramsey has great Pocket presence... he never leaves it. :?

jazzskins wrote:Overcoached?


Spurrier sure could coach'em up couldn't he :twisted:
..__..
{o,o}
|)__)
-"-"-

When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hold on....

If the world didn't suck we'd all fall off
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

I have to agree with you niksder. I really liked Ramsey and you will see that he is going to do some good things in Denver should he have the opportunity. We blew it with him. He has all the potential in the world and I wish him luck.
Fios
The Evil Straw
The Evil Straw
Posts: 8135
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:30 pm
Location: Leather Chair
Contact:

Post by Fios »

frankcal20 wrote:I have to agree with you niksder. I really liked Ramsey and you will see that he is going to do some good things in Denver should he have the opportunity. We blew it with him. He has all the potential in the world and I wish him luck.


You are missing the sarcasm in his post ... "all the potential in the world"? I disagree ... on the other hand, I am insanely envious of where you live, which isn't relevant at all.
RIP Sean Taylor
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

Why would you be upset at the fact that I live at a place where the coldest temps reach 45ish. Today was somewhere around 80. I was hot. I took my tie off and everything at work. Between appointments, I ran my A/C in the car and saw Selma Hyect (whatever her spelling is) in a Bentley with a driver and all. I hate it here.


Oh, and I did miss the sarcasm.
cleg
cleg
cleg
Posts: 2649
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:58 am
Location: Deep in the Heart of Giants Territory

Re: Patrick Ramsey to Denver.

Post by cleg »

frankcal20 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2791258

The Denver Broncos on Wednesday night won the battle for coveted backup quarterback Patrick Ramsey, with ESPN.com learning the club has reached a contract agreement with the five-year veteran.

Patrick Ramsey
Ramsey

Ramsey, 28, will sign a two-year contract worth approximately $5 million, with about $1.5 million in guarantees.

The Houston Texans and Carolina Panthers also were interested in Ramsey, who recently was released by the New York Jets after only one season with the team. Ramsey will become the backup to Denver second-year pro Jay Cutler, and he ostensibly replaces Jake Plummer in that role.

Denver last weekend traded Plummer to Tampa Bay, and the veteran abruptly retired. The Broncos then began exploring their options for a proven veteran to back up Cutler, their first-round choice in 2006, and quickly targeted Ramsey.

The Broncos will be Ramsey's third team in three seasons, but one of the reasons he settled on Denver as his new home is the overall stability of the organization and the chance to settle in with a franchise and coaching staff he respects.

The first-round choice of the Washington Redskins in 2002, Ramsey has played in 34 games, and his résumé includes 24 starts. He has completed 480 of 862 passes for 5,649 yards, with 34 touchdown passes, 29 interceptions and a passer rating of 74.9. His best season came in 2002, when he made 11 starts for the Redskins. Although he had a 4-7 record that year, Ramsey had 14 touchdown passes and nine interceptions.

The former Tulane star threw only one pass for the Jets in 2006, and New York released him rather than pay a roster bonus due this spring.

Blessed with a strong arm and solid pocket presence, Ramsey has suffered from being overcoached at times and, certainly during his tenure under coach Joe Gibbs in Washington, he was mishandled and lost confidence.

Given the volume of teams that pursued him after the Jets released him, though, it appears there are still people in the league who value him.



We are trading for Patrick Ramsey to be our backup again. ha ha ha



Why wouldn't he sign with Houston where he could play rather than Denver?
Drinking the Kool-Aid again...
User avatar
redskingush
Hog
Posts: 1369
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:01 pm
Location: Southern Ontario, Canada

Post by redskingush »

Good Luck Patrick.
GO SKINS GO!!
SkinsFreak
Fire in the Sky
Fire in the Sky
Posts: 4730
Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:31 am
Location: Surfside
Contact:

Post by SkinsFreak »

I guess the Jets didn't think too much of him either, as a player. Unless Cutler gets injured, Ramsey may never see the field again. Too bad, I liked the kid, as a person, not as a player.
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

This is a good opportunity for Ramsey. The coach has a quick trigger and if Cutler messes up a lot, Ramsey will be in there.
User avatar
REDEEMEDSKIN
~~
~~
Posts: 8496
Joined: Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:12 pm
Location: Northern Virginia

Post by REDEEMEDSKIN »

It's only fitting that frankcal20 post this story. I can't wait to read crazyhorse's take on this, as well.

If Ramsey couldn't outperform, Brunell, Pennington, and the back-up in NJ, what makes you all think that he could overtake an up-and-coming "star" like "Babyface, Rocket Arm" Cutler?
Back and better than ever!
Redskins Rule
||||
||||
Posts: 1788
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:17 am
Location: Burke, VA

Post by Redskins Rule »

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:It's only fitting that frankcal20 post this story. I can't wait to read crazyhorse's take on this, as well.

If Ramsey couldn't outperform, Brunell, Pennington, and the back-up in NJ, what makes you all think that he could overtake an up-and-coming "star" like "Babyface, Rocket Arm" Cutler?


Because Ramsey was able to win games with Spurrier as his head coach!

Because Ramsey was able to win games running a college offense, with college wide recievers, against NFL Defenses!

Because he broke Dallas' win streak against us while running a college offense, with college wide recievers, AND without his starting running back!

Because Ramsey was able to win games in a flawed system.

Because Ramsey would have more touchdown passes then INT's when he was getting hit 20-30 times a game!
Redskins Rule!!!

DUMP SI!!!
Cappster
cappster
cappster
Posts: 3014
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:25 am
Location: Humanist, at your service.

Post by Cappster »

Ramsey's career is over. He was PUMMELED too much early in his career to recover.
Sapphire AMD Radeon R9 280x, FTW!

Hog Bowl II Champion (2010)
User avatar
REDEEMEDSKIN
~~
~~
Posts: 8496
Joined: Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:12 pm
Location: Northern Virginia

Post by REDEEMEDSKIN »

Redskins Rule wrote:Because he broke Dallas' win streak against us while running a college offense...


C'mon, that was 1/4 a Dallas team. That "win" shouldn't count. BTW - Did we even win that game? I can't recall.
Back and better than ever!
Chris Luva Luva
---
---
Posts: 18887
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:55 pm
Location: AJT
Contact:

Post by Chris Luva Luva »

Redskins Rule wrote:
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:It's only fitting that frankcal20 post this story. I can't wait to read crazyhorse's take on this, as well.

If Ramsey couldn't outperform, Brunell, Pennington, and the back-up in NJ, what makes you all think that he could overtake an up-and-coming "star" like "Babyface, Rocket Arm" Cutler?


Because Ramsey was able to win games with Spurrier as his head coach!


Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
Fios
The Evil Straw
The Evil Straw
Posts: 8135
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:30 pm
Location: Leather Chair
Contact:

Post by Fios »

Those of you who still see Ramsey as a talented started in the NFL are delusional. I love the guy for the time he put in here but he simply isn't star material. He is a solid, totally immobile QB suited to a backup role, that's it. Those 29 career picks aren't all the result of pressure, many were the result of bad decisions. And some of the sacks he took were his fault as well.
RIP Sean Taylor
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

I would be immobile also if I was getting rushed from the left and the right. I mean where do you go? Anyways, Ramsey needs some continuity in a system where he can develope. He will flurish when given the opportunity. Call it what you will, he played on a crappy team with us and last year with NY in a new system with a new coach.
Mursilis
mursilis
mursilis
Posts: 2415
Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:07 pm

Post by Mursilis »

Fios wrote:Those of you who still see Ramsey as a talented started in the NFL are delusional. I love the guy for the time he put in here but he simply isn't star material. He is a solid, totally immobile QB suited to a backup role, that's it. Those 29 career picks aren't all the result of pressure, many were the result of bad decisions. And some of the sacks he took were his fault as well.


I'd still like to see him redeem himself (except against us), and while I admit the odds aren't great, it has happened with other QBs in the recent pass - they struggle for years, bounce from team to team, get the 'perenial back-up' tag, and then they suddenly blossom as good starters. Rich Gannon and Trent Green come to mind.
Fios
The Evil Straw
The Evil Straw
Posts: 8135
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:30 pm
Location: Leather Chair
Contact:

Post by Fios »

frankcal20 wrote:I would be immobile also if I was getting rushed from the left and the right. I mean where do you go? Anyways, Ramsey needs some continuity in a system where he can develope. He will flurish when given the opportunity. Call it what you will, he played on a crappy team with us and last year with NY in a new system with a new coach.


In Ramsey's three as a starter (I know he didn't play a full season), they ranked 20th (02); 25th (03); and 18th (04) in sacks allowed, let's not blow that too far out of proportion. That's an average rank of 21st which is not great but I think people remember that as much worse than it actually was. And his immobility has nothing to do with the pass rush, it's a fact of life for him.
RIP Sean Taylor
Redskins Rule
||||
||||
Posts: 1788
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:17 am
Location: Burke, VA

Post by Redskins Rule »

Fios wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:I would be immobile also if I was getting rushed from the left and the right. I mean where do you go? Anyways, Ramsey needs some continuity in a system where he can develope. He will flurish when given the opportunity. Call it what you will, he played on a crappy team with us and last year with NY in a new system with a new coach.


In Ramsey's three as a starter (I know he didn't play a full season), they ranked 20th (02); 25th (03); and 18th (04) in sacks allowed, let's not blow that too far out of proportion. That's an average rank of 21st which is not great but I think people remember that as much worse than it actually was. And his immobility has nothing to do with the pass rush, it's a fact of life for him.


The Reason why his sack numbers were down is that he was running Steve Spurrier's "Chuck and Duck" offense! Where he would take his seven step drop and IMMEDIATELY "Chuck" and then IMMEDIATELY "Duck". Whenever he didn't do that he "hung onto the ball to long".

He was in a flawed system! Then when Gibbs had him starting he was running an offense "from the early 90's"........thats what Jansen said of the offense anyway.

Ramsey is a good quarterback. Just give him a team that has NFL wide recievers and a NFL system.
Redskins Rule!!!

DUMP SI!!!
Fios
The Evil Straw
The Evil Straw
Posts: 8135
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:30 pm
Location: Leather Chair
Contact:

Post by Fios »

I'll tell you what, I promise you that, barring injury or absolutely atrocious play by Cutler, he will sit on the bench in Denver next season.
RIP Sean Taylor
Chris Luva Luva
---
---
Posts: 18887
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:55 pm
Location: AJT
Contact:

Post by Chris Luva Luva »

PRAM is trash. I feel that Steve really screwed him but PRAM had other chances to succeed and stunk it up there too.

OH WELL...
Mursilis
mursilis
mursilis
Posts: 2415
Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:07 pm

Post by Mursilis »

Chris Luva Luva wrote:PRAM is trash. I feel that Steve really screwed him but PRAM had other chances to succeed and stunk it up there too.


Too bad that never kept Brunell from starting . . .
Redskins Rule
||||
||||
Posts: 1788
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:17 am
Location: Burke, VA

Post by Redskins Rule »

Chris Luva Luva wrote:PRAM is trash. I feel that Steve really screwed him but PRAM had other chances to succeed and stunk it up there too.

OH WELL...


:hmm: Ramsey had a chance to succeed? I didn't know that. Must have forgotten. Can you refresh my memory?
Redskins Rule!!!

DUMP SI!!!
Fios
The Evil Straw
The Evil Straw
Posts: 8135
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:30 pm
Location: Leather Chair
Contact:

Post by Fios »

So, if all of the Ramsey supporters are correct, why didn't a team like Tampa or Chicago or Oakland or Cleveland or Minnesota go after Ramsey? If he's just a guy waiting for a chance, wouldn't someone give it to him? Is it because all of the people involved in scouting for, coaching and running those teams are idiots or is it POSSIBLE you are allowing a bias to color your perceptions?
RIP Sean Taylor
Post Reply