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Well, flip flopitty floopindoodle. It looks like the Straight Talk Express has derailed and burned in flames.....

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/01/3 ... hn-mccain/

That there is Presidential material, pardner! ;)
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Yeah, some of those clips spliced together make McCain look bad... and I don't have all the info...

But this damnation of people for "flip-flopping" is ridiculous.

Being able to consider all sides of an issue, or feeling confident in changing your mind are qualities I admire, but people have a tendancy to take those things and call it waffling, or flip-flopping.

Another thing, that is totally off topic, is that I am uneasy about the main presidential contenders being Senators.

Obama, Clinton and McCain seem to be the big front runners... but traditionally, IMO the most successful presidents are former governors... but GW may have changed the public's perception for the time being...

The candidate I will most likely support eventually is Bill Richardson, who is an excellent governor from the state of New Mexico.
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Being able to consider all sides of an issue, or feeling confident in changing your mind are qualities I admire

I agree, but you also have to take into consideration why their opinions have changed.

I'd be pretty content with Richardson. I'd prefer Obama (assuming he's running). I could live with any of the Democrats, though Clinton is probably at the bottom of my list. I do think that would be pretty funny if Bill Clinton was back in the White House. If some of those rabid Republicans are frothing at the mouth now, I can only imagine how incensed that would make them.
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Hillary = No for president. Obama = no for president. I nominate myself for president! :up:
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I like Ron Paul, rep. Texas.
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Although I read recently that Giulliani is up in the polls by twice as much as McCain, which brings me again to this video.....

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/2 ... president/

How sad is that?! This is the best the Republican party has to offer?

I guess the real race will be in the Democratic primary - Kind of like how the real Superbowl has recently been the AFC Championship game (and used to have been the NFC Championship).
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ATV wrote:Although I read recently that Giulliani is up in the polls by twice as much as McCain, which brings me again to this video.....

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/2 ... president/

How sad is that?! This is the best the Republican party has to offer?

I guess the real race will be in the Democratic primary - Kind of like how the real Superbowl has recently been the AFC Championship game (and used to have been the NFC Championship).


I'll agree the Democrats seem to have a much stronger group of candidates than the Republicans... but let's not kid ourselves... the majority of the country would vote for a box of hammers as long as if went to church every Sunday... oh wait, they already did.
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More hot air from the "Straight Talk Express".....

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/2 ... ing-about/
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Nice knowing you, John. Let's see what we have left....a cross-dressing adulterer, a Mormon, and a TV actor. Hmmm. :-k

From BushFlash.com.....

I'm sure we all remember the maverick McCain who wowed the electorate in 2000: Decorated Vietnam veteran, "straight talker", and the only republican who was able to muster the cajones to go head-to-head with the religious right.

Don't get me wrong- I would never have voted for the guy, but his style was refreshing for the time, and for a brief moment, one got the impression that there might be a tad of hope for the republican party.

Long gone are those days. After having his campaign derailed by the dirtiest tricks that Karl Rove could dream up, he deflated like a balloon. Swallowing perhaps the largest bolus of bile in recorded history, McCain fell into line, and became one of the most strident and vocal defenders of the extremism that he had spent his campain deriding- so much for backbone.

I can only assume that he labored under the misguided idea that if he spent eight years with his lips firmly attached to Bush's left buttock, he'd be a shoo-in, come 2008.

Unfortunately, the guy learned far too late that there's no honor among thieves, and has been floundering since the day he announced his '08 presidential bid. I've sat through a few of his campaign events (viewable via the Campaign Network,) and the guy is astounding- he can talk for two hours, and not say a single thing. The helmsman of the "straight talk express" has devolved into the greatest non-entity in american politics since John Hagelin.

But ya gotta give the guy points for pluck- a few weeks back, he showed his ass on national television, by saying that Baghdad was such a safe and secure city that westerners could walk down any Baghdad street without the slightest worry.

After the gales of collective laughter died down, McCain decided that is was high time to walk the walk. Indeed, just today, he showed up in Baghdad, and true to his word, he walked around a market outside of the green zone, and was perfectly safe...

Well- safe, as long as you are wearing a bulletproof vest, and are accompanied by 100 marines, with five heavilly-armed helicopters hovering a few hundred feet above your noggin.

This was a titanic farce, yet, afterwards, McCain appeared before the press, and trumpeted his excursion thusly:

"(His) visit to the market today was proof that you could indeed ‘walk freely' in some areas of Baghdad."

The images of John McCain wandering about, swathed in kevlar, with scores of marines covering his pasty posterior will go down in history alongside the images of Michael Dukakis looking like a titanic dork, when he tried to "look tuff" in the passenger side of a tank.

Stick a fork in him- he's done.
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