KazooSkinsFan wrote:crazyhorse1 wrote:Conservative now has connotations of lying in government, war mongering, racism, torture, destroying civil liberties, fiscal irresponsibiliy, war on the middle class, destroying the environment, etc. What was it again that was so bad about liberals?
Here's so bad about the liberals.
Lying in government - Bush lied (when he said what liblerals under Clinton did). Bush lied once, the liberals told the same lie then lied about saying it.
War mongering - Let's see, countries attacked by Bill Clinton - Somalia, Haiti, The Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Serbia.
Racism - Liberals believe we need to discriminate by race and blacks can't make it on their own capabilities but need a handout. They call conservatives racist for believing we should not. Liberals called Clarance Thomas "Uncle Tom" Condie Rice "Aunt Jemima" and advertised in Missouri if you elect a Republican "Another Church will burn." While all liberals didn't do this, all liberals didn't care when liberals did it. Liberals are also sexist for the same reason, no woman can make it on her own, government needs to discriminate on race.
Torture - Liberals support torturers like the Chinese and Islamic extremists and pine for Saddam who do real torture , not play loud music like the Bush administration.
Destroying civil liberties - Liberals support the ubiquitous IRS, greater threat to our privacy by far than all other factors combined. They know what you make, who pays you, about your investments, costs, who you give money too and other financial transactions. Then whine because they can't call Yemen and discuss bomb making as an infringment on their privacy.
Fiscal irresponsibiliy - Support minimum wage which prevents people not worth an arbitrary salary from getting a job, anti-free trade, anti-capitalist, raping the economy with taxes and disincenting achievement. The terms fiscal policy is a non-sequitor with liberal. High taxes hurt the economy and to demonstrat your ignorance of fiscal policy you dont' even know as a percent of our economy our deficits are not high now. You dont' include inflation in talking about "record" gas prices. Yeah, I want liberals for "fiscal responsiblity" like a hole in the head.
War on the middle class - liberals want the middle class under the care of government rather than the opportunity provided by a free market, that'a real war on the middle class.
Destroying the environment - Liberals are destroying the environment by supporting looney extreme positions rather than practical ones. They naively oppose self reliance by banning drilling off our shores, in frozen tundra, building refineries, 30+ local gas blends without realizing that when we don't do it here it's done elsewhere (we live in the same world) AND shipped to us. Liberals whine about greenhouse gasses but oppose zero emissions nuclear power and want to drain the dams.
Etc. - You are correct, there is a lot more wrong with liberals.
Where to begin. Ah, here.
I am a liberal and do not oppose nuclear power or want to drain dams or ban drilling offshore, nor do I have a looney position (like letting deer run wild) that will hurt the environment.
Further, I don't want the middle class under the care of the government or oppose the free enterprise system.
The minimum wage is a disgrace and everyone knows it, even conservatives who support slave labor abroad and at home.
As a liberal I don't want to raise taxes. I want to lower taxes on 90% of the population, the less powerful 90% who can pay to have legislations passed that gives them keys to the kingdom.
As a fiscally responsible liberal and also know about our current deficit, which is a scandal, our reliance on borrowed foreign capital, and
the other absolute incredible financial problems caused by this conservative administration. I support a pay as you go approach, in so far as possible, rather than borrowing billions to spend, spend, spend.
As a liberal I naturally hate all loss of civil liberties as well as the IRS, I note that conservatives are on a record tear of wrecking civil liberties and using the IRS to help do so, as well as using it for giveaways to the wealthy who buy legislation from them and gave them the Presidency.
As a liberal I am against torture, everywhere, even torture conducted by American conservatives abroad, and naturally hate Saddam and everything his conservative government stood for. I was opposed to the first Bush administration arming Saddam to massacre Kurds and Iranians.
As a liberal I note that I am scorned by conservatives because I support equality for women and blacks. Frankly, I don't believe there are masses of white heroes of the workforce out there who are victims of society's favortism toward blacks and women. I think it usually works the other way.
Fighting wars for good causes is not war mongering. War mongering is fighting elective wars when you want to, especially if you make up reasons for doing it while not so secretly trying to rule the world.
Bush hasn't lied once, He lies about absolutely everything day after day. No human being I know of has ever been caught by so many in so many lies as has Bush.
Apparently, you know little about liberals or what they stand for. It's like you grew up in Neverland thinking Jews had tails. You are dealing in ludicrous, hysterical fantasy, probably based on some infantile fear build into you by people who didn't get out much.