To all Hardcore Redskins fans!

[kimaster]

When are you gonna wake up and realize that its GIbbs that is messing up the redskins! i am not gonna give free passes to Gibbs anymore.
what he did in the past is in the past. great. hooray. awsome. he got in to the hall of fame for what he did in the past. he was rewarded.

now is now. what he is doing now is just laughable. it is embarrassing to say the least.

sure, we can say its not gibbs, its greg williams or its al saunder's play call or its the players on the field , not gibbs .....etc but look at the big picture. gibbs got al saunders here. same with williams. any decisions williams , saunders and rest of the 100 coaches that we have in this staff all leads to gibbs because he makes the decisions on who to bring in and so on. snyder doesnt make that choice anymore. he writes the checks. Gibbs was never the Gm first time around. people need to understand this.

the play calls are horrendous, clock management is awful. we waste time outs like the way we waste or give draft picks like its free candy. sure, many players that we have acquired are a bust as well but AGAIN, who got them here. GIbbs!. matter of fact, the players that we couldve resigned that are no longer here, who got rid of them? GIBBS! sure, williams said players are replaceable and that its the systems not the players. <...profanity edited...> who went out of his way to get williams here? GIBBS!

one thing that upsets me more than anything else is how we give away more than we shouldve to acquire a player. i mean , giving away 3 draft picks to draft JC? why wasnt bailey-portis an even trade. why did we give away a draft pick? why did we give brunell a super star contract and a dreaking draft pick to get him? why did we get rid of clark that wanted a little more , instead signs archuletta to the richest safety contract? same with carter. why did we get rid sign TWO wide recivers let alone big time contracts? why does he keep making embarrassing moves?

i could go on but im done.

[ATV]

blah, blah, blah, blah.

I wouldn't rather have ANYONE other than Gibbs as coach of the Redskins.

[KazooSkinsFan]

When are u gonna wake up and realize that its GIbbs that is messing up the redskins! i am not gonna give free passes to Gibbs anymore.
what he did in the past is in the past. great. hooray. awsome. he got in to the hall of fame for what he did in the past. he was rewarded.

now is now. what he is doing now is just laughable. it is embarrassing to say the least.

sure, we can say its not gibbs, its greg williams or its al saunder's play call or its the players on the field , not gibbs .....etc but look at the big picture. gibbs got al saunders here. same with williams. any decisions williams , saunders and rest of the 100 coaches that we have in this staff all leads to gibbs because he makes the decisions on who to bring in and so on. snyder doesnt make that choice anymore. he writes the checks. Gibbs was never the Gm first time around. people need to understand this.

the play calls are horrendous, clock management is awful. we waste time outs like the way we waste or give draft picks like its free candy. sure, many players that we have acquired are a bust as well but AGAIN, who got them here. GIbbs!. matter of fact, the players that we couldve resigned that are no longer here, who got rid of them? GIBBS! sure, williams said players are replaceable and that its the systems not the players. <...profanity edited...> who went out of his way to get williams here? GIBBS!

one thing that upsets me more than anything else is how we give away more than we shouldve to acquire a player. i mean , giving away 3 draft picks to draft JC? why wasnt bailey-portis an even trade. why did we give away a draft pick? why did we give brunell a super star contract and a dreaking draft pick to get him? why did we get rid of clark that wanted a little more , instead signs archuletta to the richest safety contract? same with carter. why did we get rid sign TWO wide recivers let alone big time contracts? why does he keep making embarrassing moves?

i could go on but im done.

Why do you Puke fans think this is so funny? I have no interest in going onto your sites and trashing your Girls. Don't you have better things to do with your time? Get a life.

[Gnome]

I'm as hardcore a fan as you can get outside of the DC area. If I lived in the area, I'd be the first one at the tailgate.

The game just finished with Philly. We're 4-9.

And here this loud and clear - no way - zero percent chance - not if we don't win another game this year - will I ever, ever give up on Gibbs. Never.

He's to the Skins as Bear Bryant is to Bama, Paterno is to Penn State, Lombardi to the Packers.

And he's got three superbowl rings, two Nascar championships, and a bust in Canton that says the guy knows how to win. So he got it wrong this year. I'm not throwing away my closet full of Redskins T-Shirts or taking down the pennants in my football room. I bleed burgundy and gold and I'll come back at any hater with this rant from here until I'm dead.

It's been a long year. But I believe this with all my heart - it won't happen again. Gibbs will right this ship and when it's on course, it will stay the course for the rest of his term and the next . . . history says Gibbs wins more than he loses and the odds are on his side, not haters.

Gnome out.

[kimaster]

the guy has been back for 3 yrs now and he still looks confused out there. the guy didnt even know we were out of timeout last week against the falcons and was motioning tmieout with his hands towards the end of the game. that play calling last week on the final drive with no time outs.... one of the worst ive seen ever. the play calling today. 1st and goal at eagles 3 yard line. horrendous play calling. everything goes back to Gibbs. the guy cant manage the clock. after every game, he says the same is post game interviews. dude, needs to retire. go back to nascar Gibbs.,

[ATV]

horrendous play calling.

Yea, whatever. Talk about hindsight - If the plays would have worked would you be here whining? No.

[kimaster]

horrendous play calling.

Yea, whatever. Talk about hindsight - If the plays would have worked would you be here whining? No.

christ, what planet u from? knowing that we have the worst defense in the NFL, gibbs when it was 1st and goal on eagles 3 yard line settles for a field goal, leaving it up to the defense. great logic. we are 4-8 dude and gibbs played conservatively and we still lost. i rather take chances and lose than the way we lsot today. the guy wasted a time out to kick a field goal. the guy last week motioned for timeout when we didnt even have a time out. the guy is spaced out. he looks confused on the sideline. the guy with no timeouts less than 1 minute to play in the 4th qt and he calls two running plays ......

today, 3rd and 9 and we throw a short slant to the TE of all receivers and cooley couldnt make the catch leading to an INT and a TD.

great freaking call.

i mean the evidents are right there in front of ur face and u still cant see it?

now i know u werent born yesterday but if u still think these arent characteristics of bad coaching, u are on crack dude.

[ATV]

when it was 1st and goal on eagles 3 yard line settles for a field goal,

Yea,....I remember now, Campbell just kept getting the snaps and taking the knee every down. Why would Gibbs settle for a field goal like that? Weird.

[kimaster]

when it was 1st and goal on eagles 3 yard line settles for a field goal,

Yea,....I remember now, Campbell just kept getting the snaps and taking the knee every down. Why would Gibbs settle for a field goal like that? Weird.

the hell is this dude talkign about? its sad that some of these so called redskins fans dont even know ffootball.

lord help us!

[ATV]

Praise to Jebus, too.

[CPallDAY08]

horrendous play calling.

i mean the evidents are right there in front of ur face and u still cant see it?

I love evidents!

[UK Skins Fan]

Praise to Jebus, too.

You might be the only one talking sense in this thread.

[ii7-V7]

Trash Gibbs all you want, but where was the franchise before he came here? In constant turmoil. Now at least for the first time since Norv and Jack Kent Cooke we have some consistency. GIbbs will turn this around. and every week against every team (except the Colts) we are in the game.

Do you really want to go back to having Snyder hire a new coach every year?

[Skins2daGrave]

Bill Cowher now > Joe Gibbs now

[KazooSkinsFan]

horrendous play calling.

Yea, whatever. Talk about hindsight - If the plays would have worked would you be here whining? No.

christ, what planet u from? knowing that we have the worst defense in the NFL, gibbs when it was 1st and goal on eagles 3 yard line settles for a field goal, leaving it up to the defense. great logic. we are 4-8 dude and gibbs played conservatively and we still lost. i rather take chances and lose than the way we lsot today. the guy wasted a time out to kick a field goal. the guy last week motioned for timeout when we didnt even have a time out. the guy is spaced out. he looks confused on the sideline. the guy with no timeouts less than 1 minute to play in the 4th qt and he calls two running plays ......

today, 3rd and 9 and we throw a short slant to the TE of all receivers and cooley couldnt make the catch leading to an INT and a TD.

great freaking call.

i mean the evidents are right there in front of ur face and u still cant see it?

now i know u werent born yesterday but if u still think these arent characteristics of bad coaching, u are on crack dude.

I realize you wanted us to win this game to give your beloved Cowgirls a bigger cushion over the Eagles, but despite your petty insults we have essentially a rookie QB and we're out of the playoffs. Our season is not being dedicated to helping your Pukes win the division.

Can you see this "in front of your face?" We need to build confidence in our D and in our QB and going for desperation isn't the way to build any confidence in our team when there was plenty of time for a stop and a field goal. Our D just again couldn't stop them. But would that have been different had we made the desperation TD and gave the ball back to the Eagles with plenty of time for them to drive for a winning field goal?

You shouldn't ask people why they can't see what's in front of their face while you see only what you want to see.

[Irn-Bru]

Kim, welcome to the site. Check your PM's. . .

[1niksder]

When are you gonna wake up and realize that its GIbbs that is messing up the redskins! i am not gonna give free passes to Gibbs anymore.
what he did in the past is in the past. great. hooray. awsome. he got in to the hall of fame for what he did in the past. he was rewarded.

now is now. what he is doing now is just laughable. it is embarrassing to say the least.

I'm a hardcore Skins fan you must be talking to me. When Gibbs came back he said things like the past os the past, and that it won't get him anything this time around. Had you been a diehard fan you would have to type this almost 3 years later, had you been commimt to your team like those that you attempt to call out you would sound as unsmart (might not be a word but kimaster wouldn't know if it were or weren't) as you do.

sure, we can say its not gibbs, its greg williams or its al saunder's play call or its the players on the field , not gibbs .....etc but look at the big picture. gibbs got al saunders here. same with williams. any decisions williams , saunders and rest of the 100 coaches that we have in this staff all leads to gibbs because he makes the decisions on who to bring in and so on. snyder doesnt make that choice anymore. he writes the checks. Gibbs was never the Gm first time around. people need to understand this.

are you still talking to the hardcore or are you typing just to hear they keyboard gotap,tap tap?

the play calls are horrendous, clock management is awful. we waste time outs like the way we waste or give draft picks like its free candy. sure, many players that we have acquired are a bust as well but AGAIN, who got them here. GIbbs!. matter of fact, the players that we couldve resigned that are no longer here, who got rid of them? GIBBS! sure, williams said players are replaceable and that its the systems not the players. <...profanity edited...> who went out of his way to get williams here? GIBBS!

PETA is trying to have a warrant issused for you as we speak and I don't b;amr them, everyone else saw the horse and kept going but you had to stop and have some fun right?

one thing that upsets me more than anything else is how we give away more than we shouldve to acquire a player. i mean , giving away 3 draft picks to draft JC? why wasnt bailey-portis an even trade. why did we give away a draft pick? why did we give brunell a super star contract and a dreaking draft pick to get him? why did we get rid of clark that wanted a little more , instead signs archuletta to the richest safety contract? same with carter. why did we get rid sign TWO wide recivers let alone big time contracts? why does he keep making embarrassing moves?

i could go on but im done.

what upsets me is peolple getting upset about things and years latter they still don't understand what they were upset about.

[redskingush]

I love Joe Gibbs, but isnt this a what have you done for me lately league? I don't think joe's mentally into this as the 3rd season comes to a close. Ive see the same problems with this team from the preseason games until now, when was the last time a Joe Gibbs team rushes for 210 yards and losses, thats not suppossed to happen. Last Week vs Atlanta, with 2 minutes to go on 4th down inside the 5 down by ten, why did we go for it, You kick that field goal, you need 2 scores, Joe always sends out the FG team, why not then, as much as we love him, even he is making mistakes. Myself, I feel let down this season because there is some great talent on this club and after last season expectations were high and like in recent years past when the expectations rise it seems like the players run from success.

[Gibbs4Life]

We stuck behind Norv Turner for almost a decade why wouldn't we give Gibbs 5 years at least.

[Jake]

We stuck behind Norv Turner for almost a decade why wouldn't we give Gibbs 5 years at least.

That's kind of a valid point.

[sch1977]

When are you gonna wake up and realize that its GIbbs that is messing up the redskins! i am not gonna give free passes to Gibbs anymore.
what he did in the past is in the past. great. hooray. awsome. he got in to the hall of fame for what he did in the past. he was rewarded.

now is now. what he is doing now is just laughable. it is embarrassing to say the least.

sure, we can say its not gibbs, its greg williams or its al saunder's play call or its the players on the field , not gibbs .....etc but look at the big picture. gibbs got al saunders here. same with williams. any decisions williams , saunders and rest of the 100 coaches that we have in this staff all leads to gibbs because he makes the decisions on who to bring in and so on. snyder doesnt make that choice anymore. he writes the checks. Gibbs was never the Gm first time around. people need to understand this.

the play calls are horrendous, clock management is awful. we waste time outs like the way we waste or give draft picks like its free candy. sure, many players that we have acquired are a bust as well but AGAIN, who got them here. GIbbs!. matter of fact, the players that we couldve resigned that are no longer here, who got rid of them? GIBBS! sure, williams said players are replaceable and that its the systems not the players. <...profanity edited...> who went out of his way to get williams here? GIBBS!

one thing that upsets me more than anything else is how we give away more than we shouldve to acquire a player. i mean , giving away 3 draft picks to draft JC? why wasnt bailey-portis an even trade. why did we give away a draft pick? why did we give brunell a super star contract and a dreaking draft pick to get him? why did we get rid of clark that wanted a little more , instead signs archuletta to the richest safety contract? same with carter. why did we get rid sign TWO wide recivers let alone big time contracts? why does he keep making embarrassing moves?

i could go on but im done.

When are you going to realize that Gibbs doesn't call the plays? The coordinators do!! Take this crap somewhere else!!

[sch1977]

the guy has been back for 3 yrs now and he still looks confused out there. the guy didnt even know we were out of timeout last week against the falcons and was motioning tmieout with his hands towards the end of the game. that play calling last week on the final drive with no time outs.... one of the worst ive seen ever. the play calling today. 1st and goal at eagles 3 yard line. horrendous play calling. everything goes back to Gibbs. the guy cant manage the clock. after every game, he says the same is post game interviews. dude, needs to retire. go back to nascar Gibbs.,

Go back to the sewer Troll!!

[sch1977]

Praise to Jebus, too.

yoouu ddont no ffootball

[InsaneBoost]

Yea, I mean, a coach that takes a team to the 2nd round of the playoff's his second year back, is what we dont need. I mean, I guess we need another Spurier Era.

[welch]

When are you gonna wake up and realize that its GIbbs that is messing up the redskins! i am not gonna give free passes to Gibbs anymore.
what he did in the past is in the past. great. hooray. awsome. he got in to the hall of fame for what he did in the past. he was rewarded.

now is now. what he is doing now is just laughable. it is embarrassing to say the least.

Nonsense.

Gibbs is the same coach who:

- won the Subper Bowl three times, with three different QB's and three different RB's (and one center...let's not forget Bostic and Bige Joe J and Grimm)

- went to the SB a fourth time, but lost. That's four NFC championships.

- went to the NFC Championship a fifth time.

- went to the playoffs twice more (that I can recall without looking at the record).

Gibbs then won NASCAR.

It is not like he grew stupid over the years. If anything, he got better.

I can remember a full twelve months ago when everyne on this board was hippity hopping with delight as the Skins played real Redskins football.

OK. Joe G is 66 years old. He will coach another two seasons, but he shouldn't coach the offense and call the plays the way he has before. Consider: some time he will step back and someone else has to take over. Consider: he retired early in '93 because his health couldn't take the way he coaches.

When Gibbs retires, who steps in?

Isn't it reasonable -- isn't it in the best interest of the team -- that someone younger takes over the offense? Did anyone here have a better OC suggestion that Saunders? Isn't it also reasonable that he try Campbell if the team was slipping out of the playoff race?

So Campbell isn't Sonny Jurgenson. Maybe he won't be, ever. But Gibbs is right to give him a chance, even though he can't run a hurrry-up offense yet, and even though he throws interceptions.

Learning time.