Looking ahead: free agents, draft picks and cap space

Redskin_fan · Post by **Redskin_fan** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:14 pm

I apologize if this is posted somewhere else. Three questions:

1) Can anyone share with me what draft picks we do have left for next year?

2) How much cap room we will have? What's our cap picture look like?

3) Also, does anyone have any insight as to any current Redskin players who could become a free agent and/or RFA?

Again, I apologize if this information is easily accessible somewhere else on the site.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:47 pm

From what I've read here recently:

1) This is a trick question. If we have any, they're almost certainly gone, in exchange for some yet to be determined veteran.

2) Acoording to the experts in the media, next year, our cap, as well as all our capologists will spontaneously combust. So it's not worth discussing.

3) I hear Brunell might be available. :lol:

ArizonaHOG · Post by **ArizonaHOG** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:04 pm

1) I am most curious about the status of the Redskins' 1st round pick as it stands today. I think we might have to swap picks with Denver, but I don't know the details. Anyone know the status?

2) THN has an excellent section on the salary cap. It explains our cap situation in great detail...check it out. http://www.the-hogs.net/html/Team/salary.php

3) The cap section shows the player under contract for next year. This might help a little with free agent info.

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:39 pm

ArizonaHOG wrote:1) I am most curious about the status of the Redskins' 1st round pick as it stands today. I think we might have to swap picks with Denver, but I don't know the details. Anyone know the status?

If the Redskins' pick is in the first 20 of the first round based on record, there's no swap.

USS Redskin · Post by **USS Redskin** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:04 pm

Every year everyone screams that the Skins are in Cap Hell - yet they are continually able to sign guys. They will do what they always do - spend money, sign free agents and buy guys out next year.
Gibbs (mostly B Beatherd) built 3 Superbowl teams through Free Agency, of course its a diff. era and he had like 1 1st round pick in a decade - so it can be done with free agency... you just have to have a good GM to get you there, and pick the right guys.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:05 pm

I think our GM and the scouting dept. are the one's with the biggest issues in the offseason. I do like the pickup of Golston. He was a bright suprise for all of us.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:27 pm

I'd like to see us trade some players for draft picks...this team has had success in the draft When we actually draft people.... Cool

ey was a STEAL in the 3rd round.

I'd love to squeeze a 4th round pick out of Archuletta, or a late round pick for another player.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:35 pm

The Hogster wrote:I'd love to squeeze a 4th round pick out of Archuletta, or a late round pick for another player.

Who in their right mind would trade a draft pick, let alone one as high as a 4th rounder, for AA and his bloated contract?

Too bad we can't trade with ourselves; I bet the Skins would make that trade :wink:

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:43 pm

PulpExposure wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I'd love to squeeze a 4th round pick out of Archuletta, or a late round pick for another player.

Who in their right mind would trade a draft pick, let alone one as high as a 4th rounder, for AA and his bloated contract?

Too bad we can't trade with ourselves; I bet the Skins would make that trade

Yeah, you're right. No one would do that...but one could hope. Whats funny though is that if another team had him right now...we'd gladly sling a 3rd or 4th rounder in a trade to get him. Which leads me to the conclusion that only we are dumb enough to do something like that.

ArizonaHOG · Post by **ArizonaHOG** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:48 pm

RedskinsFreak wrote:
ArizonaHOG wrote:1) I am most curious about the status of the Redskins' 1st round pick as it stands today. I think we might have to swap picks with Denver, but I don't know the details. Anyone know the status?

If the Redskins' pick is in the first 20 of the first round based on record, there's no swap.

Thanks RedskinsFreak. Looks like there won't be a swap. And, any more losses won't hurt as bad knowing our draft position improves......yes, I hate losing more than antything but I have to try to find a positive. :wink:

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:43 pm

Redskin_fan wrote:
1) Can anyone share with me what draft picks we do have left for next year?

1st
2nd - NY Jets acquired as part of trade for the 35th pick of the 2006 NFL Draft, used to select Rocky McIntosh
3rd
4th - San Francisco acquired for Brandon Lloyd
5th
6th
7th
We owe Denver the equivalent of a high third rounder for Duckett

Redskin_fan wrote:
2) How much cap room we will have? What's our cap picture look like?

The cap is 2007 looks to be around $109 Million for each team.
Players under contract for next year total about $105 Million and about $600,000 in dead cap.

Redskin_fan wrote:
3) Also, does anyone have any insight as to any current Redskin players who could become a free agent and/or RFA? .

The following players are not under contract for 2007:
Albright, Ethan - Betts, Ladell - Boschetti, Ryan - Dockery, Derrick - Duckett, T.J. - Fox, Vernon - Frost, Derrick - Holdman, Warrick - Jimoh, Ade - Molinaro, Jim - Posey, Jeff - Pucillo, Mike - Wright, Kenny - Yoder, Todd - Alexander, Lorenzo - Broughton, Nehemiah - Espy, Mike - Eubanks, John - Gardent, Philippe - Harris, Steven - McCune, Robert - Steitz, Nick - Sykes, Joe - Manupuna, Vaka - White, Manuel.

Redskin_fan · Post by **Redskin_fan** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:25 pm

Thanks for all of the great info! I really appreciate it:

1) I wonder if we won't able to end up in the Brady Quinn sweepstakes? I know that might sound crazy since we have Jason Campbell, but if we were in a position to get Brady Quinn, we would have to take him wouldn't we? ...I didn't realize we gave away our second to move up last year to pick up Rocky.

2) I can't believe we would only have $600k in dead cap projected for 2007. I guess a lot of that depends on what we do with Brunell, Patten, Samuels, and Jansen after this season. Does anyone else think that maybe Jansen won't be here next year? I couldn't imagine us taking a huge cap hit to release Adam Archuletta. ...but then I'm no capologist.

3) I think in that whole list of FA's, the only ones that draw my attention are Betts, Dockery (although I don't think he's been as good this year as last year), Molinaro (as a quality back-up), Holdman (who I think has played better this year than last year, and Duckett (depending on what happens to Ladell). I think everyone else on that list is very much replaceable.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:11 am

[quote="Redskin_fan"]Thanks for all of the great info! I really appreciate it:

2) I guess a lot of that depends on what we do with Brunell, Patten, Samuels, and Jansen after this season. Does anyone else think that maybe Jansen won't be here next year? I couldn't imagine us taking a huge cap hit to release Adam Archuletta. ...but then I'm no capologist.

Jansen and Samuels aren't going anywhere. AA could be gone without killing the cap and mostlikely will be. Brunell will be gone, too.

Redskin_fan · Post by **Redskin_fan** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:05 am

For now, I hope AA is gone.

As far as our O-line goes, I see some changes coming. ...especially since Jansen isn't playing at the same level and Dockery is a UFA. I merely mentioned Samuels because he's a big expense and his play has dropped off as well.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:59 am

No, I dont think we should go after Brady. We should gain draft picks from a team that wants him. We have too many holes to fill.

Mursilis · Post by **Mursilis** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:42 am

Redskin_fan wrote:1) I wonder if we won't able to end up in the Brady Quinn sweepstakes? I know that might sound crazy since we have Jason Campbell, but if we were in a position to get Brady Quinn, we would have to take him wouldn't we?

NO! First of all, we've already got a young QB we've not even tried out yet, so QB is not even a true need with this team. Let's give JC a year or more before we start shopping for his replacement. We've got many other needs (both sides of the line, secondary, etc.) which are far more important right now.

Second, what's the big deal with Quinn? I don't follow the college game that much, but is he even the consensus best QB coming out this year? What about Troy Smith from Ohio State? Brady is benefiting from a very good coach (Charlie Weiss), but has he really distinguished himself as THE premier QB this year? I think he'll certainly be a first rounder, but he doesn't appear to be a 'once-in-a-decade' player any team would be foolish to pass on.

Mursilis · Post by **Mursilis** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:44 am

1niksder wrote:
Redskin_fan wrote:
1) Can anyone share with me what draft picks we do have left for next year?

1st
2nd - NY Jets acquired as part of trade for the 35th pick of the 2006 NFL Draft, used to select Rocky McIntosh
3rd
4th - San Francisco acquired for Brandon Lloyd
5th
6th
7th
We owe Denver the equivalent of a high third rounder for Duckett

Thanks as always for being the source on all things draft and cap related. Regarding the 3rd rounder, that's essentially Denver's, right?

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:37 pm

Mursilis wrote:Thanks as always for being the source on all things draft and cap related. Regarding the 3rd rounder, that's essentially Denver's, right?

It all depends on how both teams finish the year and where the drafts picks stand on this "value chart"

Basically, we could end swapping first-round picks in 2007; or we could flop first-rounders and the Broncos would also get a fourth-round pick in 2008; or they could flop firsts and the Broncos get a third in 2007; or the Broncos could end up with a third in 2007 and a fourth in 2008 (the Redskins do not have a fourth-round pick in 2007).
The pick will be equivalent to what the value chart shows for a "high third-round pick" and the various possible first-round swaps would come into play if there is a big discrepancy in where the team's finish, and how high their picks are in each round.

If the season ended today or both teams continue to play as they have we would not swap (we finish with a high pick and Denver with a low one). If we finish with the 17-18 pick and Denver has about the 28th we'd swap and be done.

To be honest I'm not even sure we have a third this year but I can't remember what happen to it so I listed it. The deal appeared to be structured with the Skins looking to have a better record than the Broncs this year (which brought in the 2008 4th rounder).

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:14 pm

I hope we get rid of Arch and Holdman:

We could use guys like: Matt Schaub, He's the perfect kind of QB that can run Saunders offense, and Brunell will be outta here, these days you need two capable QB's and who knows, he may just be ready to play, (no offense to Campbell).

Asante Samuel: 25 year old Stud Cornerback. Sorry Rogers, you might be a better Nickle DB right now.

Leonard Little: He's a beast and Wynn is getting older.

Adalius Thomas: Lemar Marshall should move back to weak side and compete with Rocky.....Thomas had 86 total tackles, nine sacks, and a returned touchdown on one of his two interceptions...when he replaced Ray Lewis at Middle Linebacker.

Max Starks: Jansen just doesn't cut it .
Dwayne Carswell: Dockery is an UFA and he's not worth any more money than he gets.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:20 pm

We need to improve in the trenches...even Buges can't get Dockery to play up to his size, he has to go....Jansen also gets a pass, but he's not the guy he used to be...maybe a better backup than starter...seems like he's playing hurt or just getting old.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:26 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:No, I dont think we should go after Brady. We should gain draft picks from a team that wants him. We have too many holes to fill.

I know we have many holes to fill, but I like the idea of getting someone flashy. Maybe a defensive lineman, or linebacker.

If no appropriately skilled player is available a trade might be nice too.

The way I see it, Gregg Williams does well finding no name guys who fit perfectly into his scheme... it's his trademark.

Why not go after nice vets to fill the roles and get a little star power if we can.

Skins2daGrave · Post by **Skins2daGrave** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:53 pm

i have an idea, how about we get back some players we had last year, trade AA for Ryan Clark, get omar stoutmire from the Saints back somehow, LAVAR ARRINGTON

no im just jokin on that one :lol:

but really, i just want Clark back the most, he was a great complement to ST. no offense to Vincent but hes just getting older

and did anyone read that article about Shawn Springs moving to SS next year? that could be interesting

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:04 pm

Skins2daGrave wrote:and did anyone read that article about Shawn Springs moving to SS next year? that could be interesting

I miss that. gotta link?

Skins2daGrave · Post by **Skins2daGrave** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:49 pm

1niksder wrote:
Skins2daGrave wrote:and did anyone read that article about Shawn Springs moving to SS next year? that could be interesting

I miss that. gotta link?

http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20061110-115510-5157r.htm

here ya go

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:39 pm

thankz