8 Skins Nominated for 2007 Hall

[HailSkins94]

Joe Theismann, Art Monk, Gary Clark, Russ Grimm, Joe Jacoby, Charles Mann, Ken Harvey, and Dexter Manley have all been nominated for the hall this year. I think it is time the old Skins get some recognition. I think Art Monk has a good chance this year but I'm sure he will get bumped by the crackhead with lower numbers.

[JansenFan]

Put 'em all in!!

[NC43Hog]

So we have at least a good shot for one to get in right?

Keep the faith.

[SkinsChic]

Bout time !

[dcoles11]

Joe Theismann, Art Monk, Gary Clark, Russ Grimm, Joe Jacoby, Charles Mann, Ken Harvey, and Dexter Manley have all been nominated for the hall this year. I think it is time the old Skins get some recognition. I think Art Monk has a good chance this year but I'm sure he will get bumped by the crackhead with lower numbers.

Those names take me back to when I was in grade school and we were winning alot of games Sure do miss those days

I'm not sure how long it usually takes for O-lineman to get in but I gotta think that eventually Jacoby and Grimm will get in.

Monk should already be in, I really hope he gets in this next time.

I never saw Theismann play, my first Redskin season was 87 when Schredor (Spelling?) was QB and we won the Super Bowl with Williams, no wonder I got hooked huh! I've asked older Redskin fans about him and i've never gotten the feeling that he was a HOF'er.

The rest of the guys i'm not sure about, I have fond memories of all them but i'm bias, whether or not the voters think they were as great as I remember is up in the air, but i'd say probably not.

[NC43Hog]

Theismann may be getting nominated for his punt returning skills.

Old timers will understand.

[frankcal20]

I think that Monk will get in this year. I remember that at some point King said that he was going to rethink the whole Monk situation b/c he must be wrong. This is Monk's year.

[skinsfan#33]

Put 'em all in!!

I wish, but even I don't think that Joey T or Ken Harvey belongs in the HOF. Clark's #s (even more so if you add hi USFL #s) and his accomplishments are every bit as good as Irvins!

Mann and Manley are borderline as well, but deserve serious consideration! Monk, Big Jake, and Russ should be no brainers, but most of the voters have no brain!

[Irn-Bru]

After Monk, any additional players are icing on the cake. Those Hogs should make it in; hopefully in their lifetimes.


I'm going to try not to get my hopes up too much this year, but I really want Monk to take his rightful place in the hall.

[Redskin in Canada]

I had a theory: If the Redskins had a REAL successful season, Joe would be vindicated in his second tour by the media. There would be a connection between his current success and his past success by those media guys who vote but never saw a number of players on the field.

Since this season has turned out to be a disaster so far, I truthfully do not have high hopes. All the contrary, it is the perfect scenario for the Paul Zimmermans and Sleazy Queens to do their annual damage and spill their venom.

Sorry guys. I think we can work on -other- members of the media but the old farts who have an anti-Redskins and Anti-Monk attitude as a matter of stubborn position can not and will not be changed. One can not teach an OLD DOG new tricks. Right staff from Sports Illustrated?

[redskingush]

Art Monk for sure, Id like GC to get some recognition as well.

[EA7649]

Thiesman and Monk WILL get in.

[Jeremy81]

michael Irvin was asked if he had to choose someone to go into the hall before him, who he thought it should be and he said art monk...how does that not tell the voters something?

[Redskin in Canada]

Monk among 10 ex-Redskins on ballot
By David Elfin
October 28, 2006

Six-time finalist Art Monk leads a list of 10 former Washington Redskins who are among the 111 candidates on the preliminary ballot for election to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in February.

The other former Redskins players on the ballot released yesterday are receivers Gary Clark and Henry Ellard, offensive linemen Russ Grimm (a finalist the past two years) and Joe Jacoby; defensive linemen Dexter Manley and Charles Mann; linebacker Ken Harvey; cornerback Lemar Parrish and punter Reggie Roby.

The preliminary list will be first whittled to 25 semifinalists, then to 15 finalists who will be discussed by the 39-member board of selectors at their meeting on Feb. 3 in Miami. Between three and six finalists will be elected.

Monk, who starred for the Redskins from 1980 to 1993, retired in 1996 as the all-time leader with 940 catches and ranked fourth in receiving yards and second in consecutive games with a catch. Monk had also set a record with 106 catches in 1984. The opposite of such active flashy receivers as Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson, the shy Monk was the master of the clutch third-down catch.

Clark was just 5-foot-9 and 175 pounds, but he was fearless running patterns over the middle. He was also dangerous downfield, catching 58 touchdown passes in eight seasons with the Redskins and averaging 16.9 yards a catch.

Ellard signed as a free agent after Monk was cut by new coach Norv Turner in 1994. Already 33, the one-time track star had three 1,000-yard seasons in Washington. On a team with no running game and rookie quarterbacks in 1994, Ellard racked up 1,397 yards and six touchdowns on 74 catches.

Grimm, who teamed with Monk on Washington's Super Bowl champions in 1982, 1987 and 1991, was the leader of the famed "Hogs." He was selected to four straight Pro Bowls from 1983 to 1986 until injuries took their toll.

Jacoby, who spent much of his 13 seasons with the Redskins lining up at left tackle next to Grimm, was a mountain man for his time at 6-7, 305. Yet, Jacoby was agile enough to be a superb pass-blocker, making the Pro Bowl each year from 1983 to 1986.

Like Grimm and Jacoby, Manley and Mann were best when they were together. Manley was a dominant pass-rusher, whose big plays helped lift Washington past Dallas in the 1982 NFC Championship. Manley set the franchise record with 91 sacks in just 125 games. His 181/2 sacks in 1986 are also the most by a Redskins player. Mann was more durable and versatile than Manley, but he could also get the quarterback. Mann recorded 79 sacks in 10 years as a Washington starter.

Harvey, the first free agent of the Turner era, responded to his big contract by being chosen for the next four Pro Bowls. He led the NFC with 131/2 sacks in 1994 despite constant double teams since the Redskins didn't have another quality pass-rusher. Harvey was credited with 483 tackles and 391/2 sacks from 1994 to 1997.

Parrish isn't well-remembered in Washington since he played in the non-playoff interregnum (1978-81) between the Redskins' rise under late Hall of Fame coach George Allen and the glory days under Hall of Fame coach Joe Gibbs. However, Parrish was chosen for two of his eight Pro Bowls with the Redskins while intercepting 21 passes.

Roby played just two of his 16 seasons in Washington, but his 44.3-yard average would rank second in team history behind that of Hall of Famer Sammy Baugh if he had enough punts to qualify. Roby was the NFC's Pro Bowl punter with the Redskins in 1994.

http://www.washtimes.com/sports/2006102 ... -4200r.htm

[Gibbs4Life]

Joey T 4 the hall!


Psyche, it needs to be Monk even though I hate he left and went to another team(s) at the end there.

[DarthMonk]

I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir but can anyone tell my why Bettis is a better first ballot candidate (yes, I know, 4 years from now) at running back than Monk is at wide receiver AND, for that matter, why Troy Aikman is a better first ballot candidate than Monk?

I'm sure Aikman is going in immediately and something tells me Bettis is too. The only things I can think of are Bettis has a better nickname than Monk and Aikman had a silver star on his helmet.

DarthMonk

[cleg]

Joe Theismann, Art Monk, Gary Clark, Russ Grimm, Joe Jacoby, Charles Mann, Ken Harvey, and Dexter Manley have all been nominated for the hall this year. I think it is time the old Skins get some recognition. I think Art Monk has a good chance this year but I'm sure he will get bumped by the crackhead with lower numbers.

Monk yes, Grimm yes, Jacoby yes. The rest no. I said in a different post how I like Aikman as an announcer and I have to admit, I hate Theisman as an announcer. It is sad for me because I remember being 12 yrs old when the crackhead LT broke his leg on MNF. I cried myself to sleep that night. I desperately wanted to take my prom date to JT's restaraunt. But, now I can't stand the guy.

[Irn-Bru]

I'm sure Aikman is going in immediately. . .

Aikman went in the Hall of Fame this past year. Don't ask me why I watched the press conference. . .

[Skinsfan55]

What makes a great team isn't individual greatness.

None of those names jump out as all time greats that scared the bejesus out of opposing coaches... they were just guys who showed up, did their job and helped the team.

Who cares if any of them go to the hall of fame. I'd rather have it be reserved for the individuals who were absolute game changing forces... not guys who were role players on excellent teams.

[tcwest10]

Theismann may be getting nominated for his punt returning skills.

Old timers will understand.

What? What about as a kicker?

[tcwest10]

I desperately wanted to take my prom date to JT's restaraunt. But, now I can't stand the guy.

Was the food that bad?

[skinsfan#33]

I had a theory: If the Redskins had a REAL successful season, Joe would be vindicated in his second tour by the media. There would be a connection between his current success and his past success by those media guys who vote but never saw a number of players on the field.

Since this season has turned out to be a disaster so far, I truthfully do not have high hopes. All the contrary, it is the perfect scenario for the Paul Zimmermans and Sleazy Queens to do their annual damage and spill their venom.

Sorry guys. I think we can work on -other- members of the media but the old farts who have an anti-Redskins and Anti-Monk attitude as a matter of stubborn position can not and will not be changed. One can not teach an OLD DOG new tricks. Right staff from Sports Illustrated?

RIC,
For most sane and rational people, the struggles of the Redskins under Gibbs 2.0 actually should help his former players get in. Now I know King and Dr Z are far from rational and maybe not even sane, but even they should see that Gibbs' must of had great players the first time around, because if it was just his coaching this team would be in much better shape. But I doubt the SI Anti-Monk idiotic twosome will have a change of heart. Did you hear Peter King id already campaining for Tiki Barber to be put into the HOF. Tiki has had 3 very good year, even great, but prior to that he was pedestrian. If he played 3 or 4 more years at this level then I would say yes, but right now Tiki in the HOF is just a joke. Same for the Bus. The Bus had a Art Monk type carreer, but to a much lesser degree. He was never considerred a top back, maybe not even in the top ten on any given year, he just played really well on a very good team and went out in style. But he will go in because the Hall LOVES Steerlers. They haven't met a Steerler yet that they haven't put in the HOF. I meen is every Steeler that played for the team in the 70's in the HOF! I know that is off topic, but I had to get it off my chest!

[forskins]

The Draft class overall is pretty soft this year.

Monk AND Irvin should be going in.

Theisman? Are you kidding me?

Seriously the problem with Thiesman going in is, there are two things that honestly stick out about him that have nothing to with getting into the HOF.

1. The literal bone-crushing hit he took that ended his career

2. The Blowhard that he is during every ESPN broadcast, the guy is a hack on the air. The only one worse on the air in Phil Simms.

Honestly, I don't know much more then that about the guy's career. I know he won a Ring at least, but how were his numbers?

[admin]

The Draft class overall is pretty soft this year.

Monk AND Irvin should be going in.

Theisman? Are you kidding me?

Seriously the problem with Thiesman going in is, there are two things that honestly stick out about him that have nothing to with getting into the HOF.

1. The literal bone-crushing hit he took that ended his career

2. The Blowhard that he is during every ESPN broadcast, the guy is a hack on the air. The only one worse on the air in Phil Simms.

Honestly, I don't know much more then that about the guy's career. I know he won a Ring at least, but how were his numbers?

Well I'm not judging Theismann's induction at all, but I'm just curious... if you don't know anything about his NFL career, and your two points relate to his career after football, and the way he ended his career, what bearing does that have on whether or not his career was HOF worthy? And what makes it laughable? he was nominated in the first place, that makes it not laughable doesn't it? Someone thought he was worthy of at least some consideration.

None of those names jump out as all time greats that scared the bejesus out of opposing coaches... they were just guys who showed up, did their job and helped the team.

Who cares if any of them go to the hall of fame. I'd rather have it be reserved for the individuals who were absolute game changing forces... not guys who were role players on excellent teams.

What a load of drivel. Just out of curiosity... how much football were you watching in 1991 or before? You're like 20-22 years old right? That puts you at about 6 years old... maybe that's why you can't remember how much of a game breaker Gary Clark was, or how feared the entire hogs line was, let alone Jacoby and Grimm specifically.

And further to that... how many o-linemen that are IN the hall were 'game-changers'?

I look at a guy like Joe jacoby who was never drafted, walked on to the team and beat out a first round draft pick for a starting spot in his rookie season... anchored either side of the o-line for over a decade... and won super bowls, pro-bowls and all madden selections to boot... and I want to know how you DON'T put him in the Hall of Fame. He was considered the best at his craft when he was in the league... history bore out that the offensive line that he played for was one of the best in history... if you don't put Jake in, how does ANY offensive lineman deserve to get in?

[ClintonHill]

call me sacrilegious but I don't think any of those guys outside of Monk, Jacoby and maybe Grimm are HOF'ers.

I think Mann, Clark and Manley should be in the Hall of Great, but not the HOF.

I have a good feeling about Monk getting in this year. Call it blind optimism.