The only things holding the skins back...

[DINO]

You guys all have valid points, but i'm looking at things JC does favorably moreso than Brunell. Things that don,t show up on QB ratings. In other words- attention to details. For example JC stands in the pocket in the face of danger with the 2-3rd string line collapsing @ him with poise beyond his years. His eyes , he checked 4 receivers in motion for targets in 1.3 seconds in sat. jets game.......impressive, and even better elusive!Brunell on the other hand get's caught on camera quite often with TUNNEL vision at one reciever! Lets talk scrambling in a pinch , any guess's on who's leading that battle.....it ain't Brunell , my grannies got him beat in that catagory . The kid has good timing on when to tuck the ball , and hasn't lost one yet. I realize that some piledriving from Strahan or Trotter might latter change his reaction or timing once he faces a solid 1st string D, but for now ....the kid ain't shy!

[sch1977]

1. They all see what JC can be... so they pretend he is already there
2. They want to say the team got us to the post-season but then says Brunell lost because he's "old", "injured", or "just doesn't have it anymore"

1. JC and Brunell have the exact same QB rating in preseason, and that's with JC throwing to the soon-to-be cut WRs and getting protection from the 2nd and 3rd string line. Prove he's not already at Brunell's level now, and wouldn't be even further along if he practiced with the first team at camp.

2. Find where I've ever blamed the Seattle loss on Brunell. I've already said his numbers in the Seattle game were actually better than the TB game. I've never blamed the Seattle loss on him.

And also playing against 2nd and 3rd string defenses!

[sch1977]

Not unless Brunell goes out with an injury

YEa really, i mean Gibbs was so anti-Ramsey, theres no way he gives JC the job, Gibbs is like this, "Go with a veteran 90 percent of the time all the time"

Veteran QB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Young QB

thats how he is.

Gibbs anti Ramsey? Who started at QB at the beginning of last season?
Assuming he was "anti Ramsey, what does that have to do with Campbell this year?

The whole world knows Gibbs had no apparent cause for pulling Ramsey last year when he did. To say Gibbs gave him a chance is a joke.

So are you trying to say that Ramsey would have done better than Brunell last year? Ramsey can't cut it in this league, period. He is vying for third string QB with the Jets for god's sake. He cant even beat out Pennington, who cant throw any further than you!

[sch1977]

Campbell will start for us this year bet on it.

I'd be a whole lot happier if we still had Patrick. Just don't trust Brunell as far as injuries go, and to keep his zip all season. Sorry, Campbell doesn't look ready yet. Maybe he'll improve at a faster rate if Pattten's benched when Campbell's out there. Campbell needs confidence. I would play him a lot in the next two games-- maybe three quarters each game, and get him used to throwing to our better wide receives.

Gibbs won't do that, of course-- because of chance of injury to wr's and Campbell, but mostly because he thinks Brunell's the guy. He's probably not. Sorry, again.

When will you realize that Ramsey can't cut it in this league? He couldn't get it done here, and he has looked horrible in preseason with the Jets! He can't even beat out Noodle arm for the starting job in NY. What makes you think he is better than Brunell?

In the game I saw Ramsey completed seven or eight passes and had an on- target pass knocked down, while only missing twice, one on a throw-a-way. I also noted that he did so against the Skins first team D, which made the Jets offensive line look like a sieve.
To say that even Michael Vick could have escaped those 2 sacks is ridiculous.

Well crazy, I think you should become a Jets fan! It seems you care more about Ramsey than you do the skins. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[John Manfreda]

Not unless Brunell goes out with an injury

YEa really, i mean Gibbs was so anti-Ramsey, theres no way he gives JC the job, Gibbs is like this, "Go with a veteran 90 percent of the time all the time"

Veteran QB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Young QB

thats how he is.

Gibbs anti Ramsey? Who started at QB at the beginning of last season?
Assuming he was "anti Ramsey, what does that have to do with Campbell this year?

The whole world knows Gibbs had no apparent cause for pulling Ramsey last year when he did. To say Gibbs gave him a chance is a joke.

So are you trying to say that Ramsey would have done better than Brunell last year? Ramsey can't cut it in this league, period. He is vying for third string QB with the Jets for god's sake. He cant even beat out Pennington, who cant throw any further than you!

First of all Pennington is a solid Qb and has proved that in this league, second of all he is better than any Qb on the Skins.

[Mursilis]

I don't understand the Brunell detractors. I really don't.

I bet you do now.