Sean Taylor vs. Terrell Owens

Dangerfield · Post by **Dangerfield** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:11 am

I always get a kick out of us fans trying to predict and reccomend strategies and schemes to NFL coaching staffs, especially a staff led by Joe Gibbs.

However, as true fans, we can't help ourselves right? Well, the least we can do is pose hypothetical questions to like-minded diehards......

Here's mine:

I truly believe that Sean Taylor could cover T.O. one-on-one for an entire NFL game. And I further believe that he would shut him down, and possibly even score a defensive TD on a pick return.

I realize we would lose Taylor's presence everywhere else, especially the run game and over the top coverage on Witten and Glenn, but he would theoretically take TO out of the Dallas offensive game plan.

Anyway, I'm curious to hear your thoughts, and I realize that I'm no Gregg Williams.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:21 am

Dangerfield wrote:I always get a kick out of us fans trying to predict and reccomend strategies and schemes to NFL coaching staffs, especially a staff led by Joe Gibbs.

However, as true fans, we can't help ourselves right? Well, the least we can do is pose hypothetical questions to like-minded diehards right?

Here's mine:

I truly believe that Sean Taylor could cover T.O. one-on-one for an entire NFL game. And I further believe that he would shut him down, and possibly even score a defensive TD on a pick return.

I realize we would lose Taylor's presence everywhere else, especially the run game and over the top coverage on Witten and Glenn, but he would theoretically take TO out of the Dallas offensive game plan.

Anyway, I'm curious to hear your thoughts, and I realize that I'm no Gregg Williams.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

i agree on all accounts, dangerfield. ST owns TO. he smacked him around like a red-headed stepchild in 2004, even as a rookie. didn't get to play him in 2005. i would hope we at least assign ST as continual safety help to TO, if not just have him cover him straight up as you suggest.

Cappster · Post by **Cappster** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:51 am

I don't think ST could shut down TO for an entire game. TO has too much talent for ST to cover him 1 on 1 for the whole game. Don't get me wrong, I don't like TO nor do I want to defend him. With that said, it would a very bad move for us to try something like that. I don't see it happening and I don't think many other people do either. I do hope that ST can catch him coming over the middle and knock his block off(without getting a 15 yarder).

Dangerfield · Post by **Dangerfield** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:01 am

Cappster wrote:I don't think ST could shut down TO for an entire game. TO has too much talent for ST to cover him 1 on 1 for the whole game. Don't get me wrong, I don't like TO nor do I want to defend him. With that said, it would a very bad move for us to try something like that. I don't see it happening and I don't think many other people do either. I do hope that ST can catch him coming over the middle and knock his block off(without getting a 15 yarder).

Good points.

Disclaimer.....I was raising this as a hypothetical situation, I know that there is no chance in hell we'd employ this as a strategy, but Taylor is such a gifted athlete, that this does merit discussion based on a "Fantasy World Scenario"..that's all I meant it to be. Also, remember that TO is now like 33 yrs old or so. Why doesn't anyone ever bring that up when they talk about him? He's approaching the dreaded "losing a step" phase of his career IMO.

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:18 am

I'm not worried about TO. The last few years he's played against us we have done a very good job keeping him in check. I worry more about Dallas' other receivers.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:22 am

taylor was deep help with randy moss, both in 04 last game with the vikes, and last year in the oakland game. he out ran, out jumped, and basically owned moss whenever they locked up. i think williams will use a similar type strategy with owens. with taylors sideline to sidline speed and covering the deep middle he may not shut down owens, but he'll limit what dallas can do with owens.

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:54 pm

Dangerfield wrote:I truly believe that Sean Taylor could cover T.O. one-on-one for an entire NFL game. And I further believe that he would shut him down, and possibly even score a defensive TD on a pick return.

I realize we would lose Taylor's presence everywhere else, especially the run game and over the top coverage on Witten and Glenn, but he would theoretically take TO out of the Dallas offensive game plan.

Yeah, I know Sean could cover TO one on one (he did to perfection on Moss in '04) plus TO is scared of TO.

But like you said, we could not afford to do that because Sean is such a factor in making the defense go. He needs to be a factor in the run game, in covering Witten/Glenn/ and TO.

But the real factor will be if Springs can play, and be 100% at that.

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:57 pm

I think your on to something we may see ST play corner this sun.
And I never thought about it but I think that favors us because owens is not going to enjoy that matchup. That leaves Rogers vs Glenn (fair) Wright vs Crayton (oh my God they killed Kenny!) Marcus vs Witten with Archuleta and Rumph or Doughty at safety...it could work.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:29 pm

I think for the first play we line Sean Taylor up on T.O. about 5-10 yards back, then before the ball is even snapped we have Taylor run in and smash T.O. before the play and give him something to think about.

Would that be worth the suspension, penalties and negative ink?

No,

but it would be fun to watch.

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:14 pm

Hell, the ref is gonna call Unnecessary Roughness on ST anyway, why not de-cleat TO right up front.

On three receiver sets, I could see bringing in Prioleau at FS and moving ST up on TO, but that said, ST is most effective when he gets a running (freight train) start.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:38 pm

fleetus wrote:Hell, the ref is gonna call Unnecessary Roughness on ST anyway, why not de-cleat TO right up front.

On three receiver sets, I could see bringing in Prioleau at FS and moving ST up on TO, but that said, ST is most effective when he gets a running (freight train) start.

prioleau is out for the year bro.....

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:53 pm

Cappster wrote:I don't think ST could shut down TO for an entire game. TO has too much talent for ST to cover him 1 on 1 for the whole game. Don't get me wrong, I don't like TO nor do I want to defend him. With that said, it would a very bad move for us to try something like that. I don't see it happening and I don't think many other people do either. I do hope that ST can catch him coming over the middle and knock his block off(without getting a 15 yarder).

as some others have pointed out, sean taylor could most DEFINITELY cover TO one on one. there is no move that TO could make that ST can't mirror, and as strong as TO is, ST is much, MUCH stronger. look at ST vs. TO in 2004 if you need any proof. he made him his ladyfriend in that game, forcing fumbles, knocking him around. it was embarassing. i think he actually sent him to the trainers for a bit on the sideline if i'm not mistaken.

mulkey · Post by **mulkey** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:27 pm

I would love to agree with you fellas if i could. I just think TO has to much speed and it would not be a good match up on the corner. However that being said from the safety position he gets to play center field. Hopefully with TO's arms extended reaching for the ball. ST hits TO in the mouth causing his helmet to come off with his head inside. The best part is that he hit him in the mouth so we don't have to hear his stupid $&#$ anymore...

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:37 am

Skinsfan55 wrote:I think for the first play we line Sean Taylor up on T.O. about 5-10 yards back, then before the ball is even snapped we have Taylor run in and smash T.O. before the play and give him something to think about.

Would that be worth the suspension, penalties and negative ink?

No,

but it would be fun to watch.

He already did that once!

Remember when he was a rookie, and the play was dead. He walked right up to TO and just socked him in the face!

Then got a 15 yarder for it.

TincoSkin · Post by **TincoSkin** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:54 am

i think a larger question is how ST focusing on TO is going to impact the rest of his game.

With ST focusing on TO he wont be blitzing, stopping runs, filling holes and frightening the rest of the cowgirls with his deadly missle attack.

Focusing on one guy will limit STs effectivness.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:17 pm

hailskins666 wrote:taylor was deep help with randy moss, both in 04 last game with the vikes, and last year in the oakland game. he out ran, out jumped, and basically owned moss whenever they locked up. i think williams will use a similar type strategy with owens. with taylors sideline to sidline speed and covering the deep middle he may not shut down owens, but he'll limit what dallas can do with owens.

Yeah, remember when ST beat Moss on every jump ball.... Randy Effing Moss.

Owens is a different type of player though, you don't see Owens jumping much, he pretty much catches the ball and then runs over people... have you ever seen someone run over Sean Taylor?

Me either.

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:37 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:taylor was deep help with randy moss, both in 04 last game with the vikes, and last year in the oakland game. he out ran, out jumped, and basically owned moss whenever they locked up. i think williams will use a similar type strategy with owens. with taylors sideline to sidline speed and covering the deep middle he may not shut down owens, but he'll limit what dallas can do with owens.

Yeah, remember when ST beat Moss on every jump ball.... Randy Effing Moss.

Owens is a different type of player though, you don't see Owens jumping much, he pretty much catches the ball and then runs over people... have you ever seen someone run over Sean Taylor?

Me either.

amen.

HailSkins94 · Post by **HailSkins94** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:35 pm

HOSS wrote:I'm not worried about TO. The last few years he's played against us we have done a very good job keeping him in check. I worry more about Dallas' other receivers.

With Shawn Springs covering him who knows his tendencies going all the way back to the SEA vs. SF days...different story here now.

DiRTyHoG3026 · Post by **DiRTyHoG3026** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:14 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:
hailskins666 wrote: have you ever seen someone run over Sean Taylor?

Me either.

I remember when he was in college he got laid out by greg jones. It was pretty bad, he put his head down, then all of the sudden you just see his head bounce backwards and he just fell right on his back.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:20 pm

DiRTyHoG3026 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
hailskins666 wrote: have you ever seen someone run over Sean Taylor?

Me either.

I remember when he was in college he got laid out by greg jones. It was pretty bad, he put his head down, then all of the sudden you just see his head bounce backwards and he just fell right on his back.

I disagree.

Sean Taylor was standing flat footed and Jones had a full head of steam. Thats simply unfair. Greg would NOT have done that if Taylor was running with a head of steam also.

DiRTyHoG3026 · Post by **DiRTyHoG3026** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:43 pm

It was still pretty bad. He was flat footed, but still pretty darn impressive.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0NiwGp1TM5k

JPM36 · Post by **JPM36** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:54 pm

I hear that when T.O. plays catch with his son he makes sure to check over each shoulder for Sean Taylor before reaching out to catch the ball.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:10 pm

DiRTyHoG3026 wrote:It was still pretty bad. He was flat footed, but still pretty darn impressive.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0NiwGp1TM5k

Not impressive to me. Im small and I know if I hit him head on running full speed I could make him at least stumble. If sEAN was running full speed, it would have been a different story. It speaks volumes of his willingnness to sacrifice his body for the team, he knew was going to get run over.

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:04 pm

Screw Sean Taylor vs. TO, how about Sean Taylor vs. Julius Jones.

I mean, that strip was simply amazing.

Taylor is such a ballhawk, and once he gets his angles right... well to tell you the truth I don't know what to say.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:15 pm

air_hog wrote:Screw Sean Taylor vs. TO, how about Sean Taylor vs. Julius Jones.

I mean, that strip was simply amazing.

Taylor is such a ballhawk, and once he gets his angles right... well to tell you the truth I don't know what to say.

I know there were some plays made in Taylor's vicinity last night, but he still had an amazing game. A couple of crushin hits on Dallas' receivers, several big tackles saving huge gains, and of course that beautiful strip. How do you simply rip a football out of a guy's hands when he works out non-stop and is paid millions to hold onto it? There are very few players in the league who can do that like Sean can.

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