Chargers player shot by 'off duty' Police Officer.

[JPFair]

Another NFL player shot, but this time, by Police. Just from the sounds of it, this Police Officer has some explaining to do.

Official: NFL player shot by off-duty police officer
POSTED: 6:23 p.m. EDT, September 3, 2006
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(CNN) -- The San Diego Chargers' Steve Foley was shot by an off-duty police officer early Sunday, a San Diego Sheriff's spokesman said.

The shooting came days after the linebacker had been cleared on charges stemming from a scuffle with police in April.

The 30-year-old, nine-year NFL veteran was taken to San Diego's Sharp Memorial Hospital.

Foley was shot at about 3:30 a.m. (6:30 a.m. ET) on a street in the upscale neighborhood where he lived.

The officer involved in the shooting was from the Coronado Police Department, an island town about 20 miles from the scene of the shooting, which took place in the town of Poway, San Diego Sheriff's Lt. Scott Rossall said.

It was not immediately clear why the Coronado officer was in Poway or why, while off duty, the officer would stop Foley's vehicle, Rossall said.

A statement from the Chargers confirmed that Foley was shot.

In a statement, the Coronado police chief confirmed one of his officers was involved in a shooting in Poway, but did not identify the officer.

[Deadskins]

Foley was shot at about 3:30 a.m. (6:30 a.m. ET) on a street in the upscale neighborhood where he lived.

Sounds like he was DWB.

[frankcal20]

yep

[yupchagee]

Foley was shot at about 3:30 a.m. (6:30 a.m. ET) on a street in the upscale neighborhood where he lived.

Sounds like he was DWB.

Was he driving?

[Hoss]

Foley was shot at about 3:30 a.m. (6:30 a.m. ET) on a street in the upscale neighborhood where he lived.

Sounds like he was DWB.

Was he driving?

maybe he was WWB???

[yupchagee]

Foley was shot at about 3:30 a.m. (6:30 a.m. ET) on a street in the upscale neighborhood where he lived.

Sounds like he was DWB.

Was he driving?

maybe he was WWB???

Or just BWB?

[Hoss]

Foley was shot at about 3:30 a.m. (6:30 a.m. ET) on a street in the upscale neighborhood where he lived.

Sounds like he was DWB.

Was he driving?

maybe he was WWB???

Or just BWB?

most likely.

[Dishgeek]

Was he driving?

It was not immediately clear why the Coronado officer was in Poway or why, while off duty, the officer would stop Foley's vehicle, Rossall said.

Unless the "vehicle" was a rowboat or sumthin'. Why do they do that? Why can't they just say/write "car?" Do they think it sounds official?

[Skinsfan55]

I hope all of you people who said Foley was shot because he was black feel like idiots.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/ch ... yshot.html

Hmmm, he was drunk, abusive, threatening, given repeated warnings...

Yeah, if he was white, and acted the same way... there's no way he would have been shot in accordance with proper police procedures...

That off duty cop should be given a medal.

[Chris Luva Luva]

Foley was shot at about 3:30 a.m. (6:30 a.m. ET) on a street in the upscale neighborhood where he lived.

Sounds like he was DWB.

Was he driving?

maybe he was WWB???

Or just BWB?

most likely.

Lets make it simple, XWB, X being a variable.

[1niksder]

I hope all of you people who said Foley was shot because he was black feel like idiots.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/ch ... yshot.html

Hmmm, he was drunk, abusive, threatening, given repeated warnings...

Yeah, if he was white, and acted the same way... there's no way he would have been shot in accordance with proper police procedures...

That off duty cop should be given a medal.

Off-duty from another jurisdiction, didn't ask for "on-duty" assistance (where a identifiable police car would have been at the scene), Still no tox.

Do you know how you sound.

The DWB comment maybe incorrect but to try and defend it, makes me glad you'll never get a badge.

Time will sort this out, to call it anything but a incedent right now would be jumping the gun.

Foley did beat up a cop a few months ago (and beat it) maybe that had something to do with it and color wasn't a issue and neither was booze. We don't know... yet

[JPFair]

Proper Police prodcedure, if the "Off-Duty" Officer was "following" the suspect, as mentioned in many articles, would be for the Officer to request "On-duty" assistance. If he was following the guy, he had ample time to follow proper police procedures.

The whole DWB thing is a non issue at this point, but as 1niksider says, until the facts come out, it's only an "incident" at this point.

[yupchagee]

I hope all of you people who said Foley was shot because he was black feel like idiots.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/ch ... yshot.html

Hmmm, he was drunk, abusive, threatening, given repeated warnings...

Yeah, if he was white, and acted the same way... there's no way he would have been shot in accordance with proper police procedures...

That off duty cop should be given a medal.

That's the cops side of the story. Curious that this occured just 1 week after previous charges were dropped.

Had Foley been driving as eratically as the officer claimed, why did he wait so long to pull him over?

[Deadskins]

I hope all of you people who said Foley was shot because he was black feel like idiots.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/ch ... yshot.html

Hmmm, he was drunk, abusive, threatening, given repeated warnings...

Yeah, if he was white, and acted the same way... there's no way he would have been shot in accordance with proper police procedures...

That off duty cop should be given a medal.

That's the cops side of the story. Curious that this occured just 1 week after previous charges were dropped.

Had Foley been driving as eratically as the officer claimed, why did he wait so long to pull him over?

Or call for backup from on-duty cops in that jurisdiction?

[JPFair]

Or call for backup from on-duty cops in that jurisdiction?

Which is PROPER Police Protocol if and "off duty" Officer is "following" someone. Now, obviously, if time was an issue, then the Officer doesn't have time to call for on duty Officers in jurisdiction, but by virtue of the fact that he was "following" him leads one to believe that he should have, at an absolute minimum, requested backup. In fact, I might be wrong, but I think the only reason an "off duty" Officer has authority to "follow" someone is if it poses an immediate threat to the lives of the public. That can be justified though by the claim of the driver driving erratically. I believe the Cop deserves the benefit of the doubt, but he better be able to explain why he didn't request for Officers On duty, in the jurisdiction, to intervene. And, lack of a cell-phone is not a legitimate explanation.

[box]

I commend this officer. He could have just went about his business and maybe just maybe someone could have been killed by this arrogant and DRUNK driver no matter what color he is. Foley sounds like a jackass who deserved it. He is not above the law.

Real smart move puttin your hands in your pants walkin towards a cop with a gun pointin at you.

By the way... i lost a loved one to drunken driving so nothing any can say to me to justify that the officer should have called for backup..complete BS

[yupchagee]

I commend this officer. He could have just went about his business and maybe just maybe someone could have been killed by this arrogant and DRUNK driver no matter what color he is. Foley sounds like a jackass who deserved it. He is not above the law.

Real smart move puttin your hands in your pants walkin towards a cop with a gun pointin at you.

By the way... i lost a loved one to drunken driving so nothing any can say to me to justify that the officer should have called for backup..complete BS

Is there any evidence he was drunk? Breathalizer? Blood alcohol? I haven't seen that reported. Also strange that no charges have been filed.

No one said he is or should be above the law. This officer was off duty & out of his jurisdiction. Why would Foley even believe he was a cop?

[JPFair]

I commend this officer. He could have just went about his business and maybe just maybe someone could have been killed by this arrogant and DRUNK driver no matter what color he is. Foley sounds like a jackass who deserved it. He is not above the law.

Real smart move puttin your hands in your pants walkin towards a cop with a gun pointin at you.

By the way... i lost a loved one to drunken driving so nothing any can say to me to justify that the officer should have called for backup..complete BS

innocent until proven guilty, and there has been no proof that the guy was drunk. Don't be so quick to point out that he was drunk, when it has not been established. With all due respect, but those of us who have lost loved ones do drunken drivers, are not above the presumption of innocence until proven guilty either. When he's charged, and convicted, of being drunk, then your statement, might be correct.

As for commending him, justifying calling for back up is not an option to the off duty officer, it's his obligation and his responsibility. If, as is mentioined in the articles, he followed the guy, then proper Police procedures are that he follow him while making contact with on duty Officers in the jurisdiction. So, by saying he has no need to justify requesting back up, is akin to saying that he does not have to justify deviating from established protocols.

Coley, like the Cop, are not above the law, nor are they allowed to conduct their own type of Justice. A Police Officer must follow proper procedures at all times, on duty or off duty. If he requested on duty Officers to intervene, and indeed had opportunity to, then he did nothing wrong in that regard. But, to say it is not justified, is simply wrong.

[nuskins]

This guy had no chance from what I have read about the inceident. It is quite obvious that he was targeted from previous history and that proper police procedures were not followed. BTW Coronado is a really affluent part of San Diego and is at least a 10-15 min drive from where he started following Foley, plenty of time to get backup or if the case that he was driving erratically and was a danger to the public, to be stopped well before the bridge to Coronado island.

I am going to venture that no charges will be filed, Foley will sue San Diego police dept. for the salary he is going to lose this year at a minimum and the officer will face charges.

This has vendetta written all over it.

[JansenFan]

Stay Classy, San Diego!

[hailskins666]

Anyway, the San Diego Chargers clearly believe the police officer's story because they cut Foley's sorry butt and won't be paying him a dime this season. I guess that will teach him about his complete lack of respect for authority

get your facts straight. he was not cut. he was placed on the non-football injured reserve list. and no the chargers won't be paying a salary because of this, but i'm sure the city of san diego will after all the lawsuits.

[Skinsfan55]

Anyway, the San Diego Chargers clearly believe the police officer's story because they cut Foley's sorry butt and won't be paying him a dime this season. I guess that will teach him about his complete lack of respect for authority

get your facts straight. he was not cut. he was placed on the non-football injured reserve list. and no the chargers won't be paying a salary because of this, but i'm sure the city of san diego will after all the lawsuits.

I need to get my facts straight?

1.) The off duty policeman worked in the neighboring town of Coronado. So why would San Diego be sued?

(Also, I would expect this woman who tried to run over the policeman will be charged with attempted murder of a police officer soon, Foley will most likely be charged soon with crimes related to his driving, and behavoir, probably the reason he hasn't already been charged is that prosecutors don't seem to charge people in hospital beds very often.)

2.) I knew he was on the non-football injured list, but it seems that he will be back and healthy in a month or so, why would they immediately sweep one of their important parts of their defense under the rug so they wouldn't have to pay him? Hmmmm. Sounds like he was cut (more or less) to me.

[hailskins666]

Anyway, the San Diego Chargers clearly believe the police officer's story because they cut Foley's sorry butt and won't be paying him a dime this season. I guess that will teach him about his complete lack of respect for authority

get your facts straight. he was not cut. he was placed on the non-football injured reserve list. and no the chargers won't be paying a salary because of this, but i'm sure the city of san diego will after all the lawsuits.

I need to get my facts straight?

1.) The off duty policeman worked in the neighboring town of Coronado. So why would San Diego be sued?

(Also, I would expect this woman who tried to run over the policeman will be charged with attempted murder of a police officer soon, Foley will most likely be charged soon with crimes related to his driving, and behavoir, probably the reason he hasn't already been charged is that prosecutors don't seem to charge people in hospital beds very often.)

that was a joke. i guess they don't have those where you come from. after all, you know everything, and have no use or time for any type of humor in all of your greatness...

2.) I knew he was on the non-football injured list, but it seems that he will be back and healthy in a month or so, why would they immediately sweep one of their important parts of their defense under the rug so they wouldn't have to pay him? Hmmmm. Sounds like he was cut (more or less) to me.

so, are you admitting that you don't have your facts straight, or am i just so s s s s stupid that i shouldn't possibly believe anything that is on nfl.com? oh, thats right, you know everything, even the future, thats why everyone else is a moron.

[yupchagee]

I hope all of you people who said Foley was shot because he was black feel like idiots.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/ch ... yshot.html

Hmmm, he was drunk, abusive, threatening, given repeated warnings...

Yeah, if he was white, and acted the same way... there's no way he would have been shot in accordance with proper police procedures...

That off duty cop should be given a medal.

That's the cops side of the story. Curious that this occured just 1 week after previous charges were dropped.

Had Foley been driving as eratically as the officer claimed, why did he wait so long to pull him over?

Or call for backup from on-duty cops in that jurisdiction?

Since he was from another jurisdiction, his radio might not have been compatable with theirs. I know it sounds crazy, but these situations do exist. Why they exist is a topic for another thread.

[1niksder]

That's the cops side of the story. Curious that this occured just 1 week after previous charges were dropped.

Had Foley been driving as eratically as the officer claimed, why did he wait so long to pull him over?

Or call for backup from on-duty cops in that jurisdiction?[/quote]

Since he was from another jurisdiction, his radio might not have been compatable with theirs. I know it sounds crazy, but these situations do exist. Why they exist is a topic for another thread.[/quote]
If that were the case he could have radioed his dispachter and had them contact the jurisdiction inwbhich they were in. Aaron Mansker has only been a Coronado police officer for a little more than a year, maybe he didn't know the correct callsigns