die cowboys die wrote:LA's only viable option is relocation, as there will most likely never be any further NFL expansion. as others have pointed out, adding a new team would lead to uneven divisions and a messy playoff situation. the only possible degree of expansion at this point would be to add 4 new teams in each conference to preserve evenly-sized divisions. this is a bad idea for innumerable reasons, the primary one being dilution of talent. it's already hard enough to fill an entire roster with high-caliber football players. with 8 new teams the entire NFL would be plunged into varying degrees of mediocrity.
I firmly believe there will be a day when we have 40 NFL teams. It will not happen in the near run, or even the intermediate run, but if 2056 rolls around and there are still just 32 NFL teams, I would shocked.
As football expands internationally, there will not be any shortage of talent.
you make a good point i hadn't considered, SSIII. with international expansion there will be a larger talent pool. so i guess the issue that remains to be worked out is, "the chicken or the egg?" do they expand first, and suffer a while with imbalanced divisions or mediocre play, while they raise foreign popularity/prospects? or is there a way to become really popular in other countries without first having a team there?
I find it hard to believe that the NFL will be much more than it is already in Europe. Soccer and rugby are both too big to allow much more than is NFL Europe today. Both those codes are actually growing.
I think that this can only be done by re-locating a team.
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
I've been viewing the comments on this subject for quite some time now, and I believe that whether a new team or a relocated one, the key sticking point is where the team will play.
I believe this new team will play outside Los Angeles, but still within reach.
You see, I have learned from those wiser than myself, that the suburbs of Los Angeles could support a franchise.
Think about this: if you were to combine Riverside, Orange and San Bernardino counties, you would have the third largest metropolitan area in the country.
This approach was taken in the mid-1970s by the World Football League. Anaheim was hungry and eager for a pro football team, and got the WFL Southern California Sun to play their home games at Anaheim Stadium. In 1980, just a few years after the WFL ended, the Rams moved to Anaheim, thus opening up the Coliseum for the Raiders and setting off the whole franchise movement debacle which we now have in major professional sports today.
I believe, in my heart, that an NFL franchise could be placed in the Los Angeles suburbs and get very good ticket sales. And the franchise would still be in the number two television market in this country.
I think that the Brooklyn Dodgers are going to relocate to LA.
Teams that I have seen played in LA: Rams (with limited success and eventual failure) and Raiders (with no success at all).
LA is not an NFL town.
My prediction is a move: The New Orleans Saints will become the LA Devils (at least for a few seasons then back to NO).
Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
c'ville's right - relocation is the only way in the next few years and there are a few that could but right now the favorite for this option would have to be the Chargers. This is an option that some teams like to have to be able to "threaten" the locals with.
congrats on the quadruple 4 RiC!! double posting again
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
As long as we're on the subject of another team in Los Angeles, let me ask: If we put another team in the City of the Angels, why don't we name it in honor of the greatest eam ever to call Los Angeles home? This team is sort of an underground legend in this day and age, but still, we could bring this name back, and even the color scheme too.
The Thunderbirds.
Yep, the Los Angeles T-Birds!
We could even retire the number 8, in honor of the "Guatemalan Flyer", Ralph Dwight Valladares.
Man, that would be a game to watch. Redskins vs. T-Birds!
LA should, by rights, have Red Grange's Chicago Cardinals, who moved to St Louis, who then moved to a city so obscure that the team has taken the name of a state. Maybe the Bidwell family could make something of a franchise in the second largest city in the country if they had it all to themsleves.
Or the Chargers could move back. They played their first season or two in LA.
I believe that the major problem for many years has been LA's failure to construct an appropriate venue. If LA can't get that done, why should we feel even a hint of sympathy?
LA, even when it has had a team, has failed to support it. An entire fan base of "fair weather" fans. Now, there's a foundation to build on!
"That's a clown question, bro" - - - - - - - - - - Bryce Harper, DC Statesman "But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man That he didn't, didn't already have" - - - - - - - - - - Dewey Bunnell, America
LOS ANGELES (AP) - The City Council voted Friday to spend $25 million on improvements around the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum in hopes of luring an NFL team back to the city.
Under the plan, the city Community Redevelopment Agency would issue $25 million in bonds for street widening, site clearing and other work near the Coliseum, which would be paid for by expected tax revenue from the stadium. In coming years, the city estimates it could spend up to $121 million more for additional transit and other improvements, which would also be funded by stadium taxes.
Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has said public funds will not be used for a proposed $800 million renovation at the Coliseum. The city-funded improvements approved by the Council amount to incentives to make the city's NFL pitch more attractive.
Okay, first off I don't get why they would put the team in The Coliseum, that place is straight up nasty.
Sure it's got history, but it's a terrible stadium.
If anything they should at least play the games at The Rose Bowl, at least that stadium still works.
However what I hope for the most is that they don't bring in some stupid new expansion team like [/u]The Los Angeles Destroyers[/u] and end up screwing up all the divisions.
They should just bring down some low revenue team that has a low fanbase; like The Chargers, The Bills or The Dolphins, The Saints...
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Brilliant. I believe that the reason the last two teams left was because the city's answer to requests for a new stadium was "we'll upgrade the Coliseum". Yeah... that'll work.
Maybe LA needs an "Easy Button" to help solve this.
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die cowboys die wrote:LA's only viable option is relocation, as there will most likely never be any further NFL expansion. as others have pointed out, adding a new team would lead to uneven divisions and a messy playoff situation. the only possible degree of expansion at this point would be to add 4 new teams in each conference to preserve evenly-sized divisions. this is a bad idea for innumerable reasons, the primary one being dilution of talent. it's already hard enough to fill an entire roster with high-caliber football players. with 8 new teams the entire NFL would be plunged into varying degrees of mediocrity.
Not really. There have been unbalanced divisions in the past. There has even been an odd number of teams league-wide. There would only have to be at least one team with a bye each week of the season to make it work.
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