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1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:35 pm

Cap Hell Rocks!

Don't hate us because we're beautiful.

No more blank, wondering stares, confused head scratching, frothing emotional outbursts, conspiracy theories or embarrassing, dismissive references to 2000. The Washington Redskins are the central theme of every NFL team message board out there. Here's a message to you all from all ExtremeSkins fans everywhere.

It's time to embrace the reality of it all. Simply, we're better than you.

That's it. Look no further. We are better than you. We're more fun. It feels better to be us. We've got flair. We're audacious, capricious, bodacious, supercalifragilisticxpalidocious.

Are you finally getting it?

Yes, yes, I know cap hell was supposed to be upon us. I know that's what you've been told. I feel for you, I really do. As you come to realize we're better than you, a second bit of stark reality must also penetrate. We're smarter than them.

Repeat after me.

The Washington Redskins are managed, coached and owned by highly professional people who know more about running a football franchise than ALL the unnamed, anonymous sources any reporter has yanked from the broom closet and quoted.

Don't take my word for it. Take the following words for it.

Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randle El, Adam Archuleta, Andre Carter, Todd Collins, Christian Fauria.

The question you all should be asking isn't, "How is all this possible?" No. The question should be, "How didn't we know this was all possible?"

Six years of assurances cap hell was on the way and you still allowed yourself to believe the tripe. Perhaps busting the cap hell myth as it relates to the Washington Redskins is just too painful a thing for media and fans of other teams to do.

Like a child coming to the harsh knowledge Santa doesn't exist, the media and opposing teams' fans are struggling desperately to hang on to the fiction that cap hell is on the way for the Redskins despite--literally--YEARS of demonstrated contrary evidence.

Here's the best part.

You don't have to hate us for what we're doing. You can do it, too.

"The thing I want to emphasize is this: We haven't done one thing that anybody else can't do," Joe Gibbs said after the introductory press conference for Andre Carter. "We have certain rules in the league. Here's the cap, here's the numbers, here's what you can spend, so everybody in the league can do what we're doing, it's just that they choose not to, many of them."

Deep down, this is really the issue, isn't it? You can do it too and you know it, but, your team doesn't do it, so, you have a hard choice. Hate your team, or hate us.

Say you're a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles. You always have all those many millions available, which somehow never seem to get spent. All week you're hearing how you have LeCharles Bentley locked up as your free agent masterstroke to solidify your offensive line.

You are giddy. You're thrilled. You know this is the guy you need. He fills a need and makes it a strength. You're excited about the prospects of adding such a substantial piece. Then, the Cleveland Browns call, offer a few more bucks to Bentley and Bentley winds up in Cleveland leaving you with nothing more than whimpering excuses that Bentley is from Cleveland and always wanted to play there.

Oh, hush.

Antwaan Randle El is from Chicago. He's always wanted to play there. Yet he's playing in D.C. Adam Archuleta admits he adores Lovie Smith after years playing for him with St. Louis and wanted to play with him in Chicago. Yet he's playing in D.C. Andre Carter just had to meet the Broncos because his father played there 12 years and he envisioned being the second generation of his family with the team. Yet he's playing in D.C.

And it's driving you crazy because you were so excited and thrilled about the prospects of adding a good player your management and owner can't figure out how to land while we get EVERY single player we shoot at.

We get to actually live the thrill and giddiness you only get to brush up against. And it's killing you.

Did we pay a premium for generally young players entering their prime with years left to play in the NFL? You bet we did. Kind of like when the Eagles lock up their own young players for a premium before they really emerge on the scene and everyone calls that genius. Think of it like that, only, with the component of actually being smart because an expensive 24-year-old promising receiver suddenly becomes a very cheap 26-year-old receiver when he grabs 80 balls.

See, we already had good players under contract. Now we have more.

As you struggle to find words to describe the coming cap doom heading our way, try to process one final thought. When you have that free agent you need all lined up and you don't get him, well, isn't that really what cap hell feels like?

I wouldn't know, because I don't ever have to feel that way.

By Arthur Mills - ES.com

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:41 pm

This guy really does some nice pieces from time to time.
Nice find, 'niks.

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:24 pm

Oh man, that owns!

Mursilis · Post by **Mursilis** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:59 pm

1niksder wrote:Cap Hell Rocks!

It's time to embrace the reality of it all. Simply, we're better than you.

Actually, we're not, at least until we go all the way in the post-season (which is looking better and better). The only measure that matters is getting to the playoffs, and then winning the big dance. I'm happy with our signings so far, but it's too early to brag.

mulkey · Post by **mulkey** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:50 pm

Lets put it this way... If you were a betting man, knowing what Joe Jackson Gibbs has done in the past. Do you bet against him, or for him. I know where my money is going....
Skins Rock!!!

xhadow · Post by **xhadow** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:13 pm

Great Post!!! you said what we all are thinking

rick301 · Post by **rick301** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:21 pm

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:28 pm

Talking about being boastful and cocky. Just hope the Bears, Eagles, and Denver don't do better this year.

screwgun · Post by **screwgun** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:28 am

Sweet post. Couldn't have said it better. I believe most haters are jealous that they didn't think of it first.

gottoloveit · Post by **gottoloveit** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:08 am

typical off-season B.S. from the Redskin faithful - we here the same crap every year and every year you dont produce.

Punu · Post by **Punu** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:15 am

typical off-season B.S. from the Redskin faithful - we here the same crap every year and every year you dont produce.

so i'm guessing you were in a coma for the 05 season, cuz I saw a REDSKINS team that produced!

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:16 am

gottoloveit wrote:typical off-season B.S. from the Redskin faithful - we here the same crap every year and every year you dont produce.

Irony at its best....

AZHog · Post by **AZHog** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am

gottoloveit wrote:typical off-season B.S. from the Redskin faithful - we here the same crap every year and every year you dont produce.

10-6...Lost to NFC Champion in the second round of the playoffs...won last five regular season games...had the second-ranked WR in the NFL...highly ranked defense...swept two division rivals (Cowpukes, Iggles)...what am I missing here?

How has this off-season shaped up? Well, we've added two quality WRs to compliment Santana Moss...hired one of the greatest offensive minds in the game...added a solid SS and a potentially explosive DE...and the draft is still over a month away.

You see, it took Joe Gibbs (3-time Superbowl winner, HOF HC) one season to turn around a loosing franchise. Now, he's begun molding this team into his prototype winner: balanced offense and aggressive defense. So...just curious...what's that about "not producing" again? :lol:

gottoloveit · Post by **gottoloveit** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:26 am

What a laugh, get over yourselves - you dont scare anyone in the NFL

1 win and 5 losses against the superior AFC teams in 2005 (including playoffs)? You consider that good? You couldnt contend in this league if Jesus himself was coaching this team (Oh, wait the second coming has arrived - Joe Gibbs what a joke)

does that satisfy your curiosity?

Mursilis · Post by **Mursilis** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:33 am

gottoloveit wrote:typical off-season B.S. from the Redskin faithful - we here the same crap every year and every year you dont produce.

Somewhere, a bridge is missing its troll.

So which team's bandwagon will you be jumping aboard this year?

gay4pacman · Post by **gay4pacman** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:34 am

gottalove being a troll.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:36 am

gottoloveit wrote:What a laugh, get over yourselves - you dont scare anyone in the NFL

1 win and 5 losses against the superior AFC teams in 2005 (including playoffs)? You consider that good? You couldnt contend in this league if Jesus himself was coaching this team (Oh, wait the second coming has arrived - Joe Gibbs what a joke)

does that satisfy your curiosity?

Please, these lame arguments are getting old? What did your team do in the playoffs this past season? Weren't you the main one on here saying the cowboys were going to redeem themselves against us in the 2nd game? Where were you when the pukes got blown out by us? You dont get any respect because you only come out after the storm. When was the last time your team made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs? Are you sad because Gibbs team got better in its sophmore year unlike the Cowgirls who went into a slump for the 2nd year in a row?

gottoloveit wrote:1 win and 5 losses against the superior AFC teams in 2005 (including playoffs)? You consider that good?

Where did beating the AFC teams get you? A 1st row ticket at home watching us right?

So you're team couldn't beat this team which is "weak" according to you. Since you can't beat a weak team that makes your team weakER. Im glad you came to that conclusion for us.

redskins12287 · Post by **redskins12287** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:37 am

gottoloveit wrote:What a laugh, get over yourselves - you dont scare anyone in the NFL

1 win and 5 losses against the superior AFC teams in 2005 (including playoffs)? You consider that good? You couldnt contend in this league if Jesus himself was coaching this team (Oh, wait the second coming has arrived - Joe Gibbs what a joke)

does that satisfy your curiosity?

Well even if Jesus came down from heaven to coach a team, he would pick the 'skins, him and Joe go way back.

My best friend is a Dallas fan, and even with the TO signing, he is very scared of the 'skins, and I hardly see how anyone who knows anything about football or the nfl would not see them as a serious team.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:50 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
gottoloveit wrote:What a laugh, get over yourselves - you dont scare anyone in the NFL

1 win and 5 losses against the superior AFC teams in 2005 (including playoffs)? You consider that good? You couldnt contend in this league if Jesus himself was coaching this team (Oh, wait the second coming has arrived - Joe Gibbs what a joke)

does that satisfy your curiosity?

Please, these lame arguments are getting old? What did your team do in the playoffs this past season? Weren't you the main one on here saying the cowboys were going to redeem themselves against us in the 2nd game? Where were you when the pukes got blown out by us? You dont get any respect because you only come out after the storm. When was the last time your team made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs? Are you sad because Gibbs team got better in its sophmore year unlike the Cowgirls who went into a slump for the 2nd year in a row?

gottoloveit wrote:1 win and 5 losses against the superior AFC teams in 2005 (including playoffs)? You consider that good?

Where did beating the AFC teams get you? A 1st row ticket at home watching us right?

So you're team couldn't beat this team which is "weak" according to you. Since you can't beat a weak team that makes your team weakER. Im glad you came to that conclusion for us.

He's not a 'Pie fan, he's a fan of the team from the burg that's the Pitts. That's why he is trolling here.

Punu · Post by **Punu** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:04 pm

What a laugh, get over yourselves - you dont scare anyone in the NFL

1 win and 5 losses against the superior AFC teams in 2005 (including playoffs)? You consider that good? You couldnt contend in this league if Jesus himself was coaching this team (Oh, wait the second coming has arrived - Joe Gibbs what a joke)

does that satisfy your curiosity?

your one of those ppl who watch sportscenter once a month and recap in the paper monday morning cuz you barely ever watch football and your scared of losing respect from your peers when their talk'n football and you have no idea what's going on. So you look at the scores and make a comment or two out your butt and feel you know something about the REDSKINS and come here to be flamer! hahahaha! You do not consider anything but a WIN OR LOSS when making a post. But hey, all that matters is a "W" right? I'll give you that. (Insightful NFL fans respect and consider a lot more, find out why and how a team lost or won) Well let's take a look at our season.

Chicago Bears 9/11/2005 Win 9 - 7 - Got by the best defense.
@ Dallas Cowboys 9/19/2005 Win 14 - 13
Seattle Seahawks 10/2/2005 Win 20 - 17(OT)
@ Denver Broncos 10/9/2005 Loss 19 - 21 - Great game vs. a great team, earned our respect here.
@ Kansas City Chiefs 10/16/2005 Loss 21 - 28 - close again.
San Francisco 49ers 10/23/2005 Win 52 - 17 - showed that were on another level of teams.
@ New York Giants 10/30/2005 Loss 0 - 36 flat out loss.
Philadelphia Eagles 11/6/2005 Win 17 - 10
@ Tampa Bay Buccaneers 11/13/2005 Loss 35 - 36 BS 2pt conv. well a know it.
Oakland Raiders 11/20/2005 Loss 13 - 16
San Diego Chargers 11/27/2005 Loss 17 - 23(OT) <-- you can see now that we played that division very tight, shame we lost, but we were in it to the end every game!
Then just like a top tier team, we knew what we had to do, and we did it! 5 IN A ROW!
@ St. Louis Rams 12/4/2005 Win 24 - 9
@ Arizona Cardinals 12/11/2005 Win 17 - 13
Dallas Cowboys 12/18/2005 Win 35 - 7
New York Giants 12/24/2005 Win 35 - 20
@ Philadelphia Eagles 1/1/2006 Win 31 - 20

stop talk'n out your ass

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:44 pm

gottoloveit wrote:What a laugh, get over yourselves - you dont scare anyone in the NFL

1 win and 5 losses against the superior AFC teams in 2005 (including playoffs)? You consider that good? You couldnt contend in this league if Jesus himself was coaching this team (Oh, wait the second coming has arrived - Joe Gibbs what a joke)

does that satisfy your curiosity?

What would a troll thread be without a visit from a resident troll. I guess since he's just being a troll in a thread about trolls, then I guess I'll consider it on-topic.

But gottaloveit... I gave you a forum in Smack last time and you chose to ignore it... I told you that if you continued to flame threads in the general forums that I would just dump your account... so do as you wish... but there's no extra rope left in the noose just because you took a week off. In fact, there's a good chance I'll find ample reasning before you even read this.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:28 pm

Its just a matter of time...

Primetime42 · Post by **Primetime42** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:04 pm

No offense, but I think I'll actually start "hating" when the spending culminates in a championship of some kind.

SkinsFanInHawai'i · Post by **SkinsFanInHawai'i** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:08 pm

Primetime42 wrote:No offense, but I think I'll actually start "hating" when the spending culminates in a championship of some kind.

Yeah because Washington gets a higher SC than all the other teams.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:13 pm

Primetime42 wrote:No offense, but I think I'll actually start "hating" when the spending culminates in a championship of some kind.

You should hate inherently or geneticially or automatically or whatever ... honestly, Dallas could go 0-450 and I'd still hate that team

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