No offense intended law hog, I was just wondering if I missed something.
With all due respect, 1707 views likely doesn't equate to much more than a couple of hundred users viewing a thread several times.... some of them dozens and dozens of times. You also have to realize that a lot of members have a tendency to hibernate once the Redskins' season comes to a close.
You'll have to make a lot more than one post for people to get to know who you are...
We don't 'edit' people's posts... well unless they break rules and refuse to edit them themselves. We believe very much in providing a forum where people can express their opinion regardless of what it is... as long as it's within the framework of the rules... you won't EVER see one of your posts get edited.
And once you've been here for a while... you'll know that.
As many of you know by now, I believe the key to understanding any criminal law matter is to first examine the applicable statutes. In the Shawn Springs case, they are as follows:
§ 46.2-862. Exceeding speed limit.
A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives a motor vehicle on the highways in the Commonwealth (i) at a speed of twenty miles per hour or more in excess of the applicable maximum speed limit where the applicable speed limit is thirty miles per hour or less, (ii) at a speed of sixty miles per hour or more where the applicable maximum speed limit is thirty-five miles per hour, (iii) at a speed of twenty miles per hour or more in excess of the applicable maximum speed limits where the applicable maximum speed limit is forty miles per hour or more, or (iv) in excess of eighty miles per hour regardless of the applicable maximum speed limit.
§ 46.2-868. Reckless driving; penalties.
A. Every person convicted of reckless driving under the provisions of this article shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
§ 46.2-392. Suspension of license or issuance of a restricted license on conviction of reckless or aggressive driving; probationary conditions required; generally.
In addition to the penalties for reckless driving prescribed in § 46.2-868 and the penalties for aggressive driving prescribed in § 46.2-868.1, the court may suspend the driver's license issued to a person convicted of reckless driving or aggressive driving for a period of not less than 10 days nor more than six months and the court shall require the convicted person to surrender his license so suspended to the court where it will be disposed of in accordance with § 46.2-398.
In Virginia, a Class 1 misdemeanor penalty for violations is confinement in jail for not more than 12 months and/or a fine of not more than $2,500.
According to the case details of Case No. GT05035985-00 (Commonwealth of VA v. Shawn Aaron Springs), Shawn was arrested on 09/02/05 and charged with Reckless Driving (98/65), code section 46.2-862, a class 1 misdemeanor. His attorney continued the case from 12/02/05 to 12/08/05 and then again to 01/19/06 where he enterd a plea of guilty. He paid a fine of $500.00 and court costs of $91.00 on 01/30/06. He was sentencd to 30 days but 29 of those days were suspended. His license was also suspended for 6 months.
The key to understanding this case is that in Virginia, if it can be proved by the D.A. that you drove over the speed limit by an amount specified in the reckless driving statute, you are guilty of not just speeding,a summary traffic offense, but reckless driving, a misdemeanor. As the maximum penalty for reckless driving can be up to 1 year in jail plus $2500.00 fine, a 30 day sentence with 29 days suspended and a $500.00 fine is a pretty good plea result.
Shawn's attorney must not have had a valid defense to the charge. The explanation that Shawn apparently gave to the officer of being late for work was not helpful to his attorney in getting Shawn the best possible result. As anything that a potential defendant says to a police officer can and will be used against him, the best thing that a potential defendant can do is say "I want to speak to my attorney," and then nothing else. Police officers are trained to elicit responses that will be used against the potential defendant later. No doubt the officer asked Shawn, "Why are you going so fast?" or something of the like. Shawn fell into his trap and responded with a statement that could be used as an admission.
The bottom line for Redskins fans is that the adjudication of this case will not affect Shawn's employment as a defensive back in any way. I'm sure that he will have many volunteers to drive him to practice.
Well personally I feel the adjudication of the dibobulation has a lot to do with equation of matters and such. jargan jargan law law law. With more chornificated policies implemented in justice I see fit for him to face no time. Court court jail. Thus rendering me to make up more big words, babble and pretend I understand law.
Don't matter where you are.... YOU'RE IN REDSKINS COUNTRY!
A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives a motor vehicle on the highways in the Commonwealth (i) at a speed of twenty miles per hour or more in excess of the applicable maximum speed limit where the applicable speed limit is thirty miles per hour or less, (ii) at a speed of sixty miles per hour or more where the applicable maximum speed limit is thirty-five miles per hour, (iii) at a speed of twenty miles per hour or more in excess of the applicable maximum speed limits where the applicable maximum speed limit is forty miles per hour or more, or (iv) in excess of eighty miles per hour regardless of the applicable maximum speed limit.
§ 46.2-868. Reckless driving; penalties.
Hey LawHog.......if I'm reading this right then 20 miles per hour over the speed limit is reckless driving in Virginia?!?!?!!??! Somebody told me the law got changed and its now 15 miles per hour over........So which one is it? I gotta know dude!
The easiest solution -- go 5-7 over the limit max and get there a few minutes later...it's so much easier. I have a 19 year old daughter and 17 year old son, I preach this all the time, only to see it fall on deaf ears.
20 years ago I drove on the Dulles Access road when there were 2 cops -- seriously. I drove for a limo company and the word was -- see both cops at the terminal - drive as fast as you want to the Beltway. With all the cops out there now, go 5-7 mph over, turn up the radio and relax.
tcwest10 wrote:I think JansenFan might've passed Springs like he was standing still.
Nah, not with this suspended license.
RIP 21
"Nah, I trust the laws of nature to stay constant. I don't pray that the sun will rise tomorrow, and I don't need to pray that someone will beat the Cowboys in the playoffs." - Irn-Bru
Redskins CB Springs spends night in jail By the Associated Press February 4, 2006
LEESBURG, Va. -- Washington Redskins cornerback Shawn Springs spent a night in jail this week stemming from a September arrest on reckless driving charges.
Springs was stopped Sept. 2 on the Dulles Greenway after his 2003 Mercedes was clocked at 98 mph in a 65-mph zone, Virginia State Police Sgt. Terry Licklider said Friday night.
Springs spent Tuesday night in the Loudoun County Jail as part of his sentence for a Jan. 19 conviction, said Kraig Troxell, a spokesman for the county sheriff's department.
Springs was also fined and had his driver's license suspended for six months.
He played 15 games this season, his second with the Redskins after spending his first seven with the Seattle Seahawks.
rick301 wrote:..I hope that has learned from this 'experience.'.
You also may be in for a learning "experience" from the "search" police.
Thanks for the info, but an article was posted by Jake last Saturday, I think.
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
You've been keeping it clean, I see. . .