T.O. in Redskins' Uniform???

[Skeletor]

Hate to take anything away from the LJ for CP trade, but did you guys catch this from Adam Shefter on NFL.com?

T.O. FOR T.O.
More and more, it's looking as if the Eagles are going to be able to extract some form of compensation for disgruntled wide receiver Terrell Owens.

Sports Illustrated's Peter King will be reporting on Wednesday night's Inside the NFL that the Redskins are the latest entrant into the T.O. sweepstakes, and definitely the most intriguing. Redskins owner Daniel Snyder thrives on making high-profile acquisitions, like this one would be. Plus, it would be yet another boost to a Redskins offense that already has added offensive coordintor Al Saunders.

But now that the Redskins are involved, and possibly willing to give up a first-day draft pick, the Cowboys are likely to follow suit. Hard to imagine Cowboys owner Jerry Jones just sitting back and watching Snyder add another marketable commodity to his stable in Washington without doing anything.

Also, Chiefs president Carl Peterson is saying that Kansas City needs to take a look at T.O., shortly after Kansas City's division rival Broncos brought T.O. to Denver for a visit.

The Dolphins are interested, the Buccaneers will be interested, and so, amazingly, there will be no shortage of suitors for Owens, who now looks destined to be dealt.

Smart money is now on Washington. Redskins are the favorite.

[Redskin in Canada]

Here we go again (in this board). Another waste of valuable thread space. T.O. is not coming here. Not now, not ever under Joe Gibbs.

Ah! Did anybody say cap space for those who doubt Joe about character issues. It has been said a few times already: It is the offseason. hen there is a lack of stories, why not INVENT them!

For the record, I would not support T.O. even if he begged to come here for free.

[fan4life28]

NO! NO! NO! NOOO! There is NO WAY that TO is coming here! reasons why:

1. Not a Gibbs kinda guy.

2. Dan Snyder used to thrive on making "high-profile acquisitions". He let's joe make all of the decisions now.

3. WAAAAAAYYYY to much $$$$$.

4. Since when has the media talking about the redskins ever made any sense?



If TO comes here i will spend a week doing this...

[rick301]

I say go after him only if the price and contract terms are favorable for the skins ... but that's not Danny's was.

Danny - remember all the high profile players brought in that didn't live up to expecatations?

I hope Gibbs can talk some sense into Danny.

But maybe this is a ruse to get the 'boys to overspend for TO (who becomes disruptive in their lockerroom) and instead get an Antwaan Randle El type player?

[USAFSkinFan]

Not gonna happen! Danny's learned his lesson. I'm sure he'd just like to drive the price up for whoever lands him.

[gus]

Here we go again (in this board). Another waste of valuable thread space.

indeed.

[riggofan]

Its not like this guy on NFL.com or Peter King or whoever seem to be wildly speculating. If Snyder is looking at it, then it could in fact happen.

btw Its amazing how many players in the league have publicly said they would like T.O. on their team. Even on the Eagles, T.O. still had an amazing amount of supporters on the team. I heard Chad Johnson on the radio yesterday saying that alot of the story about what happened there isn't out.

Not saying I like the guy. Just saying.

[Steve Spurrier III]

I personally hope we don't trade for Owens, but if we are planning to give Brunell one more season, adding Owens might not be the worst idea.

Due to the quarterback situation, the Redskins have a very small window of opportunity to compete right now with the aging Mark Brunell - so investing in Owens for 2006 might be able to put the Redskins over the hump and make a legitimate Super Bowl run before we have to let Campbell take over.

Worst case scenario - he acts like a lunatic and we get rid of him. Best case scenario - he keeps his mouth shut long enough to elevate the Redskins to a championship.

Again, I'd rather just let Campbell play in 2006 and be ready to compete in 2007 - but if we are going to give Brunell one more shot, we my as well give him as much talent as possible.

[skinsRin]

Yup! here we go again with the TO thing. I mentioned it before but it does not suprise me that a bunch of teams want him and the Skins included. Synder has always wanted TO, he tried to trade for him during his last season with the 49ers before the trade deadline but the 9ers said no.

[The Hogster]

The only way I would support this trade is if Terrell Owens fired Rosenhaus, and we signed him to a contract that was good for the team.

Here's the link to the story of NFL.com : http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9201384

I am not a big fan of Terrell Owens anymore, he showed just how destructive he could be...but maybe if we put him under a gag order in his contract where he was forbidden from discussing certain things in the media then it could work.

AHHH...I don't support this idea, but if he came here I would get used to it. This seems eerily similar to how the news broke on us making that trade last year to acquire Denver's draft pick in the 1st round. It came out the same way and then happened.

We will know if it is true or not based on if Terrell visits or if Gibbs himself flies out to see him.

[The Hogster]

I wonder what Santana Moss would be thinking?

Why would we have acquired Al Saunders if we were gonna stack our roster with a guy like T.O. I mean if Gibbs were gonna take a risk on a guy like T.O. wouldn't he want to be involved in the day to day management of the guy?

How would a receiver like T.O. be for the development of Jason Campbell?

I can just see him yelling at JC next year on the sideline for not throwing him the ball. I dunno about this one...don't really believe it.

[patjam77]

I wonder what Santana Moss would be thinking?

Why would we have acquired Al Saunders if we were gonna stack our roster with a guy like T.O. I mean if Gibbs were gonna take a risk on a guy like T.O. wouldn't he want to be involved in the day to day management of the guy?

How would a receiver like T.O. be for the development of Jason Campbell?

I can just see him yelling at JC next year on the sideline for not throwing him the ball. I dunno about this one...don't really believe it.

you have good points but just for a second forget about T.O.'s baggage... Who would a defense double team? Moss? OK, over the top to Owens... T.O.? OK, over the top to Moss... double them both? OK... run portis up the gut for 5 yards a clip everytime. The thought of a WR with the skills of T.O. are interesting. Everyone one of you say that whatever Gibbs does you'll go along with because he has proven himself over and over again. Well if he brought in T.O. wouldnt you go along with it because for whatever reason Gibbs felt the need and the want?

I know it's all speculative and the Skins will always be in these kind of rumors... but you simply cannot say no to this guy playing in a Skins' uniform. He's good and he'll be good for whoever gets him this offseason.

[ChrisHanburger]

I wonder what Santana Moss would be thinking?

Why would we have acquired Al Saunders if we were gonna stack our roster with a guy like T.O. I mean if Gibbs were gonna take a risk on a guy like T.O. wouldn't he want to be involved in the day to day management of the guy?

How would a receiver like T.O. be for the development of Jason Campbell?

I can just see him yelling at JC next year on the sideline for not throwing him the ball. I dunno about this one...don't really believe it.

you have good points but just for a second forget about T.O.'s baggage... Who would a defense double team? Moss? OK, over the top to Owens... T.O.? OK, over the top to Moss... double them both? OK... run portis up the gut for 5 yards a clip everytime. The thought of a WR with the skills of T.O. are interesting. Everyone one of you say that whatever Gibbs does you'll go along with because he has proven himself over and over again. Well if he brought in T.O. wouldnt you go along with it because for whatever reason Gibbs felt the need and the want?

I know it's all speculative and the Skins will always be in these kind of rumors... but you simply cannot say no to this guy playing in a Skins' uniform. He's good and he'll be good for whoever gets him this offseason.

I've said it before, the team that gets TO next year is going to have a great reciever who will keep his mouth shut. If anything, just just so he can prove everyone is wrong about him. Its the following year I'd worry about. I really hope he doesn't go to the 'Boys.

I'm also on record saying I would HATE the idea of him being a Redskin.

I like the theory that Snyder's driving up the price for Dallas. I choose to believe that (just so I can feel better).

[Skeletor]

I've had an uneasy feeling for some time that TO might end up in D.C. for a couple of reason.

1) Rosenhaus has a good relationship with the Skins. He got CP a new contract and that's primarily what convinced TO to go with Rosenhaus. I think TO believes Snyder will pay him the money he wants.

2) Redskins have a need, and let's face it, on the field, there is no better WR in the game today than TO.

3) TO would like nothing more than to be able to stick it to the Eagles, and playing them twice a year has got to be a big incentive, as would helping the Redskins surplant Philly as the dominant force.

I'm not saying it will happen, and I definately not saying I want it to happen, but I think these are three factors that would support it.

While everybody is dumping all over Snyder on this one, let's remember that Gibbs is still running the team and making personel decisions. Snyder may find a way to make it work under the cap, but it's still Gibbs' call.

I'll bet you right now, if TO comes to the Redskins, the media will say it's because Snyder can't control himself. If they get Reggie Wayne or Randle-El, it will be because Gibbs made a brilliant move. Gibbs will gets the credit if the media likes the move and Snyder will get all the blame if they don't.

[portis26]

I think it is T.O. or the Eagles leaking that the Redskins are interested just to drive up the price.

[Jake]

I think it is T.O. or the Eagles leaking that the Redskins are interested just to drive up the price.

I hope so. Better them leaking it than us. I think we will never come out and say we want Terrell and I don't think we will get him or even TRY to get him.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/w ... ngs/1.html

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9201384

[Steve Spurrier III]

I like the theory that Snyder's driving up the price for Dallas. I choose to believe that (just so I can feel better).

The problem with that is anything extra the Cowboys have to give up goes to the Eagles, who are probably the bigger long-term threat. I'm not sure how an increased Owens' pricetag really helps the Redskins.

[DarthMonk]

Well ... if we believe Gibbs (and I do) the number one issue is "CHARACTER", the number two issue is "INTELLIGENCE", and "TALENT" comes in a distant 3rd. It would therefore be shocking if we aquired T. O., especially since Gibbs is team president.

[RedskinsFreak]

Hate to take anything away from the LJ for CP trade, but did you guys catch this from Adam Shefter on NFL.com?

T.O. FOR T.O.
More and more, it's looking as if the Eagles are going to be able to extract some form of compensation for disgruntled wide receiver Terrell Owens.

Sports Illustrated's Peter King will be reporting on Wednesday night's Inside the NFL that the Redskins are the latest entrant into the T.O. sweepstakes, and definitely the most intriguing. Redskins owner Daniel Snyder thrives on making high-profile acquisitions, like this one would be.

USED TO. Got him nothing but ridicule and losing records.

King (and others like him) haven't taken their blinders off in so long that they haven't seen the Redskins aren't the National Bank of Snyder anymore. DC is no longer the Home of the Last Payday for aging and unwanted veterans.

I pray this doesn't happen. There's no plus side to it. None at all.

[trey53]

Yes, but Gibbs has had players of questionable character on the teams before. Granted NONE of them were detrimental to the team itself. Maybe that is because Gibbs is such a great communicator and manager. Regardless, TO would be an amazing player for the Skins to pick up ON the field. I completely agree with Hanburger's assessment, however, that all he's gonna give you is one year of keeping his mouth shut. After that all bets are off. I personally think we can get a much less costly, more committed large bodied WR to fill in the #2 role. The problem is that if we were able to land TO that would virtually seal a place for us in the Superbowl next year (barring signifcant injuries). Like PatJam said: Who would you cover?

In the end the ONLY constant rule in the NFL is WIN. TO is a jerk. But he's a jerk that vastly improves your team in the short term...while destroying it in the long term. I don't think we can rule him out of the equation until he signs with a team. I would be dissappointed if that was us...until he takes a 5 yd slant to the house for 70 yds. And then I would be bitter when he goes back to his usual antics because $25 million just ain't enough.

[DCGloryYears828791]

If Coach Gibbs wants T.O. here next year, then im all for it, if he says he doesn't want him here then im all for it. We are on the right track because Joe got us back on the right track and he would not bring someone here who he thought would jeopardize our shot at going back to the playoffs for one and a superbowl second.

In JOe i trust. Portis, ey, Moss, Owens, Patten. LIke the guy before said, who do you double team?

How long before training camp?

[Skeletor]

Thanks for posting the link to the Peter King column. It's interesting that Shefter says: The Reskins ARE the latest entry, and King says, I THINK Redskins will be a factor before it's all done.

That's quite a different story. had I seen King's column first, I wouldn't have posted it. That sounds like speculation.

Shefter couched it as the Redskins having already thrown their hat in the ring.

Hopefully this is all just media driven speculation. But I still worry...

[WuSkinsFan]

Why would we have acquired Al Saunders if we were gonna stack our roster with a guy like T.O. I mean if Gibbs were gonna take a risk on a guy like T.O. wouldn't he want to be involved in the day to day management of the guy?

Maybe Al Saunders convinced Gibbs he could handle T.O.?

Just playing devil's advocate. I hope T.O. ends up in the AFC.

[The Hogster]

I wonder what Santana Moss would be thinking?

Why would we have acquired Al Saunders if we were gonna stack our roster with a guy like T.O. I mean if Gibbs were gonna take a risk on a guy like T.O. wouldn't he want to be involved in the day to day management of the guy?

How would a receiver like T.O. be for the development of Jason Campbell?

I can just see him yelling at JC next year on the sideline for not throwing him the ball. I dunno about this one...don't really believe it.

you have good points but just for a second forget about T.O.'s baggage... Who would a defense double team? Moss? OK, over the top to Owens... T.O.? OK, over the top to Moss... double them both? OK... run portis up the gut for 5 yards a clip everytime. The thought of a WR with the skills of T.O. are interesting. Everyone one of you say that whatever Gibbs does you'll go along with because he has proven himself over and over again. Well if he brought in T.O. wouldnt you go along with it because for whatever reason Gibbs felt the need and the want?

I know it's all speculative and the Skins will always be in these kind of rumors... but you simply cannot say no to this guy playing in a Skins' uniform. He's good and he'll be good for whoever gets him this offseason.

I never said no to him...check back to my earlier posts. For the same reasons that you mentioned, I would not object to him coming here. As of right now his baggage concerns me because I feel like we are building something special as far as team goes. Something like the Steelers have and the Pats have...a solid engine with interchangable parts.

I am just not sure if he would be happy being a 'co-number 1" receiver or a #2 receiver. I think with him and Moss on the field at the same time, opposing defenses would have a WORLD of trouble everytime they face us..if Gibbs thinks that he would be in the mold of a Riggins type character...then fine.

But right now I think T.O. will only become a perfect teammate when these things happen:

1) He gets the contract that he wants and probably deserves (which is probably gonna be more than what Santana has right now)

2) He can catch 80-100 passes (difficult but possible considering Gibbs has had 3 1000 yd receivers in the past and the Cardinals had two guys with over 90 grabs last year)

3) The team gives him the ball in critical situations and we are winning.

If all three of those things happen at the same time, TO will be a great addition. Problem is some of his baggage has prevented that in the past.

In San Fran: He was getting the ball, but not enough....his contract was terrible and the team was losing.

In Philly he was getting the ball and the team was winning but his contract was not satisfactory.

Wherever he goes next year they need to make sure that all 3 of the Keys to TO's happiness are met, otherwise he will either withdraw or act out.

Maybe sitting out a year he will reallize that less is sometimes more...who knows.

[air_hog]

Well I said no.


And I still do.