Sean Taylor...What Now? (w/ spitting footage)

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:13 pm

The sad part is that it looked like he missed. ;furious;

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:13 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Clear evidence.

http://media.putfile.com/Taylor-edit29

Is it me, or did the TV coverage not show at least half of the PA announcement the ref made?

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:16 pm

Jake wrote:Best evidence yet. Way to lie to Gregg, Sean.

He's got to cut this crap out.

Yeah, I dont know how this is going to fly with the coaches. Its better to admit to it than to lie, once you break that trust....

This boy is a moron who CAN YOU BREAK THE TRUST OF THE ONLY PEOPLE STICKING UP FOR YOU!

Think about your pending trial case! Do you think that this is going by unnoticed? :roll:

I can't defend him anymore.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:20 pm

Ok, so, if Taylor had hit Pittman instead of spitting on him (I actually couldn't see it on that video because it wasn't playing right, but I take everyone's word for it), and Pittman had hit back, they would've both been ejected a la the Atlanta-Philly skirmish way back in September?

I'll admit, spitting is low, be how can the retaliation be ignored?

SkinsChic · Post by **SkinsChic** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:21 pm

Ouch...that's bad !!

joebagadonuts · Post by **joebagadonuts** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:22 pm

this is a good thing. now sean will have an additional half a game of pent up energy and frustration to take out on the 'hawks.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:24 pm

cvillehog wrote:Ok, so, if Taylor had hit Pittman instead of spitting on him (I actually couldn't see it on that video because it wasn't playing right, but I take everyone's word for it), and Pittman had hit back, they would've both been ejected a la the Atlanta-Philly skirmish way back in September?

I'll admit, spitting is low, be how can the retaliation be ignored?

It was the refs personal decision I believe. Anyone who gets spat on gets a free pass 85% of the time. I dont blame Pitman for hitting him either. Let someone spit on you and see how you take it.

But we all know Pitman like to hit on woman too, so he's no angel.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:36 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
cvillehog wrote:Ok, so, if Taylor had hit Pittman instead of spitting on him (I actually couldn't see it on that video because it wasn't playing right, but I take everyone's word for it), and Pittman had hit back, they would've both been ejected a la the Atlanta-Philly skirmish way back in September?

I'll admit, spitting is low, be how can the retaliation be ignored?

It was the refs personal decision I believe. Anyone who gets spat on gets a free pass 85% of the time. I dont blame Pitman for hitting him either. Let someone spit on you and see how you take it.

But we all know Pitman like to hit on woman too, so he's no angel.

Oh, no, I don't blame Pitman for hitting Sean. Now, if Sean Taylor spit on me, I would probably just back away and maybe call a lawyer or something, but if I had biceps like Pitman's, I'd probably do more than take a swing at him.

I'm just trying to get the standard straight. It seems to me that, with this judgement call, all anyone has to do if they want to punch sean (or anyone) from now on is claim he spit on them.

Spitting on someone is something you might expect a toddler to do, not a grown man. True, the act itself is a small step back for Sean, and lying about it is a larger step back, but I haven't lost all hope that he can continue to mature and become the kind of player Gibbs wants around.

Skins Stud 5 · Post by **Skins Stud 5** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:07 pm

Is it me or did it more or less look like slobber falling on the ground in front of pittman. theres a difference between spitting in someones face and spitting at their feet.

Im a sean taylor fan so maybe I'm a lil biased but the blob in between the helmets at first is pittmans chin strap...the next thing u see is a blob falling to the ground which im guessing is the spit the ref saw

USAFSkinFan · Post by **USAFSkinFan** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:50 pm

wierd how you could see it so clear on that little 3" clip, but I watched it 10 times on my 50" in high def and couldn't see a thing...

TexasSkin · Post by **TexasSkin** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:04 pm

Nor did I

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:08 pm

Oh man, that just ruined my day...

:cry:

Come on Sean, I know your passionate and all about the game, which I like, but you got to remember, your teamates and your fans are counting on you.

DaveButzguy · Post by **DaveButzguy** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:48 pm

Funny how a video comes out after the fact. The spit is way to clear. I think it's fake and added to the video, kinda of a photo shop bit.....Nothing even close to this was shown on the regular TV coverage....I don't buy it.....maybe i'm just a homer, but it seems way too fishy...........

Skinna Mob · Post by **Skinna Mob** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:28 pm

Per Comcast sports they will be showing footage at 10pm est from NFL films. Which shows a different angle that they say definitely shows Taylor spitting...tune in at 10pm comcast sports

Punu · Post by **Punu** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:29 pm

yeah it was on sounds of the game last night... there's all kinds of stories behind it... people are saying it was changed and so forth...

blchizzleke · Post by **blchizzleke** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:08 pm

For anyone who doesn't believe the video evidence, they also played it on NFL Network and I doubt that the NFL Network has a "Photoshop Scandal" against Sean Taylor. He is still a freak, so I definetely do not think he should be suspended.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:44 pm

It's a conspiracy against Sean Taylor. My bet is that Pittman is an ATV dealer somewhere. :roll:

DaveButzguy · Post by **DaveButzguy** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:12 am

I just seems weird. The actual game footage you don't see a thing. Then this comes out and there it is plain as day. Is one camera better at picking up spit flying than another.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:16 am

DaveButzguy wrote:I just seems weird. The actual game footage you don't see a thing. Then this comes out and there it is plain as day. Is one camera better at picking up spit flying than another.

I think NFL films uses Film, rather than video, which should show more. Also, the difference in angle, focal length, and how closely zoomed the shots are.

SkinzCanes · Post by **SkinzCanes** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:10 am

Best evidence yet. Way to lie to Gregg, Sean. icon_rolleyes.gif

You're assuming that Taylor actually lied to GW. There is no way any of us can know what Taylor actually said to his coaches and teammates. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Taylor actually told them that he spit at Pittman. GW isn't going to come out and in front of the media admit that Taylor told him that he spit. He isn't that stupid and doesn't want his most talented player suspended for a playoff game.

There is still one thing about this that I don't understand....how could he have spit at Pittman through his mouthguard? You can't see if on this latest video but I seem to recall from the video that they showed during the game that Taylor's mouthgaurd was still in during this incident. Seems possible to me that with a moutgaurd in and then trying to yell at someone some spit could come out.

SkinsChic · Post by **SkinsChic** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:49 am

I don't think Greg would lie to us in public either. He said after the game that Sean told him he didn't spit and that he believed him unless otherwise proven.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:12 am

SkinzCanes wrote:
Best evidence yet. Way to lie to Gregg, Sean. icon_rolleyes.gif

You're assuming that Taylor actually lied to GW. There is no way any of us can know what Taylor actually said to his coaches and teammates. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Taylor actually told them that he spit at Pittman. GW isn't going to come out and in front of the media admit that Taylor told him that he spit. He isn't that stupid and doesn't want his most talented player suspended for a playoff game.

There is still one thing about this that I don't understand....how could he have spit at Pittman through his mouthguard? You can't see if on this latest video but I seem to recall from the video that they showed during the game that Taylor's mouthgaurd was still in during this incident. Seems possible to me that with a moutgaurd in and then trying to yell at someone some spit could come out.

I'm going by what GREGG said. Gregg said that Taylor denied spitting, so obviously he IS that stupid.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:23 am

Because I am a fan and, therefore, not required to be objective I'd like to point out that the tape only offers evidence that Taylor spit. It does not prove that he spit at or on anyone.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:41 am

Fios wrote:Because I am a fan and, therefore, not required to be objective I'd like to point out that the tape only offers evidence that Taylor spit. It does not prove that he spit at or on anyone.

You make a valid point but I will argue that with the way Taylor has whiffed on tackles this season his aim is quite questionable.

patjam77 · Post by **patjam77** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:57 pm

i apologize in advance if this should be somewhere else so please don't trash me...

did anyone else see sportscenter last night about the "new" footage from the nfl network showing taylor spitting on pittman? it looked really contrived and i haven't been able to find anyhting more about this "new" footage anywhere... does anyone else have any info on this?

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