Taylor Jacobs

[roybus14]

The flee-flicker play yesterday showed everyone that Taylor Jacobs is a bust. How is it that a player can get to the pro level as a wideout and not know how to catch a sideline pass?

He is several years removed from the "Spurida" Gators where you are allowed to only have one foot in bounds. So as an NFL Receiver, he has to drag that foot and make that catch. We need to cut our losses on him and move on....

[hkHog]

I agree completely. An NFL WR should make that catch.

[frankcal20]

Man that was a bad throw. He made the catch but to make the catch he had to fully extend his body, make the catch, not bobble, and get both feet down. His first foot got down but the other one was less than a fraction of not dragging. Even the commentators said it was too close to call if that toe dragged or not.

[admin]

So we beat the Cowboys... no wait... we absolutely DEMORALIZED the Cowboys... and you want to talk about Taylor jacobs definitely not being an NFL calibre player because he din't pull in a sideline tightrope catch?

Aren't you the guy that waanted me to ban someone because you didn't like their opinion?

People in glass houses... :-"

I'm not defending Jacobs... he hasn't done much to prove that he CAN play in the NFL... but not because of that play. I'm on the record as saying that he has been a bust too...

But I sure don't need to talk about it when I'm floating on a post-Cowboy-thrashing-euphoric-high. Some of you people are just sadists and must do it solely for the purpose of denying yourself any positive feelings and emotions. Wouldn't it be nice to spend a week talking about the fact that we just handed our biggest rivalry's butts to them?

Anyone who has spent any time here should know that I welcome all of you to express your opinion... whatever it is... do it within the framework of the rules and you'll get no problems from the staff. And there's certainly no problems with this post from a rules stand point and you're all welcome to chime in appropriately.

But i ask this... those of you that seek to bring misery upon yourselves... go away for a couple of days... come back later when those of us that have been waiting for over 10 years for a Redskin performance like that on Sunday, have at least had a couple of days to enjoy it.

[die cowboys die]

Man that was a bad throw. He made the catch but to make the catch he had to fully extend his body, make the catch, not bobble, and get both feet down. His first foot got down but the other one was less than a fraction of not dragging. Even the commentators said it was too close to call if that toe dragged or not.

agreed. TJ was wide open, the ball sailed way to high/wide.

that being said, who cares?? if we can keep running it like we did yesterday, we won't need any frickin' flea flickers to win.

[Redskin in Canada]

But i ask this... those of you that seek to bring misery upon yourselves... go away for a couple of days... come back later when those of us that have been waiting for over 10 years for a Redskin performance like that on Sunday, have at least had a couple of days to enjoy it.

What HE said. Cheers!

[roybus14]

So we beat the Cowboys... no wait... we absolutely DEMORALIZED the Cowboys... and you want to talk about Taylor jacobs definitely not being an NFL calibre player because he din't pull in a sideline tightrope catch?

Aren't you the guy that waanted me to ban someone because you didn't like their opinion?

People in glass houses... :-"

I'm not defending Jacobs... he hasn't done much to prove that he CAN play in the NFL... but not because of that play. I'm on the record as saying that he has been a bust too...

But I sure don't need to talk about it when I'm floating on a post-Cowboy-thrashing-euphoric-high. Some of you people are just sadists and must do it solely for the purpose of denying yourself any positive feelings and emotions. Wouldn't it be nice to spend a week talking about the fact that we just handed our biggest rivalry's butts to them?

Anyone who has spent any time here should know that I welcome all of you to express your opinion... whatever it is... do it within the framework of the rules and you'll get no problems from the staff. And there's certainly no problems with this post from a rules stand point and you're all welcome to chime in appropriately.

But i ask this... those of you that seek to bring misery upon yourselves... go away for a couple of days... come back later when those of us that have been waiting for over 10 years for a Redskin performance like that on Sunday have at least had a couple of days to enjoy it.

I welcome everybody's opinion. My "ban" was just an opinion. You have ultimate authority over who get's banned and who doesn't.

Now, on to your other comments. I have been acting a fool at work to those Cowpuke fans on my job. That's just one of the things I have been doing to celebrate, so I too am full of joy, relief, you name it.

But as much joy as I've had over the past 16-18 hours, I am also keeping things in perspective with what we have on the field. The win was a great win but just like in all wins in any sport, there are still things that make you go ummm!! Taylor Jacobs is one of them.....

But let me ask you this: I wonder are Gibbs and staff celebrating right now?

Probably not. The Giants.....The Giants.....The Giants

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

Man that was a bad throw. He made the catch but to make the catch he had to fully extend his body, make the catch, not bobble, and get both feet down. His first foot got down but the other one was less than a fraction of not dragging. Even the commentators said it was too close to call if that toe dragged or not.

agreed. TJ was wide open, the ball sailed way to high/wide.

that being said, who cares?? if we can keep running it like we did yesterday, we won't need any frickin' flea flickers to win.

I'm actually glad the flea flicker didn't work. Sure, it hurt my boy Mark's stats, but I thought it was unbecoming of a Redskins team to run one of Dallas' trademark "jap" plays.

It was cool to have the staf throw pie in the face of the Pukes by trying to hit them with their own medicine, but, ultimately, it was more satisfying to have Redskins football sweep the 2005 Cowboys off their feet and into the record books.

[Chris Luva Luva]

Brunell has Jacobs open on a couple of plays but he didn't hit him.

The flea flicker was thrown badly. Brunell waited too long.

[cvillehog]

Brunell has Jacobs open on a couple of plays but he didn't hit him.

The flea flicker was thrown badly. Brunell waited too long.

All the same, we really trounced those boys from Brokeback Mountain, and Brunell had his second-best QB rating of the year.

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

The flea flicker was thrown badly. Brunell waited too long.

Admittedly, it looked like the ball fluttered to get there, despite Brunell looking like he put everything in it to get there. Again, though, I'm glad he made that bad throw, because, in the end, he made the throws that put us in a position to win the game.

Thank goodness, too, that he threw 4 TD passes. I don't know if I could take another week of people bemoaning the offense's lack of execution, right Chris?

[BossHog]

You have ultimate authority over who get's banned and who doesn't.

No the staff and moderators do, i'm just one of them... and ultimately it's the individual who has the 'choice' because you'll get ample warning from us that it is coming if you so choose not to obey rules... and that's the only way you'll ever get banned... from breaking rules... not for your opinion... regardless of what it is.

But as much joy as I've had over the past 16-18 hours, I am also keeping things in perspective with what we have on the field. The win was a great win but just like in all wins in any sport, there are still things that make you go ummm!! Taylor Jacobs is one of them.....

That's the point. I understand that there are things that weren't perfect or need to be improved on... super. But we just beat our arch-nemesis twice in the same season for the first time since 1995 and I don't think it's a lot to ask that you hold off on your 'concerns' for a little bit... let alone griping the same night of the biggest win in recent memory.

Sure you're allowed to have opinions... sure you're allowed to have concerns... but why do you have to start expressing them the MOMENT we've just finished demolishing the cowboys? And you're a fan... allow YOURSELF the grace of enjoying the win and not worrying about what went wrong in a game that saw very little go wrong. Cripes it's football... there is NEVER GOING TO BE A PERFECTLY PLAYED GAME... there are going to be mistakes.

But let me ask you this: I wonder are Gibbs and staff celebrating right now?

You're not the coach, neither am I. How is it remotely comparable? I do know that the coach thought that it was okay to give the players a couple of days off to revel in it though. So by your same logic... if the players are being allowed to bask in the glory... shouldn't the fans also be?

[wbbradb]

Yeah, you guys are nit-picking about Taylor Jacobs???

This is from the Dallas Star-Telegram:

"...were it not for a meaningless, fourth-quarter touchdown pass from Bledsoe to Jason Witten, Sunday's loss would have been the worst December defeat in the franchise's 46-season history."

Come on! Nearly their worst defeat ever in December!!! This is one to savor. Also, read "Humiliating Defeat Could Linger for Years" http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/13441161.htm.

[Redskin in Canada]

there are still things that make you go ummm!! Taylor Jacobs is one of them.....

And while you are at it, Why not blame Betts for the Randy's injury, Samuels for the penalty that stalled the drive, Sean Taylor for the face to the mask, Brunell for missed passes, Portis for missed holes, Joe Gibbs for ...

Oh! I forgot. Because:

We are Redskins FANS, not a bunch of nagging, ungrateful, negative, Puke/Philthy/Gints fans. That's why.

Yeah, you guys are nit-picking about Taylor Jacobs???

Crazy eh?

[roybus14]

You have ultimate authority over who get's banned and who doesn't.

No the staff and moderators do, i'm just one of them... and ultimately it's the individual who has the 'choice' because you'll get ample warning from us that it is coming if you so choose not to obey rules... and that's the only way you'll ever get banned... from breaking rules... not for your opinion... regardless of what it is.

But as much joy as I've had over the past 16-18 hours, I am also keeping things in perspective with what we have on the field. The win was a great win but just like in all wins in any sport, there are still things that make you go ummm!! Taylor Jacobs is one of them.....

That's the point. I understand that there are things that weren't perfect or need to be improved on... super. But we just beat our arch-nemesis twice in the same season for the first time since 1995 and I don't think it's a lot to ask that you hold off on your 'concerns' for a little bit... let alone griping the same night of the biggest win in recent memory.

Sure you're allowed to have opinions... sure you're allowed to have concerns... but why do you have to start expressing them the MOMENT we've just finished demolishing the cowboys? And you're a fan... allow YOURSELF the grace of enjoying the win and not worrying about what went wrong in a game that saw very little go wrong. Cripes it's football... there is NEVER GOING TO BE A PERFECTLY PLAYED GAME... there are going to be mistakes.

But let me ask you this: I wonder are Gibbs and staff celebrating right now?

You're not the coach, neither am I. How is it remotely comparable? I do know that the coach thought that it was okay to give the players a couple of days off to revel in it though. So by your same logic... if the players are being allowed to bask in the glory... shouldn't the fans also be?

Point taken.....

[Gibbs4Life]

Monday I was on a high from our win , today I'm still thrilled but at the same time like Gibbs "I see the monster coming" and their names are MANNING BARBER SHOCKEY STRAHAN and of course UMENYORA(whatever the dude's name is) those cats are definately a few notches better than Dallas mostly because they RUN the football.

[Snout]

The flee-flicker play yesterday showed everyone that Taylor Jacobs is a bust. How is it that a player can get to the pro level as a wideout and not know how to catch a sideline pass?

I have to agree.

It's a good thing I live 7000 miles away, because I think I would go crazy being a Redskins fan in DC. When the Redskins lose the sky is falling, and when the Redskins win, we complain because we don't get any respect.

The Redskins are improving, the are on the way to returning to greatness, and I am thrilled. I am also thrilled that we thrashed the enemy. But the fact is that we still have some weaknesses.

One of our weaknesses was that before the Dallas game we were not getting enough pressure from our DL. Sunday was different, and I am happy for and proud of our DL.

Another weakness was that we were not getting any production from our second and third wide receivers. Unfortunately, that did not improve. When you completely thrash your arch-rival in the best performance of the year, but your second wide receiver does not have a single catch, it's a glaring weakness.

This in no way detracts from the enjoyment of whallopping Dallas. It is just an objective statement of fact. If we want to get to the next level, we need some production from all of our wide receivers.

[tcwest10]

I thought the kid was in, myself. I also thought Santana had that 41 yarder good for the score.
Two challenges I might've made, were I coach.
...but I'm not, and we're all better off for it.

[Riggo44]

Taylor Jacobs has had sufficient chance to prove himself and he hasn't done so. He's not the #2 receiver we need to compliment Moss. Period. I agree that we're all ecstatic about trouncing the cowboys and are eagerly awaiting the giants, but I don't think it's out of line to be discussing Taylor Jacobs. That's what message boards are for- a place where you can discuss your thoughts with other knowledgable fans.

[BossHog]

That's what message boards are for- a place where you can discuss your thoughts with other knowledgable fans.

Wow, really?

Thanks for the clarification.

Man... I better open up a text book and learn a little bit about this new internet thingy.

[Riggo44]

Sorry- seem to have touched a nerve. I'll make sure to always agree with you from now on. I'd rather save the arguing for the Giants fans this weekend.

[SkinsJock]

I'm a glass half full kind of fan and I think what we saw was a pretty good rendition. I also am not looking for perfection and just want to see the same intensity from everyone this week and everything else will take care of itself.
I like the fact that some of these players still have a couple more weeks to show what the coaches saw in them that got them on the field.

This is the final 2 weeks, we have just beaten our worst enemy, we are still in the running for the NFC East AND the #2 seed. It's all good! I'm actually excited that Ray Brown is getting an opportunity (I'm sure we are going to miss Thomas) I mean that is what it's all about - we are a team and we are starting to play like the Redskins - well almost!

Please do not get into disecting too much right now - we need to win this game this week.

[BossHog]

Sorry- seem to have touched a nerve..

Are you new here. You're giving yourself WAY too much credit sir... I assure you that I'm pretty much oblivious to anything anyone says when it comes to emotions... it's part of maintaining this site and board. The sarcasm was because you missed the point entitely... I assure you that I understand that a message board is for 'discussing your thoughts with other knowledgable fans'... that's why I started this board in the first place. That's also why I've spent thousands of hours in the last few years creating a place and an environment where people can express their opinions freely.

And that includes me personally expressing my own opinion.

And my opinon in this instance is that trying to find something to gripe about in a 35-7 shellacking of our arch-rivals makes you a sadist. And so I asked all of the sadists to leave those of us that were able to enjoy a win to do so for a little bit.

Nobody made anyone stop posting anything... nobody locked a thread... nobody deleted anything... I just expressed my opinion.

... because message boards are a place for discussing your thoughts with knowledgeable fans.

I'll make sure to always agree with you from now on.

I couldn't possibly care less what your opinion is... honest... I mean that most sincerely.

[fredp45]

back to Taylor Jacobs....

I'm a homer, I admit it...but, I'm not yet convinced he's a bust. Has anyone noticed how long it takes Wr's to come around in the NFL? Some excel immediately but others take awhile to learn how to play in the NFL. I don't think Santana Moss knocked anyone dead in his first few years. Andre Johnson with the Texans -- he was drafted very high a few years back and is just now coming around (he actually had a better year last year but the Texans stink all around this year).

I also think QBs have a favorite guy to throw to, and Brunnel likes Moss and ey. I've seen Thrash and Jacobs (and Patten earlier in the year) open this year for sure but Brunnel gives them a glance and then looks for Moss, ey or Portis.

Jacobs has been a hurt a bunch too so he hasn't been able to really get consistency...I predict he'll be fine. I sure wouldn't give up on him yet.

[roybus14]

back to Taylor Jacobs....

I'm a homer, I admit it...but, I'm not yet convinced he's a bust. Has anyone noticed how long it takes Wr's to come around in the NFL? Some excel immediately but others take awhile to learn how to play in the NFL. I don't think Santana Moss knocked anyone dead in his first few years. Andre Johnson with the Texans -- he was drafted very high a few years back and is just now coming around (he actually had a better year last year but the Texans stink all around this year).

I also think QBs have a favorite guy to throw to, and Brunnel likes Moss and ey. I've seen Thrash and Jacobs (and Patten earlier in the year) open this year for sure but Brunnel gives them a glance and then looks for Moss, ey or Portis.

Jacobs has been a hurt a bunch too so he hasn't been able to really get consistency...I predict he'll be fine. I sure wouldn't give up on him yet.

I think that him being hurt has covered up the fact that he can't play. Brunell likes Moss and ey because they get it done.

As far as it taking years to develop, when will Thrash develop then? He's been in the league for quite a few years and is still the same.

I've read that the ball fluttered or it was a bad throw but if you look at the replay, he did not make any attempt at all to get that second foot down. Now I've seen WRs still try to get two down and their toes were well out of bounds. Jacobs didn't make any attempt to get that second toe down at all. I don't see us wasting any more time on him because we already have a WR "in development" with Thrash............