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Did anyone else notice this?

Head coach Marty Schottenheimer, served as head coach of the Redskins in 2001.
Linebackers coach Greg Manusky, coached linebackers for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant wide receivers-quality control coach Pete Carmichael, Jr., served as offensive assistant for Redskins in 2001.
Strength and conditioning coach Dave Redding, served as strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant strength and conditioning coach Matt Schiotz, served as assistant strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Quarterbacks coach Brian Schottenheimer, served as quarterbacks coach for Redskins in 2001.

http://www.redskins.com/gameday/


Pretty wild that many of the same coaches from our 8-8 season with Marty followed him to San Diego. Just goes to show that a little stability goes a long way -- I only hope we can keep our coaches together for the next few years.
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Go through the Chargers history, their are many ties between our two franchises.
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Yeah, like Joe Gibbs!
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AZHog wrote:Did anyone else notice this?

Head coach Marty Schottenheimer, served as head coach of the Redskins in 2001.
Linebackers coach Greg Manusky, coached linebackers for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant wide receivers-quality control coach Pete Carmichael, Jr., served as offensive assistant for Redskins in 2001.
Strength and conditioning coach Dave Redding, served as strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant strength and conditioning coach Matt Schiotz, served as assistant strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Quarterbacks coach Brian Schottenheimer, served as quarterbacks coach for Redskins in 2001.

http://www.redskins.com/gameday/


Pretty wild that many of the same coaches from our 8-8 season with Marty followed him to San Diego. Just goes to show that a little stability goes a long way -- I only hope we can keep our coaches together for the next few years.


yeah, but also notice who is NOT there, the incomprehensibly incompetent offensive coordinator he cursed us with in 2001- Jimmy Raye. there is no way any person who actually watched the 2001 season could POSSIBLY think we were going anywhere with the "Blindfolded Monkey Throwing Darts at a Playbook" offensive system we used in 2001.

trust me, Captain Schitty has absolutely nothing to do with any success San Diego has, and everything to do with any failures it has (IE: choking in the playoffs, etc).
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die cowboys die wrote:
AZHog wrote:Did anyone else notice this?

Head coach Marty Schottenheimer, served as head coach of the Redskins in 2001.
Linebackers coach Greg Manusky, coached linebackers for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant wide receivers-quality control coach Pete Carmichael, Jr., served as offensive assistant for Redskins in 2001.
Strength and conditioning coach Dave Redding, served as strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant strength and conditioning coach Matt Schiotz, served as assistant strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Quarterbacks coach Brian Schottenheimer, served as quarterbacks coach for Redskins in 2001.

http://www.redskins.com/gameday/


Pretty wild that many of the same coaches from our 8-8 season with Marty followed him to San Diego. Just goes to show that a little stability goes a long way -- I only hope we can keep our coaches together for the next few years.


yeah, but also notice who is NOT there, the incomprehensibly incompetent offensive coordinator he cursed us with in 2001- Jimmy Raye. there is no way any person who actually watched the 2001 season could POSSIBLY think we were going anywhere with the "Blindfolded Monkey Throwing Darts at a Playbook" offensive system we used in 2001.

trust me, Captain Schitty has absolutely nothing to do with any success San Diego has, and everything to do with any failures it has (IE: choking in the playoffs, etc).


Come on now. You don't think Schottenheimer is an outstanding coach? I don't much like his style, but I reckon the last three years would have been a lot less futile if he had stayed. But then we wouldn't have had Gibbs back, so I'm grateful he went.
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UK Skins Fan wrote:
die cowboys die wrote:
AZHog wrote:Did anyone else notice this?

Head coach Marty Schottenheimer, served as head coach of the Redskins in 2001.
Linebackers coach Greg Manusky, coached linebackers for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant wide receivers-quality control coach Pete Carmichael, Jr., served as offensive assistant for Redskins in 2001.
Strength and conditioning coach Dave Redding, served as strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant strength and conditioning coach Matt Schiotz, served as assistant strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Quarterbacks coach Brian Schottenheimer, served as quarterbacks coach for Redskins in 2001.

http://www.redskins.com/gameday/


Pretty wild that many of the same coaches from our 8-8 season with Marty followed him to San Diego. Just goes to show that a little stability goes a long way -- I only hope we can keep our coaches together for the next few years.


yeah, but also notice who is NOT there, the incomprehensibly incompetent offensive coordinator he cursed us with in 2001- Jimmy Raye. there is no way any person who actually watched the 2001 season could POSSIBLY think we were going anywhere with the "Blindfolded Monkey Throwing Darts at a Playbook" offensive system we used in 2001.

trust me, Captain Schitty has absolutely nothing to do with any success San Diego has, and everything to do with any failures it has (IE: choking in the playoffs, etc).


Come on now. You don't think Schottenheimer is an outstanding coach? I don't much like his style, but I reckon the last three years would have been a lot less futile if he had stayed. But then we wouldn't have had Gibbs back, so I'm grateful he went.


no, and i don't think there is any way to possibly think he is an ouststanding coach, after the crapjob he did here in 2001. he proved himself to be criminally incompetent in every possible facet of his responsibility here. he ran an impossibly idiotic offensive scheme, alienated his players, and HE DRAFTED ROD GARDNER!!!! one pick before santana moss, i might add!

look at the playoffs last year. Schitty choked, and lost the game for his team, like he will always do when it counts.
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die cowboys die wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
die cowboys die wrote:
AZHog wrote:Did anyone else notice this?

Head coach Marty Schottenheimer, served as head coach of the Redskins in 2001.
Linebackers coach Greg Manusky, coached linebackers for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant wide receivers-quality control coach Pete Carmichael, Jr., served as offensive assistant for Redskins in 2001.
Strength and conditioning coach Dave Redding, served as strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant strength and conditioning coach Matt Schiotz, served as assistant strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Quarterbacks coach Brian Schottenheimer, served as quarterbacks coach for Redskins in 2001.

http://www.redskins.com/gameday/


Pretty wild that many of the same coaches from our 8-8 season with Marty followed him to San Diego. Just goes to show that a little stability goes a long way -- I only hope we can keep our coaches together for the next few years.


yeah, but also notice who is NOT there, the incomprehensibly incompetent offensive coordinator he cursed us with in 2001- Jimmy Raye. there is no way any person who actually watched the 2001 season could POSSIBLY think we were going anywhere with the "Blindfolded Monkey Throwing Darts at a Playbook" offensive system we used in 2001.

trust me, Captain Schitty has absolutely nothing to do with any success San Diego has, and everything to do with any failures it has (IE: choking in the playoffs, etc).


Come on now. You don't think Schottenheimer is an outstanding coach? I don't much like his style, but I reckon the last three years would have been a lot less futile if he had stayed. But then we wouldn't have had Gibbs back, so I'm grateful he went.


no, and i don't think there is any way to possibly think he is an ouststanding coach, after the crapjob he did here in 2001. he proved himself to be criminally incompetent in every possible facet of his responsibility here. he ran an impossibly idiotic offensive scheme, alienated his players, and HE DRAFTED ROD GARDNER!!!! one pick before santana moss, i might add!

look at the playoffs last year. Schitty choked, and lost the game for his team, like he will always do when it counts.


And Joe Gibbs drafted Desmond Howard. Right now, I'd love to see this team in with a chance of choking in the playoffs.

Look, I don't want to turn this into a thread about the merits of Schottenheimer, but the man's record says he's a damn fine coach, who doesn't seem able to get his teams over the playoff hump. The crap job that he did in DC was an 8-8 season, which is one hell of an achievement in DC in recent years. He may be past his best, but the records show that his best is pretty good.
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JansenFan wrote:Go through the Chargers history, their are many ties between our two franchises.


how bout bobby beathard as well who also brought in joe gibbs when they both came to washington back in the glory days of old.

those were the days. :)
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UK Skins Fan wrote:
die cowboys die wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
die cowboys die wrote:
AZHog wrote:Did anyone else notice this?

Head coach Marty Schottenheimer, served as head coach of the Redskins in 2001.
Linebackers coach Greg Manusky, coached linebackers for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant wide receivers-quality control coach Pete Carmichael, Jr., served as offensive assistant for Redskins in 2001.
Strength and conditioning coach Dave Redding, served as strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Assistant strength and conditioning coach Matt Schiotz, served as assistant strength and conditioning coach for Redskins in 2001.
Quarterbacks coach Brian Schottenheimer, served as quarterbacks coach for Redskins in 2001.

http://www.redskins.com/gameday/


Pretty wild that many of the same coaches from our 8-8 season with Marty followed him to San Diego. Just goes to show that a little stability goes a long way -- I only hope we can keep our coaches together for the next few years.


yeah, but also notice who is NOT there, the incomprehensibly incompetent offensive coordinator he cursed us with in 2001- Jimmy Raye. there is no way any person who actually watched the 2001 season could POSSIBLY think we were going anywhere with the "Blindfolded Monkey Throwing Darts at a Playbook" offensive system we used in 2001.

trust me, Captain Schitty has absolutely nothing to do with any success San Diego has, and everything to do with any failures it has (IE: choking in the playoffs, etc).


Come on now. You don't think Schottenheimer is an outstanding coach? I don't much like his style, but I reckon the last three years would have been a lot less futile if he had stayed. But then we wouldn't have had Gibbs back, so I'm grateful he went.


no, and i don't think there is any way to possibly think he is an ouststanding coach, after the crapjob he did here in 2001. he proved himself to be criminally incompetent in every possible facet of his responsibility here. he ran an impossibly idiotic offensive scheme, alienated his players, and HE DRAFTED ROD GARDNER!!!! one pick before santana moss, i might add!

look at the playoffs last year. Schitty choked, and lost the game for his team, like he will always do when it counts.


And Joe Gibbs drafted Desmond Howard. Right now, I'd love to see this team in with a chance of choking in the playoffs.

Look, I don't want to turn this into a thread about the merits of Schottenheimer, but the man's record says he's a damn fine coach, who doesn't seem able to get his teams over the playoff hump. The crap job that he did in DC was an 8-8 season, which is one hell of an achievement in DC in recent years. He may be past his best, but the records show that his best is pretty good.


look, i understand where you're coming from. from a numbers/stats standpoint, one would think he is a good coach. but were you unfortunate enough to have followed the 'skins in 2001 while he was here? there is no possible question that the man is first of all, inherently and completely unlikeable, and secondly, a thoroughly incompetent coach in every facet.
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die cowboys die said:
look, i understand where you're coming from. from a numbers/stats standpoint, one would think he is a good coach. but were you unfortunate enough to have followed the 'skins in 2001 while he was here? there is no possible question that the man is first of all, inherently and completely unlikeable, and secondly, a thoroughly incompetent coach in every facet.


Well, for the sake of keeping the thread on topic, we'll agree to disagree!
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Crap job he did here. 8-8 for his first year is pretty good. Well its better than 6-10 his first year. He also got Fred Smoot, Bryan Johnson, Mcants, Pierce all good players in that draft. He cut Stubblefield, which was a great move. If we kept Schotnheimer we would have been in the playoffs the last couple of years instead of the crap seasons we have now. Well this season isn't over so who knows. But the ones before hand.
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John Manfreda wrote:Crap job he did here. 8-8 for his first year is pretty good. Well its better than 6-10 his first year. He also got Fred Smoot, Bryan Johnson, Mcants, Pierce all good players in that draft. He cut Stubblefield, which was a great move. If we kept Schotnheimer we would have been in the playoffs the last couple of years instead of the crap seasons we have now. Well this season isn't over so who knows. But the ones before hand.


i may be wrong, but i am pretty darn sure one of the main reasons Schitty was fired was because he refused to heed snyder's request for a new offensive coordinator. please don't ever tell me that you honestly believe jimmy raye had the slightest clue what he was doing? the "Blindfolded Monkey Throwing Darts at a Playbook" Offense (which got us ranked what, 28th in total offense that year, despite davis running for over 1400 yards?) was NEVER going to get us ANYWHERE people.

if Schitty was too incredibly stupid to realize that, he has absolutely no business being a football coach. amazing. (that of course is aside from how he completely alienated his whole team. and don't tell me that's a natural response to sudden discipline-- gibbs imposes discipline better than anyone, and there were only a couple jerks that wanted out when he came).
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John Manfreda wrote:Crap job he did here. 8-8 for his first year is pretty good. Well its better than 6-10 his first year. He also got Fred Smoot, Bryan Johnson, Mcants, Pierce all good players in that draft. He cut Stubblefield, which was a great move. If we kept Schotnheimer we would have been in the playoffs the last couple of years instead of the crap seasons we have now. Well this season isn't over so who knows. But the ones before hand.


i may be wrong, but i am pretty darn sure one of the main reasons Schitty was fired was because he refused to heed snyder's request for a new offensive coordinator. please don't ever tell me that you honestly believe jimmy raye had the slightest clue what he was doing? the "Blindfolded Monkey Throwing Darts at a Playbook" Offense (which got us ranked what, 28th in total offense that year, despite davis running for over 1400 yards?) was NEVER going to get us ANYWHERE people.

if Schitty was too incredibly stupid to realize that, he has absolutely no business being a football coach. amazing. (that of course is aside from how he completely alienated his whole team. and don't tell me that's a natural response to sudden discipline-- gibbs imposes discipline better than anyone, and there were only a couple jerks that wanted out when he came).

It wasn't just Jimmy Raye that chased Marty away. He came in with basically the same deal Gibbs has. After the first year "the Danny" tried to tweek his involement in running the team (which he all but gave away when he signed Marty). Shotty felt "the Danny" was changing the "hands off" agreement that they had and headed west.

He started 0-5 but closed the season 8-3, that should have gotten him atleast another year.
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die cowboys die wrote:
John Manfreda wrote:Crap job he did here. 8-8 for his first year is pretty good. Well its better than 6-10 his first year. He also got Fred Smoot, Bryan Johnson, Mcants, Pierce all good players in that draft. He cut Stubblefield, which was a great move. If we kept Schotnheimer we would have been in the playoffs the last couple of years instead of the crap seasons we have now. Well this season isn't over so who knows. But the ones before hand.


i may be wrong, but i am pretty darn sure one of the main reasons Schitty was fired was because he refused to heed snyder's request for a new offensive coordinator. please don't ever tell me that you honestly believe jimmy raye had the slightest clue what he was doing? the "Blindfolded Monkey Throwing Darts at a Playbook" Offense (which got us ranked what, 28th in total offense that year, despite davis running for over 1400 yards?) was NEVER going to get us ANYWHERE people.

if Schitty was too incredibly stupid to realize that, he has absolutely no business being a football coach. amazing. (that of course is aside from how he completely alienated his whole team. and don't tell me that's a natural response to sudden discipline-- gibbs imposes discipline better than anyone, and there were only a couple jerks that wanted out when he came).

With the way the Skins have been playing since Marty has left, I am just going to base this off single season records. Firing him was a huge mistake. He was taking us farther than anyone we have now. Gibbs isn't done, but by the way it looks, yes it looks like Marty was going to take us farther.
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