We need Defensive lineman!!!!!!!!!!!

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:18 pm

I dont know how times Ive sat back and watch the opposing Qb sit back on a lawn chair in that pocket. I cant be the only one whos noticed this. We have bums in at all four dlinemen positions. Gosh man and can we please hold on to the ball ahhhhhh mann. hewwww well Know we have to win out to get a good grip on a playoff spot I hope. But seriously why have the Redskins orginization ignored the need at Dline geez the only good one we got is C griff and hes injured we have to address this need.

SkinsfaninNJ · Post by **SkinsfaninNJ** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:21 pm

HEROHAMO wrote:I dont know how times Ive sat back and watch the opposing Qb sit back on a lawn chair in that pocket. I cant be the only one whos noticed this. We have bums in at all four dlinemen positions. Gosh man and can we please hold on to the ball ahhhhhh mann. hewwww well Know we have to win out to get a good grip on a playoff spot I hope. But seriously why have the Redskins orginization ignored the need at Dline geez the only good one we got is C griff and hes injured we have to address this need.

I totally agree with you. See my post in the fairweather fans thread. It is sickening to watch opposing qb's sit it the pocket and be able to survey the field for an eternity. DE should definitely be our top priority in the offseason.

OhioSkinsFan · Post by **OhioSkinsFan** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:37 pm

Anybody know whos going to be a free agent this year at the position. Rather than everyone agree that we have no pass rush lets see whos going to be out there and who will be best for us.

SkinsfaninNJ · Post by **SkinsfaninNJ** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:42 pm

OhioSkinsFan wrote:Anybody know whos going to be a free agent this year at the position. Rather than everyone agree that we have no pass rush lets see whos going to be out there and who will be best for us.

How about John Abraham? He is available.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5050462

kkryan · Post by **kkryan** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:44 pm

We miss NOBLE a lot.

OhioSkinsFan · Post by **OhioSkinsFan** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:44 pm

He would definitly give us that extra push. Hope we have salary cap room.

We are going to have to go to free agency because we traded our 1st rd pick for Campbell right?

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:56 pm

HEROHAMO wrote:I dont know how times Ive sat back and watch the opposing Qb sit back on a lawn chair in that pocket. I cant be the only one whos noticed this. We have bums in at all four dlinemen positions. Gosh man and can we please hold on to the ball ahhhhhh mann. hewwww well Know we have to win out to get a good grip on a playoff spot I hope. But seriously why have the Redskins orginization ignored the need at Dline geez the only good one we got is C griff and hes injured we have to address this need.

I don't think that our D-linemen are bums! The are very good run stuffers, but you need a pass rusher or two on the D-line and we don't have any. We deffinately need a pass rushing DE or DT. You can get a tweener type in the 2nd round and rotate him in. Or may we could convince the opposing offense to use the zero blocking sceem that we employed against Burgess on Sunday. I'm sure even R. Wynn could get to a QB if no one blocked him.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:02 pm

Our dlinemen definately are not bums, at least the tackles aren't. We're great at run stopping and we just need 2 solid de fensive ends.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:27 pm

Check My SIG LINE....sign Dwight Freeney...heck sign him and Abraham...okay...im being ridiculous, but one or the other at least.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:31 pm

The Hogster wrote:Check My SIG LINE....sign Dwight Freeney...heck sign him and Abraham...okay...im being ridiculous, but one or the other at least.

OMG is he a F/A?!?!?!

Seriously though.....Im against the huge splashes but I'd like to have him.

SkinzCanes · Post by **SkinzCanes** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:52 pm

Freeney isn't a free agent until after the 2006 season.

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:53 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Our dlinemen definately are not bums, at least the tackles aren't. We're great at run stopping and we just need 2 solid de fensive ends.

I agree with you on that they do stuff the run pretty well. Good point but maybe we should blitz Arrington alot more because hes not that good in coverage. Hes mainly a Qb hunter let him do what he is made for.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:59 pm

HEROHAMO wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Our dlinemen definately are not bums, at least the tackles aren't. We're great at run stopping and we just need 2 solid de fensive ends.
I agree with you on that they do stuff the run pretty well. Good point but maybe we should blitz Arrington alot more because hes not that good in coverage. Hes mainly a Qb hunter let him do what he is made for.

Blitzing does nothing. I dont think a lot of people have noticed that. None of our blitzers can break a block and none of our linemen command a double team. Blitzing is pointless for us.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:02 am

Robert Mathis (who plays opposite Freeney) is a UFA in 2006
So is John Abraham.

I think Freeney is a RFA next season, but Colts can't sign everybody. Reggie Wayne, Edge, Mathis...somethings gotta give.

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:04 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Our dlinemen definately are not bums, at least the tackles aren't. We're great at run stopping and we just need 2 solid de fensive ends.
I agree with you on that they do stuff the run pretty well. Good point but maybe we should blitz Arrington alot more because hes not that good in coverage. Hes mainly a Qb hunter let him do what he is made for.

Blitzing does nothing. I dont think a lot of people have noticed that. None of our blitzers can break a block and none of our linemen command a double team. Blitzing is pointless for us.

It can make plenty of difference if it designed right just count Arrington as an extra lineman but just happens to be on the olb spot Ive seen it work and I know it can work. We arent generating any pressure with the front four so we have to create it somehow. What else can we do right now. We can man up everyone else and send in arrington 70 percent of the time I know it could work and Im hoping He blitzes more often.

patjam77 · Post by **patjam77** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:08 am

The Hogster wrote:Robert Mathis (who plays opposite Freeney) is a UFA in 2006
So is John Abraham.

I think Freeney is a RFA next season, but Colts can't sign everybody. Reggie Wayne, Edge, Mathis...somethings gotta give.

Stud DE's don't grow on trees... they'll let wayne walk before freeney walks...

SkinzCanes · Post by **SkinzCanes** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:10 am

I don't understand why we take Lavar out on most third downs. It seems to me that it would make sense to line him up as a DE and let him rush the qb. He recorded 11 sacks that way in 2002.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:11 am

Kalimba Edwards is a UFA this year too.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:13 am

HEROHAMO wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Our dlinemen definately are not bums, at least the tackles aren't. We're great at run stopping and we just need 2 solid de fensive ends.
I agree with you on that they do stuff the run pretty well. Good point but maybe we should blitz Arrington alot more because hes not that good in coverage. Hes mainly a Qb hunter let him do what he is made for.

Blitzing does nothing. I dont think a lot of people have noticed that. None of our blitzers can break a block and none of our linemen command a double team. Blitzing is pointless for us.
It can make plenty of difference if it designed right just count Arrington as an extra lineman but just happens to be on the olb spot Ive seen it work and I know it can work. We arent generating any pressure with the front four so we have to create it somehow. What else can we do right now. We can man up everyone else and send in arrington 70 percent of the time I know it could work and Im hoping He blitzes more often.

Not saying you're wrong but I have faith that Gregg has exhausted his options and he's tried everything. When we blitz 7 people and get no pressure...I dont know wut to say. We should get pressure by sheer # but its takes too long.

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:17 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Our dlinemen definately are not bums, at least the tackles aren't. We're great at run stopping and we just need 2 solid de fensive ends.
I agree with you on that they do stuff the run pretty well. Good point but maybe we should blitz Arrington alot more because hes not that good in coverage. Hes mainly a Qb hunter let him do what he is made for.

Blitzing does nothing. I dont think a lot of people have noticed that. None of our blitzers can break a block and none of our linemen command a double team. Blitzing is pointless for us.
It can make plenty of difference if it designed right just count Arrington as an extra lineman but just happens to be on the olb spot Ive seen it work and I know it can work. We arent generating any pressure with the front four so we have to create it somehow. What else can we do right now. We can man up everyone else and send in arrington 70 percent of the time I know it could work and Im hoping He blitzes more often.

Not saying you're wrong but I have faith that Gregg has exhausted his options and he's tried everything. When we blitz 7 people and get no pressure...I dont know wut to say. We should get pressure by sheer # but its takes too long.

CLL i know we've had our disagreements but i'm totally with you on this one. every time i saw us rush 3 and drop 8 on 3rd and long i cheered. every time i saw the blitz i freaked, and rightfully so since we continue to give up big plays on failed blitzes. and none of that is even offset because we just about never MAKE any big plays on blitzes (sacks, forced fumbled, forcing bad throws for INTs, etc).

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:36 am

OhioSkinsFan wrote:Anybody know whos going to be a free agent this year at the position. Rather than everyone agree that we have no pass rush lets see whos going to be out there and who will be best for us.

The following player will be RFA at the end of the year...

DE... Kenny King.........Arizona
DE... Jarret Johnson.....Baltimore
DE... Cory Redding.......Detroit
DE... Kenny Peterson.....Green Bay
DE... Robert Mathis......Indianapolis
DE... Jimmy Wilkerson....Kansas City
DE... Jacques Cesaire....San Diego
DE... Brandon Green......St. Louis
DT... Langston Moore.....Arizona
DT... Aubrayo Franklin...Baltimore
DT... Kindal Moorehead...Carolina
DT... Ethan Kelley.......Cleveland
DT... Demtrin Veal.......Denver
DT... Kenderick Allen....New York Giants

The following player contacts expire with the end of the 2005 season...

DE... Ross Kolodziej.....Arizona
DE... Antonio Cochran....Arizona
DE... R-Kal Truluck......Arizona
DE... Antwan Lake........Atlanta
DE... Anthony Weaver.....Baltimore
DE... Ryan Denney........Buffalo
DE... Kemp Rasmussen.....Carolina
DE... Carl Powell........Cincinnati
DE... Orpheus Roye.......Cleveland
DE... Marco Coleman......Denver
DE... Jared DeVries......Detroit
DE... Kalimba Edwards....Detroit
DE... Aaron Kampman......Green Bay
DE... Raheem Brock.......Indianapolis
DE... Marcellus Wiley....Jacksonville
DE... Carlos Hall........Kansas City
DE... Lance Johnstone....Minnesota
DE... Willie Whitehead...New Orleans
DE... Darren Howard......New Orleans
DE... John Abraham.......New York Jets
DE... N.D. Kalu ..........Philadelphia
DE... Juqua Thomas.......Philadelphia
DE... Kimo von Oelhoffen.Pittsburgh
DE... DeQuincy Scott.....San Diego
DE... Travis Hall........San Francisco
DE... Rodney Bailey......Seattle
DE... Joe Tafoya.........Seattle
DE... Tyoka Jackson......St. Louis
DE... Kyle Vanden Bosch..Tennessee
DT... Russell Davis......Arizona
DT... Ma'ake Kemoeatu....Baltimore
DT... Justin Bannan......Buffalo
DT... Ron Edwards........Buffalo
DT... Monsanto Pope......Denver
DT... Grady Jackson......Green Bay
DT... Larry Tripplett....Indianapolis
DT... Rob Meier.........Jacksonville
DT... Lional Dalton......Kansas City
DT... Kendrick Clancy....New York Giants
DT... James Reed.........New York Jets
DT... Terdell Sands......Oakland
DT... Edward Jasper......Oakland
DT... Kenny Smith........Oakland
DT... Rocky Bernard......Seattle
DT... Ryan Pickett.......St. Louis
DT... Damione Lewis......St. Louis
DT... Chris Hovan........Tampa Bay
DT... Willie Blade.......That team in Texas :wink:

Team with available Cap space in 2005 will use that space to re-sign some of these players before the season ends. This list doesn't include any player that may be released at the end of the year for cap purposes

SKINZ_DOMIN8 · Post by **SKINZ_DOMIN8** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:04 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Our dlinemen definately are not bums, at least the tackles aren't. We're great at run stopping and we just need 2 solid de fensive ends.

You're right--that would be insulting to bums worldwide.

Our defensive line couldn't rush downhill and sack a bag of potatos.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:10 am

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Our dlinemen definately are not bums, at least the tackles aren't. We're great at run stopping and we just need 2 solid de fensive ends.

You're right--that would be insulting to bums worldwide.

Our defensive line couldn't rush downhill and sack a bag of potatos.

A wise man once said, "It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and dispell any doubt."

Pass rushing is only half of what a D-lineman does!

UK Skins Fan · Post by **UK Skins Fan** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:23 am

skinsfan#33 wrote:
SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Our dlinemen definately are not bums, at least the tackles aren't. We're great at run stopping and we just need 2 solid de fensive ends.

You're right--that would be insulting to bums worldwide.

Our defensive line couldn't rush downhill and sack a bag of potatos.

A wise man once said, "It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and dispell any doubt."

Pass rushing is only half of what a D-lineman does!

But that doesn't make him wrong. Our linemen really are hopeless pass-rushers. Whatever the scheme is, surely they are supposed to be going after the QB on 3rd and long? Assuming that they aren't still minding their gaps in long yardage situations (and remember I don't get to actually see any of the games to know what they're doing), then they must just be crud pass rushers.

A fit Griffin will make a difference here, but we badly need more linemen who can beat their man and get in the QB's face. Crikey, I'd be happy with just one, but it must be possible to find a couple out there somewhere.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:45 am

We are missing Brandon Noble. He and Corny were good at giving us push up the middle. With Noble out all season, Big Joe is in and playing good against the run, but he doesn't get that same push, and now with Corny out Boschetti (who is a better pass rusher than Big Joe) isn't good enough to collapse the pocket by himself.

With plenty of room to step up, our outside rushers have no chance whatsoever. Our only sack from the riaders game (at least the only one I remember) came with Chris Clemons blitzing up the middle and cathing Collins as he stepped up into the pocket to avoid the outside rush.

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