TURNOVER MARGIN!

gay4pacman · Post by **gay4pacman** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:44 pm

Is anybody else worried about our turnover margin?? We have been awful in that category and it seems to be the difference in our close losses.

We can beat teams like SF with a bad TM but we need to clan that up before it gets out of hand.

HTTR

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:47 pm

Anybody who is not worried about the turnover margin needs to take off the rose-colored glasses. I'm sure there's been exceptions to the rule, but generally speaking...you don't get far when you turn the ball over three times and don't get any back.

SkinsLaVar · Post by **SkinsLaVar** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:49 pm

go to nfl.com check out who's leading in passing and recieving yards

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:51 pm

Our defense is taking steps backward. I find it increasingly embarrassing that Holdman is the best we have at OLB...we need to suck up our pride on defense shore up the big plays and force turnovers before it continues.

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:51 pm

Turnovers are killing us.

I'm sure this is eating Gibbs up.

Defense needs to suck it up a little better. They've been off the last couple games.

Hopefully. we can play just a bit better and I think we'll win these type games!!

Hail!!

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:11 pm

What can the team do to improve the turnover ratio?

Tell Brunell not to fumble?

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:16 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:What can the team do to improve the turnover ratio?

Tell Brunell not to fumble?

Maybe tell Brunell to carry/tuck ball better when he scrambles. :roll:

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:22 pm

we suck.

blchizzleke · Post by **blchizzleke** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:34 pm

HOSS wrote:

Defense needs to suck it up a little better. They've been off the last couple games.

Hail!!

They have just given up a couple big plays. But, the real reason is because of injuries. Once everyone is back we will be back to normal on defense. Good thing we play the 49ers next that will give us a break.

SkinzCanes · Post by **SkinzCanes** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:54 pm

They have just given up a couple big plays. But, the real reason is because of injuries. Once everyone is back we will be back to normal on defense. Good thing we play the 49ers next that will give us a break.

I don't really see how you can blame injuries. The only player of significance that didn't play today on defense was Springs.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:16 pm

SkinzCanes wrote:
They have just given up a couple big plays. But, the real reason is because of injuries. Once everyone is back we will be back to normal on defense. Good thing we play the 49ers next that will give us a break.

I don't really see how you can blame injuries. The only player of significance that didn't play today on defense was Springs.

Harris and Taylor are in and out of the lineup
Griffin is hurt... Washington got dinged today

I'm not making excuses and I'm not crying about injuries.
Injuries are apart of the game.
Hall is injuried that means Novac takes up a roster spot.
If a DB goes down there are only so many that can replace him when you start shorthanded

Redskins234 · Post by **Redskins234** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:02 pm

Did anyone see the report on butterfingeritis on espn during the nfl sunday countdown? I think Mark has it.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:11 pm

Mark's fumbles hurt, but the biggie was Rock Cartwright's fumble. That was a 10 point swing. We are in FG range and driving possibly for a TD, and he gives them 7 points on that fumble.

That play changed the game. 21 points should be enough to win that game. Take away the big screen to Holmes and the 80yd fumble return and we are in the type of game we want...a 21-14 victory.

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:21 pm

The Hogster wrote: Take away the big screen to Holmes and the 80yd fumble return and we are in the type of game we want...a 21-14 victory.

Well yeah, but if you take away all the negatives from a game, the team would be undefeated.

The thing is those plays did happen, and now we need to see how the team responds from a 2 game losing streak.

I believe Offensive Turnovers can be prevented. And with Sean Taylor, Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs, Griffin, Rogers... Turnovers will come, don't worry.

SkinsLaVar · Post by **SkinsLaVar** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:18 pm

air_hog wrote:
The Hogster wrote: Take away the big screen to Holmes and the 80yd fumble return and we are in the type of game we want...a 21-14 victory.

Well yeah, but if you take away all the negatives from a game, the team would be undefeated.

The thing is those plays did happen, and now we need to see how the team responds from a 2 game losing streak.

I believe Offensive Turnovers can be prevented. And with Sean Taylor, Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs, Griffin, Rogers... Turnovers will come, don't worry.

3 words

PUT LAVAR IN

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:37 pm

air_hog wrote:
The Hogster wrote: Take away the big screen to Holmes and the 80yd fumble return and we are in the type of game we want...a 21-14 victory.

Well yeah, but if you take away all the negatives from a game, the team would be undefeated.

The thing is those plays did happen, and now we need to see how the team responds from a 2 game losing streak.

I believe Offensive Turnovers can be prevented. And with Sean Taylor, Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs, Griffin, Rogers... Turnovers will come, don't worry.

Really? Well Duh...that is what people call minimizing mistakes. The name of the thread is Turnover Margin...turnover as in mistake...the only way to correct the turnover margin is to minimize mistakes.

Those two mistakes were not the only negative plays of the game. We had plenty of penalties and 2 other turnovers, but those two plays were the critical points of the game, and we can't give those plays up to win our type of game.

ejay183 · Post by **ejay183** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:47 pm

SkinsLaVar wrote:
air_hog wrote:
The Hogster wrote: Take away the big screen to Holmes and the 80yd fumble return and we are in the type of game we want...a 21-14 victory.

Well yeah, but if you take away all the negatives from a game, the team would be undefeated.

The thing is those plays did happen, and now we need to see how the team responds from a 2 game losing streak.

I believe Offensive Turnovers can be prevented. And with Sean Taylor, Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs, Griffin, Rogers... Turnovers will come, don't worry.

3 words

PUT LAVAR IN

I think he should be given a chance, since we arent getting any more turnovers since Week One. LaVar is proven to make turnovers, so lets try it out.

gay4pacman · Post by **gay4pacman** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:58 pm

Im interested to see how well...or badly he would play if given a whole game to play.

Imnt so sure that he would be great by any means but its worth a shot at this point with our turnover ratio soo poor.

HailSkins94 · Post by **HailSkins94** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:44 pm

I swear I don't think I have ever seen any team in any sport kills themselves as much as the skins. It has been like this for years!!! The only way we ever lose games is because we beat ourselves and give the game away. When was the last time we were actually blown out in a game??? Turnovers kill you, and right now we don't value the football. Until that changes we arent going to make the playoffs with all of these stupid mistakes. There is no doubt in my mind that we can play with anyone in this league and beat them as long as we don't beat ourselves.

HailSkins94 · Post by **HailSkins94** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:20 pm

die cowboys die wrote:we suck.

Are you Jim Mora?? LOL

gay4pacman · Post by **gay4pacman** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:35 pm

We can play with any team even with the turnovers.....Without the turnovers we blow some teams out!

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:25 am

HailSkins94 wrote:
die cowboys die wrote:we suck.

Are you Jim Mora?? LOL

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:27 am

i will say this, since it is related to the whole turnover margin thing:

so far, it seems like the only team in the NFL that can beat the Redskins is... the Redskins.

the problem is, they are really good at it!

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:34 am

die cowboys die wrote:i will say this, since it is related to the whole turnover margin thing:

so far, it seems like the only team in the NFL that can beat the Redskins is... the Redskins.

the problem is, they are really good at it!

I agree.

SkinsLaVar · Post by **SkinsLaVar** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:27 am

die cowboys die wrote:i will say this, since it is related to the whole turnover margin thing:

so far, it seems like the only team in the NFL that can beat the Redskins is... the Redskins.

the problem is, they are really good at it!

Word.