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Here are some of my observations of today's game from the nosebleed section:
1. Our defense really stepped it up when they had to. They are still not getting enough pressure on the QB from their reqular front 4; however, when they blitzed, they were very effective. Seems to me that the only way this team can mount a serious pass rush is to blitz.
2. I have lost faith in Antonio Brown. He sucks as a WR (can't catch) and he fumbles a kick-off return? Didn't he fumble the punt return last year in the Cowboys game? If this guy made the team as a "return specialist", he better shape up....or we need to send him packing.
3. How in the world could the refs miss that call when the Bears player clotheslined Ramsey! It was a clear penalty, easily viewable from where I was sitting!!! How in the hell could the refs miss that?!?!?! Instead of having a first down deep deep in Bears territory, the Bears allofthesudden had the ball. What a crock! (I was crying how this could be another game that gets away because of blown calls by the refs. Luckily, it didn't "get away".)
4. Once again, the Redskins offense didn't look very good, except for admirable efforts by Portis and Moss. We die in the Red Zone....just like last year. I wish this team would learn how to finish drives and pick up the TD rather than settling for a field goal!
5. At the end of the game, when the Skins had a "3rd and 5", I really wanted Gibbs to pass the ball. If they got a complete pass, the game was over. If they didn't get the first down with a run, we had to punt. Gibbs ran, we punted (into the endzone) and really netted only about 15 yards from the play. Next time, I hope Gibbs doesn't play "not to lose" but instead "plays to win" and goes for the pass. (Just my two cents there.)
6. Look for a QB controversy next week. Ramsey was overthrowing the ball early and looked nervous. I still think he's the better QB of the two; however, Brunell is starting to look quite Dilferesque to me and....if he doesn't make the same mistakes he made last year, I wouldn't be too surprised if Gibbs started him over Ramsey against the Cowboys.
7. Speaking of the Cowboys, our defense should do better against them than the Charges; however, if our offense doesn't improve in the Red Zone next week, we'll be starting 1-1 this year.
Okay, 'nuff from me right now.
1. Our defense really stepped it up when they had to. They are still not getting enough pressure on the QB from their reqular front 4; however, when they blitzed, they were very effective. Seems to me that the only way this team can mount a serious pass rush is to blitz.
2. I have lost faith in Antonio Brown. He sucks as a WR (can't catch) and he fumbles a kick-off return? Didn't he fumble the punt return last year in the Cowboys game? If this guy made the team as a "return specialist", he better shape up....or we need to send him packing.
3. How in the world could the refs miss that call when the Bears player clotheslined Ramsey! It was a clear penalty, easily viewable from where I was sitting!!! How in the hell could the refs miss that?!?!?! Instead of having a first down deep deep in Bears territory, the Bears allofthesudden had the ball. What a crock! (I was crying how this could be another game that gets away because of blown calls by the refs. Luckily, it didn't "get away".)
4. Once again, the Redskins offense didn't look very good, except for admirable efforts by Portis and Moss. We die in the Red Zone....just like last year. I wish this team would learn how to finish drives and pick up the TD rather than settling for a field goal!
5. At the end of the game, when the Skins had a "3rd and 5", I really wanted Gibbs to pass the ball. If they got a complete pass, the game was over. If they didn't get the first down with a run, we had to punt. Gibbs ran, we punted (into the endzone) and really netted only about 15 yards from the play. Next time, I hope Gibbs doesn't play "not to lose" but instead "plays to win" and goes for the pass. (Just my two cents there.)
6. Look for a QB controversy next week. Ramsey was overthrowing the ball early and looked nervous. I still think he's the better QB of the two; however, Brunell is starting to look quite Dilferesque to me and....if he doesn't make the same mistakes he made last year, I wouldn't be too surprised if Gibbs started him over Ramsey against the Cowboys.
7. Speaking of the Cowboys, our defense should do better against them than the Charges; however, if our offense doesn't improve in the Red Zone next week, we'll be starting 1-1 this year.
Okay, 'nuff from me right now.
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As far as Brown goes...
How in the hell do you fumble a kickoff? It's placed on a silver platter for you... and if you can't make the catch... you're allowed to just wave!!!
*scratches head*
How in the hell do you fumble a kickoff? It's placed on a silver platter for you... and if you can't make the catch... you're allowed to just wave!!!
*scratches head*
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Re: From the Cheap Seats
Justice Hog wrote:Here are some of my observations of today's game from the nosebleed section:
2. I have lost faith in Antonio Brown. He sucks as a WR (can't catch) and he fumbles a kick-off return? Didn't he fumble the punt return last year in the Cowboys game? If this guy made the team as a "return specialist", he better shape up....or we need to send him packing.
...5. At the end of the game, when the Skins had a "3rd and 5", I really wanted Gibbs to pass the ball. If they got a complete pass, the game was over. If they didn't get the first down with a run, we had to punt. Gibbs ran, we punted (into the endzone) and really netted only about 15 yards from the play. Next time, I hope Gibbs doesn't play "not to lose" but instead "plays to win" and goes for the pass. (Just my two cents there.)
RE: #2: unfortunately about brown, i have to agree. i was hoping he could pull it together and be a surprise start, but he has done absolutely NOTHING in preseason and here in the 1st game. he IS in fact the guy that fumbled the punt and gave the game away to dallas last year. he can still redeem himself, but will gibbs give him the chance? all i know is i'd rather have someone just fair catch it and not get any yards on kick returns, than always worry whether they will fumble it.
RE: #5: yes!! i was pissed! this is the kind of crap gibbs did all last year and i was praying he would get over it. isn't the best way to run down the clock to get 1st downs and keep the drive moving??? you just HAVE to pass there. we won't get away with this most of the time, so it'd better change.
RE: TDs: i loved having ST in there, shows they are trying to be creative and find ways to get it in the endzone. but geez, yeah i am sick of FGs! we need TDs!
RE: blitzes: i felt most of the time, our blitzers seemed to run right into blockers instead of finding the gaps between them. we are going to need to get a HECK of a lot more pressure on bledsoe next week to beat dallas.
How in the hell do you fumble a kickoff? It's placed on a silver platter for you... and if you can't make the catch... you're allowed to just wave!!!
I think he fumbled on the runback, although I only heard the radio replay.
But...I'm not sure he needs to play. Rich Parson ought to come off the practice squad (yes, I remember that Parson tried to run with a fumble he had recovered, and lost it...but that was pre-season.)
Here is what I noticed:
1. Brunell still sucks. He had the running game going with him in the second half (unlike Ramsey who had no run support) and we still only put up 3 more points. If Portis wasn't there to save Brunells butt, we might have lost.
2. Playcalling, what's up with it? Throughout the game I was seriously questioning the offensive play calls.
1: Why run Portis up the middle? What am I missing here, all I see are one and two yard losses. If we are going to run it up the gut, use Betts, Nemo, or Rock. The first half when Portis would line up like 7 yards deep in Singleback formation, we averaged about -1 yards per rush. But then, in the second half when we had some fullbacks/h-backs back there and we let Portis find his own hole, BAM! 41 yard run. Hopefully the coaches see the obvious and use a Clinton Portis running game, not a John Riggins.
2: WR patterns. Everytime we ran those unbelievably stupid 1 and out patterns, we got 1 yard maybe (except Patten had a nice run but that was it). But then we had our WR actually run routes, BAM! 40 yard gains. Hopefully the coaches will see this as well and evolve the crappy passing game from last year.
3: Sean Taylor at WR: All I can say is, AWESOME!!!! I have no idea why Brunell threw it too
ey when he was 2 yards short (meaning I hate Brunell) when he had ST open running a slant to the corner. Give it to ST, he's a Playmaker.
3. Defense: They were awesome! Except the pass defense. By the end of the game they were getting completioins with ease (plus Mushin dropped a few easy ones). However our run defense was excellent. But remember, its only the Bears so we shouldn't get carried away.
4. Fans: They get 2 thumbs down today. Now I know everyone here from THN was screaming like no other mother and rooting for our team, but I'm talking about the other "fans". I mean, booing Ramsey after 1 incompletion
give me a break.
But overall we played pretty sketchy. I mean, we won by two points over the Bears, and they suck.
Hopefully the play calling can improve because that was my main concern during the game, but none the less we got the W and that's all that matters.
1. Brunell still sucks. He had the running game going with him in the second half (unlike Ramsey who had no run support) and we still only put up 3 more points. If Portis wasn't there to save Brunells butt, we might have lost.
2. Playcalling, what's up with it? Throughout the game I was seriously questioning the offensive play calls.
1: Why run Portis up the middle? What am I missing here, all I see are one and two yard losses. If we are going to run it up the gut, use Betts, Nemo, or Rock. The first half when Portis would line up like 7 yards deep in Singleback formation, we averaged about -1 yards per rush. But then, in the second half when we had some fullbacks/h-backs back there and we let Portis find his own hole, BAM! 41 yard run. Hopefully the coaches see the obvious and use a Clinton Portis running game, not a John Riggins.
2: WR patterns. Everytime we ran those unbelievably stupid 1 and out patterns, we got 1 yard maybe (except Patten had a nice run but that was it). But then we had our WR actually run routes, BAM! 40 yard gains. Hopefully the coaches will see this as well and evolve the crappy passing game from last year.
3: Sean Taylor at WR: All I can say is, AWESOME!!!! I have no idea why Brunell threw it too

3. Defense: They were awesome! Except the pass defense. By the end of the game they were getting completioins with ease (plus Mushin dropped a few easy ones). However our run defense was excellent. But remember, its only the Bears so we shouldn't get carried away.
4. Fans: They get 2 thumbs down today. Now I know everyone here from THN was screaming like no other mother and rooting for our team, but I'm talking about the other "fans". I mean, booing Ramsey after 1 incompletion

But overall we played pretty sketchy. I mean, we won by two points over the Bears, and they suck.
Hopefully the play calling can improve because that was my main concern during the game, but none the less we got the W and that's all that matters.
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air_hog wrote:4. Fans: They get 2 thumbs down today. Now I know everyone here from THN was screaming like no other mother and rooting for our team, but I'm talking about the other "fans". I mean, booing Ramsey after 1 incompletiongive me a break.
Booing Ramsey was not cool but I disagree with the overall statement about the fans. I'd give them 1 thumb up actually. The fans really helped the defense out today...especially when we were all yelling at the top of our lungs which (I'm sure) helped cause the Bears to get 3 false start penalties in a row.
The boo-birds will come and go, but the fans....as a hole...did their part today, my friend.
I also agree (and forgot to mention) how I was pissed that they were running Portis up the middle so much early on. I mean...all I heard through the offseason was how this team learned to gameplan using Portis' skills and how they will call plays better suited for Portis' running style. Well, that certainly didn't show early on....and I hope the Skins change that sooner rather than later.
Oh! And I also forgot those damn 1-yard out WR plays (a la Coles from last year). Memo to the Redskins offensive gurus: Please only use that play on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1....because that's all you're gonna get for that play!
Okay, I'm done.
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Don't forget Ade Jimoh. He got torched on that one pass, when he should have intercepted it. Orton threw a floater up in the air and Jimoh never once looked back and allowed the WR to come back and catch it for a big gain. I'm tellin ya, Jimoh must have pics of Snyder and a Cheerleader doing the dirt. That guy should not be on this team.
Sit back and watch the Redskins.
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I didn't realize it was Jimoh and wondered who the heck the doofus was. Thanks for telling me. I should have known. It seems to me he did make a nice play though-- I think he jarred the ball loose from their top WR with a really good hit. It was actually a fumble, but the zebra, seeing we made the recovery, called it an incompletion.
Pass on third and 5 with less than 2 min. to play? Remember this was a 9-7 game with our D controlling the Bears, not a 28-27 game against the Colts. Gibbs did the right thing by running?punting and putting it on the D.
I've said before...Antonio Brown is a liability for this team, given the chance he will lose a game for us this year..it almost happened yesterday!
I've said before...Antonio Brown is a liability for this team, given the chance he will lose a game for us this year..it almost happened yesterday!
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You're right DE, he did the same against Dallas last year and does it again this year. IF he didn't fumble that ball, we could easily have had a shutout.
As for running up the middle on 3rd and 5, yes, the right thing to do. It was late, our defense was clicking on all cylinders, and they were either out of timeouts or only had one left. PLUS, they had a rookie QB who isn't too experienced at the two minute/no timeout drill. All in all it was a good move. Gibbs wasn't thinking at that time that he wanted to wint by X amount of points, he just wanted to win. Good Call!
As for running up the middle on 3rd and 5, yes, the right thing to do. It was late, our defense was clicking on all cylinders, and they were either out of timeouts or only had one left. PLUS, they had a rookie QB who isn't too experienced at the two minute/no timeout drill. All in all it was a good move. Gibbs wasn't thinking at that time that he wanted to wint by X amount of points, he just wanted to win. Good Call!
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I agree... pass on 3rd down when you're trying to eat clock or make the Bears use their final time out? I'd have been livid if we'd passed the ball there. So we didn't get the first down... the Bears had to use their last timeout. Try a pass and fail there, and you give them the ball back with a timeout to work with.
Glad the coach has more respect and regard for the defense than some of the fans apparently do. Gibbs made the smart move running the ball whether they succesfully got the first down or not. Eat the clock... and if you can't move the chains... let the D go back in and do what they did all day -- stuff the Bears.
And calling this the Cheap Seats? Better hope Wingman doesn't see it
...or he might crush you.
I also think it's ironic that fans are 'complaining' about the plays called for Portis and the running 'style'. Even Portis himself said after the game that pounding the ball up the middle all day IS what opened up the outside lane for the 41-yard run and for the late game running success.
They wore them down... this is what a Joe Gibbs offense does... deal with it, learn it, believe in it or don't believe in it... but DON'T wander around aimlessly second-guessing the scemantics of it. The coaching staff never said they were changing all of the plays to suit Clinton's running style... the media did. All Gibbs and the staff have said (and said repeatedly) was that they have put in a few more zone blocking runs to give CP a better mix. This offense is still going to run, Chip, Gut and Counter plays as a staple of the running attack.
Don't run WR screens? How are you going to back off the CBs and keep them from checking the receiver at the line of scrimmage? When you have speedsters, you HAVE TO call plays designed to bring the CBs up to the line to give the WRs a better chance to use their speed and blow by them right at the line. Not to mention that we signed Moss for his ability to make yards AFTER the catch, it would seem prudent to occasionally just put the ball in his hands quickly in a one-one-one situation and see if he can make something happen.
I often wonder if some of you have ever stepped on to a football field to actually play football.
Winning a football game isn't about playing 'perfect' football. Some of you seem to think that if the Redskins can't play error free then they don't have any chance of doing anything this year. IMO, this is total Hog Wash. Most teams don't play perfect football... but the good teams find a way to play better football. The Redskins definitely need to play better football if they want to make it to the playoffs in 2005... BUT... if they can just play football better than their opponent each week... then they'll win their share of games.
.... like they did on Sunday against the Bears.

Glad the coach has more respect and regard for the defense than some of the fans apparently do. Gibbs made the smart move running the ball whether they succesfully got the first down or not. Eat the clock... and if you can't move the chains... let the D go back in and do what they did all day -- stuff the Bears.
And calling this the Cheap Seats? Better hope Wingman doesn't see it



I also think it's ironic that fans are 'complaining' about the plays called for Portis and the running 'style'. Even Portis himself said after the game that pounding the ball up the middle all day IS what opened up the outside lane for the 41-yard run and for the late game running success.
They wore them down... this is what a Joe Gibbs offense does... deal with it, learn it, believe in it or don't believe in it... but DON'T wander around aimlessly second-guessing the scemantics of it. The coaching staff never said they were changing all of the plays to suit Clinton's running style... the media did. All Gibbs and the staff have said (and said repeatedly) was that they have put in a few more zone blocking runs to give CP a better mix. This offense is still going to run, Chip, Gut and Counter plays as a staple of the running attack.
Don't run WR screens? How are you going to back off the CBs and keep them from checking the receiver at the line of scrimmage? When you have speedsters, you HAVE TO call plays designed to bring the CBs up to the line to give the WRs a better chance to use their speed and blow by them right at the line. Not to mention that we signed Moss for his ability to make yards AFTER the catch, it would seem prudent to occasionally just put the ball in his hands quickly in a one-one-one situation and see if he can make something happen.
I often wonder if some of you have ever stepped on to a football field to actually play football.
Winning a football game isn't about playing 'perfect' football. Some of you seem to think that if the Redskins can't play error free then they don't have any chance of doing anything this year. IMO, this is total Hog Wash. Most teams don't play perfect football... but the good teams find a way to play better football. The Redskins definitely need to play better football if they want to make it to the playoffs in 2005... BUT... if they can just play football better than their opponent each week... then they'll win their share of games.
.... like they did on Sunday against the Bears.

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BossHog wrote:I also think it's funny that fans are 'complaining' about the plays called for Portis and the running 'style'. Even Portis himself said after the game that pounding the ball up the middle all day IS what opened up the outside lane for the 41-yard run and for the late game running success.
They wore them down... this is what a Joe Gibbs offense does... deal with it, learn it, believe in it or don't believe in it... but DON'T wander around aimlessly second-guessing the scemantics of it. The coaching staff never said they were changing all of the plays to suit Clinton's running style... the media did. All Gibbs and the staff have said (and said repeatedly) was that they have put in a few more zone blocking runs to give CP a better mix. This offense is still going to run, Chip, Gut and Counter plays as a staple of the running attack.
I think they're wanting him to break it for 40 yards everytime... and he's just not going to do that....
he didn't put on an extra 20 pounds for nothing... he's going to have to go up the middle and get those little 3 to 4 yard runs... just so the defense stays honest and doesn't believe he's going to break it outside on every play...
again... it's only week one... the score might look close... but take away that silly fumble after the half... and we drove down and had 3 scores on a some what stingy defense... and we almost had another one until they ripped Patties head off...
I think the offense did a pretty decent job... and as long as they continue to progress.. things should only get better...
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The difference between last year and this year is like hte difference between night and day. How many of those 50 yarders to Moss type of plays did we have last year? NONE. This year we will show steady, progressive, and constant improvement from week to week. Last year we were just searching for an identity. This year, we have an identity, we're just going to tweak a few things to make it run on all cylinders. Improvement is guaranteed.
Did anyone catch the play where they used Sean Taylor as a WR? I'm sorry if it's already been posted, but I read they used Taylor in the Red Zone as a WR. I wonder what that was all about.
Did anyone catch the play where they used Sean Taylor as a WR? I'm sorry if it's already been posted, but I read they used Taylor in the Red Zone as a WR. I wonder what that was all about.
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JPFair wrote:Did anyone catch the play where they used Sean Taylor as a WR? I'm sorry if it's already been posted, but I read they used Taylor in the Red Zone as a WR. I wonder what that was all about.
I saw him go in twice, lined up wide to the left with



1. S Taylor as WR: Gibbs said, on post-game radio, that he likes Taylor in that spot. "He has great wing-span and he catches anything near him", or words to that effect. And Gibbs was chuckling as he said it. Hinted (almost promised) to use it more.
2. 3 & 5 run up the middle. As the play was run, I was hoping for another short, safe, 1st-down pass. The Bears had one timeout left, so a 1st down would have been the end of it. However, it's clear that Gibbs made the right call. It's safer to hand the ball to Betts, then punt (wish the new kid could drop the ball inside the 10, but...), and rely on the defense against a rookie QB with no timeouts and 1:30 to play.
2. 3 & 5 run up the middle. As the play was run, I was hoping for another short, safe, 1st-down pass. The Bears had one timeout left, so a 1st down would have been the end of it. However, it's clear that Gibbs made the right call. It's safer to hand the ball to Betts, then punt (wish the new kid could drop the ball inside the 10, but...), and rely on the defense against a rookie QB with no timeouts and 1:30 to play.
I would like to point out that the first interception was because we tried a pass on 3rd down. At the time I'm thinking this is decent field position, try a run and if we don't get it (1st down) then put them deep and let the defence get the ball back. We throw a stupid IMO interception! I agree with BH (and others) that this is not conservative to Joe this is how you best control the game and that is how Joe will coach.
I would like to also point out (to support BH's point) that most games are not won, they are lost by teams making mistakes or trying plays that are not "high percentage". Good teams take advantage of other teams mistakes.
We have some work to do but we have a coach (and a staff) that is among the best at doing that. We will see the effect of those adjustments shortly.
1 win for the good guys and that defence is very special.
Putting ST out there (I saw 2 plays) as a WR was HUGE! This guy has a great wing span - I have a feeling that is why we did not keep a "tall" receiver!!
I would like to also point out (to support BH's point) that most games are not won, they are lost by teams making mistakes or trying plays that are not "high percentage". Good teams take advantage of other teams mistakes.
We have some work to do but we have a coach (and a staff) that is among the best at doing that. We will see the effect of those adjustments shortly.
1 win for the good guys and that defence is very special.
Putting ST out there (I saw 2 plays) as a WR was HUGE! This guy has a great wing span - I have a feeling that is why we did not keep a "tall" receiver!!
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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BringThePain! wrote:he didn't put on an extra 20 pounds for nothing...
When Portis broke into the secondary on that long run I was so sure he was going to the house -- a la' Bucs game last year. Putting on those pounds was necessary for our running game but I couldn't help but think he would have gotten to Baltimore on that play without the extra weight.
A Brown will cost us if we keep playing him. Great speed, some potential but bricks for hands. I hope the 5th quarter reporters were correct when they predicted Betts/Moss will do returns now.
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BossHog wrote:And calling this the Cheap Seats? Better hope Wingman doesn't see it...or he might crush you.
Oops. My bad. Certainly no disrespect meant to Wingman. Perhaps next time I'll just call it "From the Nosebleeds".
As for the pass v. run on 3rd down, I'm not saying that Gibbs choice was the "wrong" call. I just said that I felt we should have gone for it via a pass. That's what my coaching style would be....which is why, I suspect, I'm not a head coach in the NFL.

When we were on the goal line and fans were chanting to go for it, I was calling for the field goal so I'm not totally clueless.....just most of the time.
And, I don't know about the rest of you . . . but I have absolutely no voice today.
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DEHog wrote:Pass on third and 5 with less than 2 min. to play? Remember this was a 9-7 game with our D controlling the Bears, not a 28-27 game against the Colts. Gibbs did the right thing by running?punting and putting it on the D.
I've said before...Antonio Brown is a liability for this team, given the chance he will lose a game for us this year..it almost happened yesterday!
Greetings from NYC: Both Greg Williams and myself agree with you about Antonio Brown!
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cvillehog wrote:Perhaps I am mistaken, but isn't Brown the only WR to get any decent yardage off that Wide Reciever hitch play so far? I think he got 5 or more yards on his go-'round.
You may be right cville, but the shame of it all is we may not see him use that incredible speed if he cannot convince Joe and co that he will not be a liability if he has the ball in his hands.
I think he's our fastest player but we cannot afford these mistakes. We are just not that good a team that we can turn the ball over and anyone who does that will not be here long.
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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cvillehog wrote:Perhaps I am mistaken, but isn't Brown the only WR to get any decent yardage off that Wide Reciever hitch play so far? I think he got 5 or more yards on his go-'round.
i held my breath on that play, because it looked like a backward pass.
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Rockin' the tables, rockin' the mikes, rockin' the young lay-dees.
Rockin' the tables, rockin' the mikes, rockin' the young lay-dees.