Ramsey vs. Former Redskin QBs

ArizonaHOG · Post by **ArizonaHOG** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:25 pm

First, I support Ramsey as our starter and hope he leads the skins to a winning season. However, the thought crossed my mind this past weekend while watching Gus Frerotte play for Miami and I wonder what others think.

Would you, if you could, trade Ramsey for any former Redskin QB who is still playing in the NFL and who? In other words, do you think any QBs we let get away would be a better option than Ramsey?

For discussion purposes, let's not consider salary cap nor the philosophy of various coaches we've had, just whether or not you think the one that got away is better than the one we got now.

Gibbs' Hog · Post by **Gibbs' Hog** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:34 pm

How about Gus Frerotte?

......................... ROTFALMAO

BernieSki · Post by **BernieSki** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:36 pm

Trent Green?

hkHog · Post by **hkHog** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:40 pm

Yeah, I would say Trent Green is definately the best ex-'Skin QB.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:46 pm

Heath Lauffenberg

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:49 pm

Does Brad Johnson have anything left?

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:50 pm

Easily Treen Green Good QB and a better person!!

SkinsChic · Post by **SkinsChic** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:57 pm

I love Trent Green....on and off the field... He waited a long time...got his chance and did well.

DieselFan · Post by **DieselFan** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:29 pm

Trent Green. Lock the thread...no need to continue. :-)

SKINZ_DOMIN8 · Post by **SKINZ_DOMIN8** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:27 pm

How Sorry is Patrick Ramsey??? Rich Gannon (former Redskin ) not Trent Green took a Raiders team to the Superbowl while the Chiefs choke and choke.

That says a lot to me right there.

HailSkins94 · Post by **HailSkins94** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:39 pm

Brad Johnson, Trent Green.

redskined always · Post by **redskined always** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:16 pm

You know that all the former QB,s your talking about did start their development in a Redskins camp but in my opinion those camps were so much stable.First thing Spurrier and Gibbs did was bring in QB's such as Mathews,Brunnel.Each camp was different.I hope with time to develop Ramsey is going to be a force to reckon with lets hope it's in a Redskins uniform, not a Brad Johnson wearing a Tampa uniform,or Trent Green wearing a Kansas City uniform,or a Stan Humphries wearing a Chargers uniform and yes Ferotte in Miami. Ya if you compare those guys to Ramsey in this stage of his career they all look better but really shouldn't they ?

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:16 pm

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:How Sorry is Patrick Ramsey??? Rich Gannon (former Redskin ) not Trent Green took a Raiders team to the Superbowl while the Chiefs choke and choke.

That says a lot to me right there.

The Chiefs weakness is on defense not offense imo.

I don't remeber Rich being a Skin so I won't include him but my list is as follows:

1. Trent
2. Gus

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:38 pm

I would take Mark Rypien (but only the Rypien from the 91 season)

Rich Gannon is the guy that I wish we would have kept though.

hkHog · Post by **hkHog** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:46 pm

Gannon has retired so he isn't really an option.

Shabba · Post by **Shabba** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:48 pm

Trent is doing well but is also getting up in years. Hopefully Pat can get it together before iot's too late.

blchizzleke · Post by **blchizzleke** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:27 pm

Brad Johnson was the only QB to get us to the playoffs since 1993 so what do we do replace him with Sage Rosenfels and Danny Wuerffel.

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:22 pm

I'm surprised nobody said Tony Banks! j/k

Ramsey still looks bad to me, hope he pulls his head out quick! I thought he should have been #1 a year ago - all through camp. Now, Brunell, who I'm surprised is even still with the team - is out-playing Ramsey... that's not saying much.

I like what I see in Campbell though! he won't start, but he's got great potential.

welch · Post by **welch** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:02 pm

I haven't looked at Trent Green's "sell-by date", but he would get my vote if he was 32 or younger.

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Rich Gannon played in the Petibon year. Rypien hurt his knee in the second or third game, and I wanted Cary Conklin to start. "Let's use the kid!" I remember Gannon as a QB with no arm.

So much for my QB-picking wisdom.

By the way, nice to see your name here, Scooter.

TAFKAS · Post by **TAFKAS** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:29 pm

Sage Rosenfels...But seriously, I always liked Trent Green and he could give another solid two years or so before Campbell is ready to step in

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:08 pm

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:How Sorry is Patrick Ramsey??? Rich Gannon (former Redskin ) not Trent Green took a Raiders team to the Superbowl while the Chiefs choke and choke.

That says a lot to me right there.

Get a clue, its not Trent Green's fault that he has no defense. The loss to the Colts was not Green's, you should win plenty of games scoring 31, it wasn't Trent Green's fault that the Colts scored on every possesion and never had to punt, and missing the playoffs was not the No.1 Offenses fault. You obviously know nothing about Football and I consider Ramsey a pretty good player for one reason. If you say he is bad, it must mean he is a pretty good player.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:36 pm

John Manfreda wrote:
SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:How Sorry is Patrick Ramsey??? Rich Gannon (former Redskin ) not Trent Green took a Raiders team to the Superbowl while the Chiefs choke and choke.

That says a lot to me right there.

Get a clue, its not Trent Green's fault that he has no defense. The loss to the Colts was not Green's, you should win plenty of games scoring 31, it wasn't Trent Green's fault that the Colts scored on every possesion and never had to punt, and missing the playoffs was not the No.1 Offenses fault. You obviously know nothing about Football and I consider Ramsey a pretty good player for one reason. If you say he is bad, it must mean he is a pretty good player.

Just to point out, our defense we so good that if we could have scored at least 21 points in all of our games we would have won 14 games. That goes to show how much a defense comes into play in regards to winning.

TAFKAS · Post by **TAFKAS** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:07 pm

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:How Sorry is Patrick Ramsey??? Rich Gannon (former Redskin ) not Trent Green took a Raiders team to the Superbowl while the Chiefs choke and choke.

That says a lot to me right there.

I don't quite get what you're trying to say here. It's almost like saying "how sorry is Daunte Culpeper???" Rich Gannon (former Viking) took a Raiders team to the Super Bowl that lost to former Viking Brad Johnson's Bucs team.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:38 pm

TAFKAS wrote:
SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:How Sorry is Patrick Ramsey??? Rich Gannon (former Redskin ) not Trent Green took a Raiders team to the Superbowl while the Chiefs choke and choke.

That says a lot to me right there.

I don't quite get what you're trying to say here. It's almost like saying "how sorry is Daunte Culpeper???" Rich Gannon (former Viking) took a Raiders team to the Super Bowl that lost to former Viking Brad Johnson's Bucs team.

If you figure him out let the rest of us in on it :lol:

TAFKAS · Post by **TAFKAS** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:48 pm

What do I look like? Norman Einstein? :wink: