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Arrington Is Eager, But Not Ready Yet
Injury, Contract Dispute Still Linger

By Nunyo Demasio
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 3, 2005; Page E01

The face of the Washington Redskins was grim and dripping with sweat as LaVar Arrington underwent agility drills early in yesterday's practice at Redskins Park. Working out with defensive lineman Brandon Noble, who is also injured, Arrington zigzagged for a few yards, then jogged the length of a field near the main one where the rest of the team practiced.

The scenario was symbolic for the star linebacker whose contract dispute against the Redskins has stretched to 17 months, and essentially kept Arrington separated from the front office. Both sides are attempting a resolution that would be concluded with a financial settlement.

Last season was just as strange as the offseason for Arrington. A bone bruise caused him to miss 12 games and the defense, with Lemar Marshall emerging from obscurity to fill in for Arrington, ranked third overall in the NFL.

"When LaVar Arrington gets back on the field, he's going to be an animal," cornerback Shawn Springs said. "He's going to go all out. He doesn't have anything to prove because obviously we all know he's a great player. But he's ready to get back on the field and be a great player."

Bubba Tyer, the Redskins' director of sports medicine, said yesterday that Arrington was "progressing extremely well," without providing a time frame.

Arrington has declined to speak to the media since April, when he criticized the franchise for issues dealing with his injury and grievance, then admonished the media for how his remarks were construed. (Coach Joe Gibbs had denied Arrington's contentions, and said that Arrington was probably venting his frustration.)

Yesterday, Arrington offered a brief remark to a reporter, and said he would speak to the media extensively on another day. "I'm just happy to be here," Arrington said after practice. "I'm just glad to have a chance to get out there and give the fans what they are looking for."

Linebacker Marcus Washington was more expansive: "He's been going through some tough things, some things that don't really pertain to on-the-field stuff. He's just trying to concentrate more on on-the-field stuff. He's very happy to be here with the guys. He says he's feeling as good as he's felt with that knee. He's excited.

"Once he gets out there, playing heals a lot of stuff. And a lot of that stuff will go out the window. I think LaVar will feel a lot better mentally. And I know I'll feel a lot better mentally having him out there."

Despite Washington's stingy defense last season, the unit didn't make enough big plays and there is plenty of room for improvement. The defense produced 26 takeaways -- 18 interceptions and eight fumble recoveries -- better than only six clubs in the 16-team NFC.

"I've seen [Arrington] make a lot of big plays here," linebackers coach Dale Lindsey said. "So he can help us in the big-play department. He's a force to be reckoned with when he's healthy and he's playing right."

Still, he must fit into this defense. Gregg Williams's group flourished with several obscure players -- the regular season finale had eight starters whom Williams said weren't in the season opener -- and took pride in being a starless team. (Washington was the sole Pro Bowl selection.)

Arrington stands out on the defense with his immense popularity, contract, star power and talent. But will he have to prove himself to a defensive staff with assistants such as Lindsey, whom players describe as something of a drill sergeant?

"Every single one of them have to prove their worth," Williams said. "It doesn't make any difference. Marcus Washington happens to be the Pro Bowler from last year. He's got to earn his spot. He's going to have to earn his playing time this year."

Last Wednesday, Arrington and team officials met at Redskins Park and apparently overcame their differences. According to a league source familiar with the meeting, National Football League Players Association Executive Director Gene Upshaw, owner Daniel Snyder and Gibbs attended the talks. According to one person present at the meeting yesterday, Upshaw was instrumental in brokering the framework of a deal.

Before the get-together, the acrimony had been so sharp between the linebacker and the organization, said one club source, that the Redskins stopped featuring Arrington in their marketing.

According to another person with knowledge of the situation, last Wednesday's meeting was spurred when Arrington called Gibbs.

Arrington originally filed the grievance in March 2004, contending that the Redskins omitted $6.5 million in bonuses agreed upon for the 2006 season. If negotiations fall through, another arbitration date is expected to be set for Sept. 20.

Williams believes that Arrington's play won't be affected by the dispute.

"We talked about it the first day, and I said: 'You can't bring it over here,' " Williams said. "And you know what? To his credit, it's super of him: He's never brought it over there. Not once."

After yesterday's practice, Arrington was interrupted by loud calls from a coterie of young fans under several corporate tents. He was mobbed when he altered his route to sign their football, T-shirts and paraphernalia. "Feeling better?" one fan asked. "Getting there. I appreciate you for asking," Arrington responded.

The linebacker -- walking with his wife, who is expecting their first child -- plopped into a tub of ice with safety Matt Bowen near the backdoor of the facility.

"I still see '56' jerseys all over," Marshall said. "You see some Clinton Portis jerseys. But you see mostly LaVar Arrington jerseys. To me, he's still definitely the face of the Redskins."



It's actually good how this offseason is starting to turn out.

We've had numerous questions this offseason.

How are you going to fix the deep passing game?
How are you going to replace Coles?
What about Rod Gardner?
Will Sean Taylor come to camp?
How do you replace Pierce and Smoot?
Will LaVar be happy?
Will he be healthy?
What will happen to Barrow?
Will the # 1 draft picks have long holdouts?

It seems right now that just about all of our lingering questions/distractions will be out of the way by the start of the regular season.

We replaced our 2 starting receiver with 2 receivers who are speedsters with hands. That should fix our deep passing game.

Sean Taylor ended his holdout and came back on time. (Hopefully his trial will work out.)

LaVar appears happy again it looks like the greivance could be setteled and he is almost healthy.

All draft picks are here.

We replaced Smoot and Pierce with Carlos Rogers and Marshall/Holdman. I feel all 3 will be upgrades eventually.

It's justa good feeling to know that with all of the roblems going on around the league, we seem to be alright.

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It really does seem like we may be in better shape as a team then I thought, I am starting feel better about this year.

We have all our players signed and in camp.

Sean Taylor seems to have gotten it. He appears to be happy, talking to the fans and the media, he showed up in shape and ready to play.

Clinton Portis seems to have taken a leadership roll, he also seems to like the new offense.

LaVar Arrington is getting healthy and talking positive again.

Patrick Ramsey comes in as the starter and he is more comfortable with his game. He has also become the leader of the offense.

Jon Jansen is back. Enough said there.

We have gotten rid of several player who openly complain.

I finally think the positives are outweighing the negitives. I am looking forward to the season, we will be a much better team this year then last.
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Arrington is all talk and Hot air.

He has basically been an average LB his time here in DC. I dont think he is getting close to 100%. He had to ice his knee down monday after a light jog.

Marshall and Holdman are not MLB material

Marshall is to light and was an undrafted free agent for a reason.

Holdman might be okay, but he is better as an outside LB.

Smoot has not been replaced YET. Rogers is hurt, and still has to learn the system.

Your two small recievers will easily get bumped off of routes, and lose battles in jump ball situations.
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LaVar was above average when he knocked Troy Boy out !!
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SkinsChic wrote:LaVar was above average when he knocked Troy Boy out !!


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SkinsChic wrote:LaVar was above average when he knocked Troy Boy out !!


Ok skins chic you can believe that if you want.


Matter fact you can go and say that the last person Ted Johnson tackled and got a concussion from , cause the end of his career too.

You can say whatever you want to make yourself feel better on the inside, but scientific and medical facts are just that.

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and the pukes?

all kinds of questions at and an unproven linebackers corp

questions at free safety

a receiving corp that includes a possible #1 that his former and current coach once referred to as a female....another receiver who was paid not to play for an entire season by the Bucs

and a coach with man-boobs :)
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Im sick of damn cowboys fans, keep insulting our team look at theirs! They are such a weak team its unbelieveable, they think because they drafted some rookies all of a sudden they are good? Yeah I would like to see that happen :roll:
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Texas Hog wrote:and the pukes?

all kinds of questions at and an unproven linebackers corp

questions at free safety

a receiving corp that includes a possible #1 that his former and current coach once referred to as a female....another receiver who was paid not to play for an entire season by the Bucs

and a coach with man-boobs :)


Yeah lets see

Unproven questions at LB, the same can be said for your LB Corp. The only proven guy you have is Washington, While we have Dat and Singlton (superbowl player). Also i am sure Ware, James, and Burnett are better then the LB you guys drafted this year.

Unproven FS, thats ok, we have enough talent there to make something stick , beside we have Izell Reese, that same guy that pushed P. Prilena (whatever his name is) out of his starting spot at Buffalo. Also with our secondary being so deep I am hardly concern. Lastly we have tons of cash left to acquire what we need.

Yeah the recievers that are on the team Glenn and Key, I think they both have had a hand in beating you guys over the last 2 years.

That coach with Man boobs, has the edge when it comes to head to head matches with Gibbs. You obession with his "man boobs", may be a subliminal message that you are trying to get out.
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foreverD wrote:
Texas Hog wrote:and the pukes?

all kinds of questions at and an unproven linebackers corp

questions at free safety

a receiving corp that includes a possible #1 that his former and current coach once referred to as a female....another receiver who was paid not to play for an entire season by the Bucs

and a coach with man-boobs :)


Yeah lets see

Unproven questions at LB, the same can be said for your LB Corp. The only proven guy you have is Washington, While we have Dat and Singlton (superbowl player). Also i am sure Ware, James, and Burnett are better then the LB you guys drafted this year.

Unproven FS, thats ok, we have enough talent there to make something stick , beside we have Izell Reese, that same guy that pushed P. Prilena (whatever his name is) out of his starting spot at Buffalo. Also with our secondary being so deep I am hardly concern. Lastly we have tons of cash left to acquire what we need.

Yeah the recievers that are on the team Glenn and Key, I think they both have had a hand in beating you guys over the last 2 years.

That coach with Man boobs, has the edge when it comes to head to head matches with Gibbs. You obession with his "man boobs", may be a subliminal message that you are trying to get out.


Your argument is so flawed its not even funny, first of all, how is our lb's not proven?? Arrington( year b4 injury was considered top 3 olb in nfl), Lemar Marshall freakin proved himself last year( filled in for Arrington and exeeded expectations), and Im pretty sure Warrick Holdman has stayed pretty consistent throughout his career usually averaging around 80-90 tackles. WHen will you cowpuke fans realize that Glenn and Keyshawn are done, they really havent impresssed me at al, In Glenns last 4 years his highest amount of catches were 56. Keyshawn is also past his prime, wwhereas we have young, speedy talent at the wr area and im pretty sure most people in the nfl would take our recievers over yours. Face it, the cowpukes have a VERY weak team, and the only reason they are getting hype is because the draft, and last time i checked most rookies dont have initial impact on a team and it takes time for a team to gel togetner, you have a new qb who has played in parcells system but still isnt familiar with the players on offense( only terry Glenn if im not mistaken) Our rb is easily better than yours, our line is also better, and lastly our coach is WAY better, and yes parcells does have man boobs
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WshSkins22 wrote:
foreverD wrote:
Texas Hog wrote:and the pukes?

all kinds of questions at and an unproven linebackers corp

questions at free safety

a receiving corp that includes a possible #1 that his former and current coach once referred to as a female....another receiver who was paid not to play for an entire season by the Bucs

and a coach with man-boobs :)


Yeah lets see

Unproven questions at LB, the same can be said for your LB Corp. The only proven guy you have is Washington, While we have Dat and Singlton (superbowl player). Also i am sure Ware, James, and Burnett are better then the LB you guys drafted this year.

Unproven FS, thats ok, we have enough talent there to make something stick , beside we have Izell Reese, that same guy that pushed P. Prilena (whatever his name is) out of his starting spot at Buffalo. Also with our secondary being so deep I am hardly concern. Lastly we have tons of cash left to acquire what we need.

Yeah the recievers that are on the team Glenn and Key, I think they both have had a hand in beating you guys over the last 2 years.

That coach with Man boobs, has the edge when it comes to head to head matches with Gibbs. You obession with his "man boobs", may be a subliminal message that you are trying to get out.


Your argument is so flawed its not even funny, first of all, how is our lb's not proven?? Arrington( year b4 injury was considered top 3 olb in nfl), Lemar Marshall freakin proved himself last year( filled in for Arrington and exeeded expectations), and Im pretty sure Warrick Holdman has stayed pretty consistent throughout his career usually averaging around 80-90 tackles. WHen will you cowpuke fans realize that Glenn and Keyshawn are done, they really havent impresssed me at al, In Glenns last 4 years his highest amount of catches were 56. Keyshawn is also past his prime, wwhereas we have young, speedy talent at the wr area and im pretty sure most people in the nfl would take our recievers over yours. Face it, the cowpukes have a VERY weak team, and the only reason they are getting hype is because the draft, and last time i checked most rookies dont have initial impact on a team and it takes time for a team to gel togetner, you have a new qb who has played in parcells system but still isnt familiar with the players on offense( only terry Glenn if im not mistaken) Our rb is easily better than yours, our line is also better, and lastly our coach is WAY better, and yes parcells does have man boobs


Well its like this

1. Arrington is hurt and has not really played in the new system. Gibbs has said he should be ready by the start of the season, but during camp he said he would be ready by training camp
2. Marshall has not played MLB and is to tall and light to be effective
3. Holdman has not played MLB and has not played in the system.


Ok Glenn and Key are a year older, but so is everone else in the league, whats your point. I think Dyson is 30 and did not play last year, Thrash is 30, Patten is about 31, while Glenn is 31 and Key is 33, Morgan is 28

If you want to get deep with it

Jacobs is 24 in his 3rd year has 19 catches and 215 yards and 1 td. He was a 2nd round pick.

while

Crayton is 26 in his second year has 12 catches and 162 yards and 1 td. That one burning springs and taylor. He was a 7thh round pic

Since you talking about geling together, you have two new recievers that have to gel with a qb.

A new rookie CB that has to gel with a new defense

Holdman has to gel with the D

Raybach has to gel with the new offensive system and new QB

Your whole line has to gel with its new blocking scheme

So your GEL point is moot
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foreverD wrote:Well its like this

1. Arrington is hurt and has not really played in the new system. Gibbs has said he should be ready by the start of the season, but during camp he said he would be ready by training camp
2. Marshall has not played MLB and is to tall and light to be effective
3. Holdman has not played MLB and has not played in the system.


Ok Glenn and Key are a year older, but so is everone else in the league, whats your point. I think Dyson is 30 and did not play last year, Thrash is 30, Patten is about 31, while Glenn is 31 and Key is 33, Morgan is 28

If you want to get deep with it

Jacobs is 24 in his 3rd year has 19 catches and 215 yards and 1 td. He was a 2nd round pick.

while

Crayton is 26 in his second year has 12 catches and 162 yards and 1 td. That one burning springs and taylor. He was a 7thh round pic

Since you talking about geling together, you have two new recievers that have to gel with a qb.

A new rookie CB that has to gel with a new defense

Holdman has to gel with the D

Raybach has to gel with the new offensive system and new QB

Your whole line has to gel with its new blocking scheme

So your GEL point is moot


#1, Arrington beasted in preseason last year. Gibbs and the Redskins are taking their time with him because he is one of the best in the league. Rushing him back isn't the smartest thing to do. He's been doing agility drills but no contact. Washington and Arrington on the outside is probably better than any OLB combination in the league.

#2, In regards to Marshall... you, me and everyone else probably said the same thing about Pierce last year. GW gets the most from his players. Count on it.

#3, I really don't think it matters who GW and Lindsey decide to put at MLB. They'll play whoever does the best job.

No use arguing who has better receivers. Both Ramsey and Bledsoe are in a similar situation.

Just like Sean Taylor didn't start last year. Rogers will not start this year. I think that's pretty evident considering he's hurt right now. He will be worked in when GW thinks he's ready.

Our defense WILL be better than Dallas's this year. We have hardly any big changes on D. We're getting back players who actually KNOW the system.

Holdman is a solid player. Holdman was also coached previously by our position specific coaches. I'm sure he's seen all of these drills before. Yes, he needs to "gel" with the rest of the team but if GW can get the type of production from a bunch of no names like he did last year, Holdman will pick it up just fine. We went after him last year for a reason. Our linebackers are probably the most solid position on the team.

Our line has one new starter and a returning tackle that learned from Bugel last year. There shouldn't be THAT much change from last year. I think it's safe to say that Bugel knows what he's doing and he'll get these guys ready.

The entire league has to gel right now. Not just the Redskins and the Cowboys. There is turnover on every team. There is A LOT of turnover on the Cowboys. A lot more turnover vs. the Skins. We'll all find out who did a better job in about a month...
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EasyMoney wrote:
foreverD wrote:Well its like this

1. Arrington is hurt and has not really played in the new system. Gibbs has said he should be ready by the start of the season, but during camp he said he would be ready by training camp
2. Marshall has not played MLB and is to tall and light to be effective
3. Holdman has not played MLB and has not played in the system.


Ok Glenn and Key are a year older, but so is everone else in the league, whats your point. I think Dyson is 30 and did not play last year, Thrash is 30, Patten is about 31, while Glenn is 31 and Key is 33, Morgan is 28

If you want to get deep with it

Jacobs is 24 in his 3rd year has 19 catches and 215 yards and 1 td. He was a 2nd round pick.

while

Crayton is 26 in his second year has 12 catches and 162 yards and 1 td. That one burning springs and taylor. He was a 7thh round pic

Since you talking about geling together, you have two new recievers that have to gel with a qb.

A new rookie CB that has to gel with a new defense

Holdman has to gel with the D

Raybach has to gel with the new offensive system and new QB

Your whole line has to gel with its new blocking scheme

So your GEL point is moot


#1, Arrington beasted in preseason last year. Gibbs and the Redskins are taking their time with him because he is one of the best in the league. Rushing him back isn't the smartest thing to do. He's been doing agility drills but no contact. Washington and Arrington on the outside is probably better than any OLB combination in the league.

#2, In regards to Marshall... you, me and everyone else probably said the same thing about Pierce last year. GW gets the most from his players. Count on it.

#3, I really don't think it matters who GW and Lindsey decide to put at MLB. They'll play whoever does the best job.

No use arguing who has better receivers. Both Ramsey and Bledsoe are in a similar situation.

Just like Sean Taylor didn't start last year. Rogers will not start this year. I think that's pretty evident considering he's hurt right now. He will be worked in when GW thinks he's ready.

Our defense WILL be better than Dallas's this year. We have hardly any big changes on D. We're getting back players who actually KNOW the system.

Holdman is a solid player. Holdman was also coached previously by our position specific coaches. I'm sure he's seen all of these drills before. Yes, he needs to "gel" with the rest of the team but if GW can get the type of production from a bunch of no names like he did last year, Holdman will pick it up just fine. We went after him last year for a reason. Our linebackers are probably the most solid position on the team.

Our line has one new starter and a returning tackle that learned from Bugel last year. There shouldn't be THAT much change from last year. I think it's safe to say that Bugel knows what he's doing and he'll get these guys ready.

The entire league has to gel right now. Not just the Redskins and the Cowboys. There is turnover on every team. There is A LOT of turnover on the Cowboys. A lot more turnover vs. the Skins. We'll all find out who did a better job in about a month...


Good post Easymoney and good form......(HOOK)

No use arguing who has better receivers. Both Ramsey and Bledsoe are in a similar situation.


Yeah they are, if they can stay off the turf both teams will and should do well
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foreverD wrote:
Texas Hog wrote:and the pukes?

all kinds of questions at and an unproven linebackers corp

questions at free safety

a receiving corp that includes a possible #1 that his former and current coach once referred to as a female....another receiver who was paid not to play for an entire season by the Bucs

and a coach with man-boobs :)


Yeah lets see

Unproven questions at LB, the same can be said for your LB Corp. The only proven guy you have is Washington, While we have Dat and Singlton (superbowl player). Also i am sure Ware, James, and Burnett are better then the LB you guys drafted this year.

Unproven FS, thats ok, we have enough talent there to make something stick , beside we have Izell Reese, that same guy that pushed P. Prilena (whatever his name is) out of his starting spot at Buffalo. Also with our secondary being so deep I am hardly concern. Lastly we have tons of cash left to acquire what we need.

Yeah the recievers that are on the team Glenn and Key, I think they both have had a hand in beating you guys over the last 2 years.

That coach with Man boobs, has the edge when it comes to head to head matches with Gibbs. You obession with his "man boobs", may be a subliminal message that you are trying to get out.


Dat will be switching positions and although I think he's a good player, no one's sure if he'll be able to take the pounding of a 4-3 and playing the weakside (making all the tackles).

Secondary depth? We'll see if Aaron Glenn can provide it. Interesting that man boobs is thinking about using Newman for punt returns. He won't last. I can see him going down in a heap. Oh and of course, the we have lots of $$ argument. I see how confident y'all are in that secondary depth...trying out another veteran corner today.

Teresa and Meshawn beating us? How does that address the fact that they suck and are past their prime?

I'm not the one sucking man-boobs here.
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Cris Carter's take on the receivers

Most overrated: Santana Moss
You can include David Boston, Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn and Koren Robinson in the group of receivers who have yet to make the most of their talent. Moss, though, is the one most likely to fulfill his potential.

The change of scenery with the Washington Redskins could be good for Moss. He's still very young (26), and Joe Gibbs really needs a speed guy like Moss in his offense. That said, Moss won't make his mark in Washington until the Redskins settle their quarterback situation.






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SkinsChic wrote:LaVar was above average when he knocked Troy Boy out !!


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What is this about Marshall being "too tall" to play MLB? I don't even know what that means. He's an inch taller than Pierce. He is a little light to play the middle tho. Probably weighs less than Taylor.
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Gregg Williams said the play of Peirce last year was not unusal considering AP had never played MLB before. He said he isn't worried about who will fill the spot, and speaks highly of Marshall.

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