sch1977 wrote:I dont understand why some people think LaVar has not "lived up to his potential"! He has posted very good, if not great, numbers throughout his career. Please explain why you feel that he is overrated or not producing.
This is how it should end
There are probally cap ramifications that I haven't considered, but here's what I would like to see.
Redskin in Canada wrote:This is one of the best threads, if not the best, in this website during the offseason. Our posters are getting ready for the regular season! Great going guys!
1niksder wrote:Here's a new spin on this whole mess.
1. The NFLPA canceled Arrington's hearing at the players request. My Take: LA knew he couldn't win this so he backed out, but didn't cut and run.
2. Lavar fired a high powered group of lawyers and hired one. My Take: His attorney's were telling him the same thing that the league mouthpeices were saying. So he needed a new plan.
3. Lavar and his new Suit wants to have a sit down with "the Danny". My Take: LA needs to save face
That's where this mess is and that's my take on it.
How would I like it to end
1. Lavar needs to dump and sue the Postons.
2. "the Danny" agrees to redo Lavar's contract where in the end Lavar gats a fair deal considering ALL that has transpired.
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:Gibbs' Hog wrote:The constant yellow-text hatred is an eyesore to me.
Not only to you but to many of us too.
MENTAL NOTE -- Things to Do:
a) Change text color in my posts from now on.
b) Thank SkinzDomin8 for ruining it for those of us who originally rocked the yellow text with all his constant Skins-bashing.
). You use to hate on LA almost as much as Brainiac. You changed for reasons I've yet to discover. However you not posting in yellow because of SD8 would be a travashamockery, and we that joined the week that you did won't stand for it. SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:Wow. What a "True/Core Redskin" this piece of garbage is.
Where are all his defenders now? Do any of you realize that his proposed new arbitrated contract would basically squash the Redskins cap situation yet you let this piece of garbage run amuck on the team?
... You seem to know the outcome of ever issue that is Redskin related, Regardless of the facts.SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:I am now more firmly entrenched in my beliefs that Arrington is all mouth and I find it hillarious how all he needs to do is say stupid asinine things like: "I love these guys" (supposedly referring to his team-mates) and shedding a few crocodile tears.
At first it was surprising to me the number of people that believed Mr. Mouth Arrington and paraded him like he was some Redskins Icon when in fact he hasn't done ANYTHING except get injured, run his stupid mouth, complain about his contract, get someone shot at a party, etc......
SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:Now I just laugh at all of his defenders like the lemmings they are. If it were up to me he'd be shipped to Arizona or San Francisco (Don't be surprised if that happens).
He is an eyesore on this team. Definitely NOT a TRUE/CORE Redskin.
1niksder wrote:REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:MENTAL NOTE -- Things to Do:
a) Change text color in my posts from now on.
b) Thank SkinzDomin8 for ruining it for those of us who originally rocked the yellow text with all his constant Skins-bashing.
You've been yellow since you've been here(Didn't mean it the way it came out"
, at the very least you could go back to that orange/red color that didn't clash with the background.
I'm a Redskin Fan + Lavar Arrington wears the B&G = I support Lavar
That being said He missed most of last season (and was payed hansomely - also so has a nice piece of coin coming THIS year) but the defense thrived. Even if he comes back healthy, the baggage of a arbitration hearing versus the front office would have negative effects on the team. I was thinking this might work out to be a good thing. according to you I'm wrong
sch1977 wrote:I dont understand why some people think LaVar has not "lived up to his potential"! He has posted very good, if not great, numbers throughout his career. Please explain why you feel that he is overrated or not producing.
Redskins1974 wrote:sch1977 wrote:I dont understand why some people think LaVar has not "lived up to his potential"! He has posted very good, if not great, numbers throughout his career. Please explain why you feel that he is overrated or not producing.
IMO, he's produced GOOD but no where near GREAT numbers. Especially with the extra large contract he received. I like Lavar but I'm just saying it's time to bring his game to the next level with consistent great play. Sure, he's had a few great plays (Aikmen) that make the highlight reels but he also gets out of position and gives up a big play with his freelancing style. I think Williams can only help him so I hope that Lavar can listen to his coaches and play within the scheme. I'll take team play over one potentially great freelancer any day of the week.
SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:I'm a Redskin Fan + Lavar Arrington wears the B&G = I support Lavar
That being said He missed most of last season (and was payed hansomely - also so has a nice piece of coin coming THIS year) but the defense thrived. Even if he comes back healthy, the baggage of a arbitration hearing versus the front office would have negative effects on the team. I was thinking this might work out to be a good thing. according to you I'm wrong
Dude......What are you trying to say? You contadict yourself again.
So you are a Lavar fan yet you admit I am right (once again) in your own post that his stupid arbitration hearing is going to be one more unwanted distraction at the very least?
Gibbs' Hog wrote:I'm not too sure, but I imagine he would see typical playing time (for a starter) during the preseason, which would likely be a quarter or so. I think they have said he should be fully set to begin the regular season. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Redskins, Arrington Settle Grievance
Compensation Unlikely for Star
By Jason La Canfora
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, July 30, 2005; Page E01
Lawyers and representatives from the Washington Redskins met with linebacker LaVar Arrington this week to settle his lingering financial grievance with the team, NFL sources said. The meeting was held after Arrington opted out of an arbitration hearing earlier this month.
Two league sources with knowledge of the situation, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that Arrington's new lawyer, Steve Brown, as well as officials from the NFL Players Association including NFLPA Executive Director Gene Upshaw visited Redskins Park in Ashburn on Wednesday, at which time the matter was resolved.
Karl Swanson, a spokesman for Redskins owner Dan Snyder, said he was unable to reach him for comment yesterday. Snyder is on vacation in Colorado. Vinny Cerrato, the team's vice president of football operations, did not return a call seeking comment. Coach and team president Joe Gibbs was contacted through a team spokesman but did not comment.
Brown, who spoke openly earlier this month about Arrington's desire to mend relations with the club and reach a "win-win" solution to the grievance, has not returned repeated phone calls this week. A message left with the NFLPA was not returned.
Arrington contended that the Redskins failed to include a $6.5 million bonus in the eight-year, $68 million contract he signed with the team in December 2003. After a year of delays the case was scheduled to be heard July 18. Arrington met with Upshaw a few days before that date and decided to forgo arbitration, because, as Brown later stated, "It's not a matter that [should be] litigated where one party is making allegations in a semi-public forum against other parties with a third party [arbitrator] involved."
Arrington missed virtually all of the 2004 season because of knee problems and twice underwent surgery to remedy the injury. During the offseason he criticized coaches and trainers for their handling of his knee injury after the team failed to announce that he had undergone a second surgical procedure. He was unable to participate in mini-camp this spring and he might not be cleared to participate in contact drills when training camp begins Monday morning.
Brown said previously that Arrington wanted the grievance settled before the start of training camp, but with Gibbs and Snyder on vacation, it was difficult to get all of them together. The reason for the meeting Wednesday was as much to solve the financial matter as it was to repair a strained relationship between the player and the team, according to Brown.
"LaVar recognizes that it's to everybody's benefit to restore this relationship," Brown said during an interview 10 days ago. "And he's the one reaching out to the team to restore that relationship."
The Redskins reacted immediately to Arrington's request to postpone the arbitration date. Director of football administration Eric Schaffer, the team's primary negotiator, issued a statement saying, "While we agreed to the postponement I think it is very important to finalize through arbitration that the Redskins did nothing wrong to our highest-paid player. I also feel strongly that the business ethics of the agent should be questioned and looked into."
Schaffer did not return a call seeking comment on the meeting with Arrington, and Arrington's agent, Carl Poston, has not returned numerous phone calls on the matter.
Redskins Notes: The Redskins are still trying to sign first-round picks Carlos Rogers and Jason Campbell before the start of training camp, and will work all weekend to attempt to do so. "We're exchanging ideas and having conversations, but nothing is imminent at this time," said Campbell's agent Joel Segal, adding that they still have "plenty of time" to get a deal in place by Monday. . . . The Redskins signed safety Omar Stoutmire yesterday and released offensive lineman Ben Nowland. Stoutimre spent five seasons with the New York Giants but missed all but one game last season due to a knee injury. He has started 51 NFL games over eight seasons.
Warmother wrote:Since neither Arrington or the Redskin's management is making comments on this I hope it did end in a "win, win". I have a feeling though that it didn't.
BATMAN wrote:Warmother wrote:Since neither Arrington or the Redskin's management is making comments on this I hope it did end in a "win, win". I have a feeling though that it didn't.
WIN-WIN situations always end with a press conference. There was no press conference....and there was no comment. Therefore, this is no win win situation. Lavar has lost his rediculous claim because he was finally able to be told by somebody OTHER than his agent that a signed contract is a LEGAL document.
Apparently Lavar was under the impression that since he is a star and use to getting his way, just saying he didn't like his "signed" contract would immediately make everybody jump. Guess what, nobody was jumping and Lavar got mad. Tough.
Let him sue his idiot agents for change.
Wrong thread? What am I missing here?