Arrington Case Settled

[blchizzleke]

Lets face it. LaVar did enter a tough situation when he came on with the Redskins. He had a different coach/system in nearly every year since he came into the league. That being said he is a selfish player who isn't really dedicated to the team but rather dedicated to the green.

As a sidenote (although I do not agree with this person's opinion, it is still an opinion that is out there) in one cbssportsline.com I saw (maybe it was a Vic Carucci article but I'm not sure) that he listed him as one of the top 10 overrated players in the league.

[SkinsJock]

..As a sidenote (although I do not agree with this person's opinion, it is still an opinion that is out there) in one cbssportsline.com I saw that he listed him as one of the top 10 overrated players in the league.

Thank you for bringing it up again and again I will ask, is there another player at this position that you would select right now instead of Lavar? Okay! - lets just assume that he is going to have the monster year he's capable of and let these media types make up some more anti-Redskin stuff. Last year means nothing except how much better we will be with him than we were without him!

When you have been here a little longer you will quickly learn that if you're interested in Redskins news you'll look here first because there is nothing factual out "there"!

[blchizzleke]

"Thank you for bringing it up again and again I will ask, is there another player at this position that you would select right now instead of Lavar? Okay! - lets just assume that he is going to have the monster year he's capable of and let these media types make up some more anti-Redskin stuff. Last year means nothing except how much better we will be with him than we were without him!"

I said that point of view did not reflect my personal opinion. I was using that to justify how selfish he is being. Instead of LaVar I would much rather have someone who was committed to what we are trying to accomplish. This sounds cliche but you know what you do when you assume, dont you? Furthermore, I know he is one of the best if not the best but once his contract runs out do you expect him to resign? [/quote]

[SkinsJock]

Sorry! Didn't mean to jump. I agree with your questioning but am very hopeful that the player will be there for us this year. He is very good when he is "on" and will be huge with Greg's system IMO.

I am just questioning the logic that he is the most over-rated player in the NFL when he was barely on the field. I understand if that is applied to a player that is playing but to let last season reflect an opinion of his career is a little unfair. We are all disapointed in how things have gone for him lately (last few years!) but this guy can be huge for us and IMO he is most definetly not the most over-rated player in the NFL.

we have come to expect this sort of drivel about our team and the whole organization so it should not surprise us.

[Gibbs' Hog]

Furthermore, I know he is one of the best if not the best but once his contract runs out do you expect him to resign?

I expect him to re-sign. All the naysayers will see; LaVar is gonna come back stronger than ever, and the first guy he knocks the crap out of will prove the journalists wrong. Barring a complete fallout with the team, I think LaVar will become the Redskin that he was only two years ago. All of us loved the guy (I've never lost respect for him personally, and have been anxiously awaiting his return), and he is exactly the type of player I see Gibbs drooling over once all this money and injury stuff is out of the way.

Through all this stuff, he has always reiterated his devotion to the Skins, and his desire to remain a Redskin for life. I pray that that is the case. I only hope he can get the money issue resolved - one way or another - and get back on the field in his usual, bruising form.

[blchizzleke]

I really hope you're right and that he does resign. But I have just had my doubts recently with the whole arbitration thing.

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

Furthermore, I know he is one of the best if not the best but once his contract runs out do you expect him to resign?

I expect him to re-sign. ...I only hope he can get the money issue resolved - one way or another - and get back on the field in his usual, bruising form.

:hmm: Re-sign?? I thought the contract currently being disputed was supposed to make him a Redskin for life.

I, too, hope he can come back in top form to the team. As much as I've ragged on the guy in the past, I can't get the sound of the radio broadcast the night of the falcons pre-season game when it seemed like he and the defense were gonna be very sweet! The roar of the crowd ws tremendous, and it seemed like Lavar would be perfect for Williams' system.

Hopefully, we can enjoy watching him play this season. This whole arbitration thing needs to hurry up and die.

[Gibbs' Hog]

[color=yellow]:hmm: Re-sign?? I thought the contract currently being disputed was supposed to make him a Redskin for life.

You're probably right; I was just responding to the "you think he'll re-sign?" question. Then again, are contracts even valid in the NFL anymore? Aren't they just written on toilet paper so they can be dissolved in water the second some ridiculous issue pops up?



By the way, I don't really have a problem with LaVar wanting his money. Correct me if I'm wrong someone, but wasn't it LaVar's agent that should have known about the $6+ mil. in the first place?

Personally, I can understand the negative response to LaVar's "whining" about the money, but I see that guy as a true football fanatic. He just gives off that impression that he really loves the game for what it is, which is probably why I admire him. I think the Danny should just invite LaVar over to his new 186,000,000 sf pad, cook a nice dinner for him, and stuff a little $6 mil. check in his coat pocket on his way out the door.

[BATMAN]

If Lavar can stay healthy and make the pro bowl for the next 2 years, then maybe we can talk about keeping him. But right now he is not on anybody's happy list, and that includes Greg Williams. Greg is extrememly displeased with his attitude and performance so far and needless to say, Lavar must prove he is healthy and WIN a starting job from Marshall.

We had the number 3 defense last year with Marshall and there is really no need to panic if Lavar cannot play or if he continues to be a disgruntled force in the locker room. NOBODY...and I mean nobody is above being benched or cut.
But first, let Arrington get on the field because as of right this moment...if the season started..he could not play.

[vtfootball07]

I mean nobody is above being benched or cut.

The reality of the situation is that he is above being cut. With the amount of money the Redskins are paying him, the cap hit by cutting him would be devastating. He wants to play and will do whatever he needs to do so, including staying where he's supposed to be. He's simply a better athlete than Marshall is and therefore gives GW greater flexibility in designing schemes.

[Jake]

LaVar hires new attorney to solve contract dispute
By David Elfin
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 18, 2005

LaVar Arrington has hired a new attorney in hopes of resolving his 19-month-old contract dispute with the Washington Redskins.
"I was brought in to give LaVar a fresh set of eyes," attorney Steve Brown said. "LaVar would like to get a resolution of this before training camp starts [in two weeks], and after reviewing the documents, I expect that we can come to a win-win resolution and LaVar can restore the relationships with the Redskins that are so important to him."
Although Redskins owner Dan Snyder and coach Joe Gibbs are both on extended vacations that aren't due to be completed until just before camp begins at Redskin Park, Brown is hopeful a meeting can be arranged to settle the dispute. NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw also would be expected to participate.
The dispute, which was going to be heard by an arbitrator today before being postponed last week at the request of Brown, Arrington and the NFLPA, stems from the eight-year, $68?million contract extension the three-time Pro Bowl linebacker signed in December 2003. He and agent Carl Poston say the Redskins owe him another $6.5?million in signing bonus for redoing his deal. The Redskins vehemently disagree and say Poston didn't carefully review the contract before signing it.
Arrington missed most of last season following arthroscopic knee surgery. When he needed a followup procedure in April, he blasted the Redskins for not promptly announcing the news. After meeting with Gibbs the next day, Arrington turned around and ripped the media for reporting his anger. He hasn't talked to reporters since.

http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20050 ... -9116r.htm

[1niksder]

Maybe he hired a new lawyer because he needs to hear - "Dude there's no way around it, That Poston fellow screwed you - That's who you should be sueing" Whatever the reason for this move hopefully it will be over soon

[1niksder]

Arrington Hoping To Resolve Matters


Tuesday, July 19, 2005; Page E02

Linebacker LaVar Arrington hopes to meet with Washington Redskins officials before training camp to "restore" his relationship with the organization and resolve a lingering grievance over a $6.5 million bonus payment, according to his attorney, Steve Brown . Brown said he is optimistic that he, Arrington, NFL Players Association Executive Director Gene Upshaw and owner Dan Snyder will meet in the next two weeks, at which time Brown expects the grievance to be resolved.

Arrington's grievance was to have gone before an arbitrator yesterday, but he opted out of that process last week in favor of a meeting, which Brown said will facilitate rebuilding Arrington's bond with the franchise after he clashed with the club over their handling of his injuries and contract grievance.

"As a pallbearer of Dan Snyder's father, as a person who accommodated the team twice in restructuring his contract to help the salary cap, as a person who gives back to the community and as a person who cares very much about Redskins fans and a person now reaching out to the team to restore their relationship," Brown said of Arrington, "this cries out for us to get together and resolve this."

Meantime, the Redskins agreed to terms with fullback Nehemiah Broughton, their seventh-round pick, on a three-year deal worth approximately $970,000 with a $42,000 signing bonus, league sources said. Wide receiver Damien Harrell, a star in the Arena Football League, is expected to be given a pre-training camp tryout.


-- Jason La Canfora

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01194.html

[BATMAN]

I mean nobody is above being benched or cut.

The reality of the situation is that he is above being cut. With the amount of money the Redskins are paying him, the cap hit by cutting him would be devastating. He wants to play and will do whatever he needs to do so, including staying where he's supposed to be. He's simply a better athlete than Marshall is and therefore gives GW greater flexibility in designing schemes.

First of all, I need to say that you are preoccupied with athletes. Let me clue you in on something: Athletes do not make football teams.....football players do. Many an "athlete" has tried to make a football team only to fail. Lavar might be a great ATHLETE"...but Marshall played solid football last season and the team benefited. Lavar is an "athlete"...and a SELFISH athlete. I would rather have Marshall.

2nd of all...like I said...nobody is above being cut. It might have to be next season after June...but nobody is above being cut. You seem to have become locked in to thinking that Lavar has a job for life and just has to show up to camp to gain a starting job with the Skins.

I think Greg Williams and Joe Gibbs would differ with that line of thinking. I also think Lavar thinks a lot like you...which is why he is acting the way that he does. He is about to get a dose of reality if he does not concede and begin acting like a grownup.

[Chris Luva Luva]

I mean nobody is above being benched or cut.

The reality of the situation is that he is above being cut. With the amount of money the Redskins are paying him, the cap hit by cutting him would be devastating. He wants to play and will do whatever he needs to do so, including staying where he's supposed to be. He's simply a better athlete than Marshall is and therefore gives GW greater flexibility in designing schemes.

I agree that cutting Arrington is not a good deal for us now. Im not saying that he should be cut either. Arrington has a lot to prove to me this year. I know that he doesn't owe me a darn thing but he has left a sour taste in my mouth. After lying on Gibbs and the training staff and now this ruling is dragging out, Lavar hasn't done anything to make me feel good about him. I understand dude wants his money but when he lied and said that the coaches are at fault for his injury when he said during that season that they were treating him great is just wrong.

I'm tired of hearing about him, I want this over with so he can slink back into the shadows, heal up, and show us why he's the man.

[SKINZ_DOMIN8]

LaVar hires new attorney to solve contract dispute
By David Elfin
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 18, 2005

LaVar Arrington has hired a new attorney in hopes of resolving his 19-month-old contract dispute with the Washington Redskins.
"I was brought in to give LaVar a fresh set of eyes," attorney Steve Brown said. "LaVar would like to get a resolution of this before training camp starts [in two weeks], and after reviewing the documents, I expect that we can come to a win-win resolution and LaVar can restore the relationships with the Redskins that are so important to him."
Although Redskins owner Dan Snyder and coach Joe Gibbs are both on extended vacations that aren't due to be completed until just before camp begins at Redskin Park, Brown is hopeful a meeting can be arranged to settle the dispute. NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw also would be expected to participate.
The dispute, which was going to be heard by an arbitrator today before being postponed last week at the request of Brown, Arrington and the NFLPA, stems from the eight-year, $68?million contract extension the three-time Pro Bowl linebacker signed in December 2003. He and agent Carl Poston say the Redskins owe him another $6.5?million in signing bonus for redoing his deal. The Redskins vehemently disagree and say Poston didn't carefully review the contract before signing it.
Arrington missed most of last season following arthroscopic knee surgery. When he needed a followup procedure in April, he blasted the Redskins for not promptly announcing the news. After meeting with Gibbs the next day, Arrington turned around and ripped the media for reporting his anger. He hasn't talked to reporters since.

http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20050 ... -9116r.htm

Wow. What a "True/Core Redskin" this piece of garbage is.

Where are all his defenders now? Do any of you realize that his proposed new arbitrated contract would basically squash the Redskins cap situation yet you let this piece of garbage run amuck on the team?

I am now more firmly entrenched in my beliefs that Arrington is all mouth and I find it hillarious how all he needs to do is say stupid asinine things like: "I love these guys" (supposedly referring to his team-mates) and shedding a few crocodile tears.

At first it was surprising to me the number of people that believed Mr. Mouth Arrington and paraded him like he was some Redskins Icon when in fact he hasn't done ANYTHING except get injured, run his stupid mouth, complain about his contract, get someone shot at a party, etc......

Now I just laugh at all of his defenders like the lemmings they are. If it were up to me he'd be shipped to Arizona or San Francisco (Don't be surprised if that happens).

He is an eyesore on this team. Definitely NOT a TRUE/CORE Redskin.

[vtfootball07]

I mean nobody is above being benched or cut.

The reality of the situation is that he is above being cut. With the amount of money the Redskins are paying him, the cap hit by cutting him would be devastating. He wants to play and will do whatever he needs to do so, including staying where he's supposed to be. He's simply a better athlete than Marshall is and therefore gives GW greater flexibility in designing schemes.

First of all, I need to say that you are preoccupied with athletes. Let me clue you in on something: Athletes do not make football teams.....football players do. Many an "athlete" has tried to make a football team only to fail. Lavar might be a great ATHLETE"...but Marshall played solid football last season and the team benefited. Lavar is an "athlete"...and a SELFISH athlete. I would rather have Marshall.

2nd of all...like I said...nobody is above being cut. It might have to be next season after June...but nobody is above being cut. You seem to have become locked in to thinking that Lavar has a job for life and just has to show up to camp to gain a starting job with the Skins.

I think Greg Williams and Joe Gibbs would differ with that line of thinking. I also think Lavar thinks a lot like you...which is why he is acting the way that he does. He is about to get a dose of reality if he does not concede and begin acting like a grownup.

Batman, become informed about what my opinion is on players and THEN say that I'm "preoccupied" with athletes rather than football players. Note some of my previous posts have said that LA doesn't deserve the $6.5M because his agents messed up. And yes, he does have something to prove because he wasn't missed last year. However, if there is no chance that he will be cut this year(which he absolutely won't be due to cap ramifications), then don't talk about it being a possibility - it simply isn't realistic. We'd be better off talking about potential first round draft picks two years from now and focusing on restructuring salaries in the meantime.

[Gibbs' Hog]

Wow. What a "True/Core Redskin" this piece of garbage is.

Where are all his defenders now?

Still here, peeving you off, I guess.

I am now more firmly entrenched in my beliefs that Arrington is all mouth and I find it hillarious how all he needs to do is say stupid asinine things like: "I love these guys" (supposedly referring to his team-mates) and shedding a few crocodile tears.

Have you ever not been firmly entrenched in any of your crazy beliefs?

At first it was surprising to me the number of people that believed Mr. Mouth Arrington and paraded him like he was some Redskins Icon when in fact he hasn't done ANYTHING except get injured, run his stupid mouth, complain about his contract, get someone shot at a party, etc......

Yeah, he hasn't done ANYTHING.

Career Stats

Tackles - solo
2000 - 46
2001 - 83
2002 - 73
2003 - 81
2004 - 11 (injured)

Tackles - total (w/ assists)
2000 - 55
2001 - 99
2002 - 95
2003 - 90
2004 - 15 (injured)

Sacks
2000 - 4
2001 - 0.5
2002 - 11
2003 - 6
2004 - 1 (injured)

2001 - 3 Int., 120 yds


Even if you argue that there are players with better stats, you are still blowing smoke if you claim that his only accomplishments are getting injured and running his mouth.

Now I just laugh at all of his defenders like the lemmings they are. If it were up to me he'd be shipped to Arizona or San Francisco (Don't be surprised if that happens).

He is an eyesore on this team. Definitely NOT a TRUE/CORE Redskin.

The constant yellow-text hatred is an eyesore to me.

[Redskin in Canada]

The constant yellow-text hatred is an eyesore to me.

Not only to you but to many of us too.

This is nothing but the result of lack of professionalism by the over-paid Poston brothers. The mess will be settled and Lavar will have a Pro-Bowl year. This will be yet -another- reminder to the "fan" three messages above.

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

The constant yellow-text hatred is an eyesore to me.

Not only to you but to many of us too.

MENTAL NOTE -- Things to Do:

a) Change text color in my posts from now on.

b) Thank SkinzDomin8 for ruining it for those of us who originally rocked the yellow text with all his constant Skins-bashing.

[sch1977]

Skinsdomihates=Cowpuke fan.

I for one still defend the fact that Lavar is a great player. I dont feel that he is overrated in any way because he was injured. I dont care about his contract dispute as long as it doesnt affect his play on the field.

[SkinsJock]

welch has a QB "he who shall not be named" and I recently decided I have a poster here "who shall not be named"! He gets way too much attention!

I for one still defend the fact that Lavar is a great player. I dont feel that he is overrated in any way because he was injured. I dont care about his contract dispute as long as it doesnt affect his play on the field.

Most of us would agree with you about the ability it's just that recently he has been a disapointment with his play (or lack thereof) and his "attitude" towards the team as reported by some (admittedly questionable) media sources.

IMO we will see a "new" Lavar and a new committment to the team concepts that are so important to Joe and most of the other players. We all hope so anyway! This guy may just be a very good player for us under Greg's system, but he also should get back to being the leader he is capable of. That would be even more important.

[Redskins1974]

It's time for Lavar to shed the word potential and start living up to it. I said this last offseason and I'll say it until he starts backing up his words and potential with consistent, Greg Williams style, team effort. He has the ability but it is time for him to show it, IMO.

[sch1977]

I dont understand why some people think LaVar has not "lived up to his potential"! He has posted very good, if not great, numbers throughout his career. Please explain why you feel that he is overrated or not producing.

[SkinsJock]

I dont understand why some people think LaVar has not "lived up to his potential"!

IMO because "lately" he is not on the field and his lack of team spirit is not looking good!

Please explain why you feel that he is overrated or not producing.

I think that may be a little strong! He is not overrated to many of us! He just was not on the field for us last year and the year before he was seen in an "unfriendly" light.
I think he's a talent and IMO we are going to put all this BS behind us shortly as he will quiet any critics with his play this season.