TO as a Skin?

SkinzAre#1 · Post by **SkinzAre#1** » Wed May 11, 2005 11:53 am

PHILADELPHIA -- The Philadelphia Eagles will not renegotiate the contract of star wide receiver Terrell Owens, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported Wednesday.

Terrell Owens fired longtime agent David Joseph in April, hired Drew Rosenhaus and started asking for a renegotiation just one year into a seven-year deal worth almost $49 million.

The Eagles have intimated they wouldn't redo the contract, and owner Lurie told the newspaper, "It's not even an issue."

"It's a non-issue," Lurie said. "There are a lot of things I spend time thinking about, but that's not one of them."

Lurie criticized Owens' new agent for giving him "self-destructive advice."

The flamboyant Owens helped the Eagles reach the Super Bowl in his first season in Philadelphia after eight years with San Francisco.

Owens, reached at his offseason home in Atlanta, declined to comment.

Rosenhaus also declined to respond. "My policies are not to comment, so I have no comment," Rosenhaus said.

Owens skipped the Eagles' mandatory minicamp April 29, in a holdout that could extend into training camp, which starts in late July.

"I know I'm a top player in the game, and my current contract doesn't justify that," Owens had said after hiring Rosenhaus.

"Every player is both fragile and talented," said Lurie, who was traveling Wednesday with NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue to a conference of chief executive officers in Beijing.

"Unfortunately, we're seeing around the league certain agents who take advantage of the fragility of the players, and are less worried about their continued success and stability than acting self destructively. It's too bad," he said.

Asked if he expects Owens to be with the Eagles next season, Lurie said, "If he wants to win a Super Bowl, he should be."

"At this level, with multimillions [of dollars], you're just trying to leave a legacy and win Super Bowls, as far as I am concerned. And he's got a great opportunity," Lurie said.

---This is a news clip from ESPN.com. What do you guys think? He made an instant impact on the Eagles last year. He is a big imposing dude. I know it prob. won't work with the salary cap and him possibly not being a "Core Player", or "Gibbs guy".

SKINZ_DOMIN8 · Post by **SKINZ_DOMIN8** » Wed May 11, 2005 12:03 pm

Oh no. We have too many decent receivers that deserve a full look.

skins81 · Post by **skins81** » Wed May 11, 2005 1:28 pm

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed May 11, 2005 4:14 pm

Primetime42 · Post by **Primetime42** » Wed May 11, 2005 4:44 pm

I'd rather they sign another disgruntled 2004 Eagle WR :lol:

redskindave · Post by **redskindave** » Wed May 11, 2005 8:57 pm

No Way!

NikiH · Post by **NikiH** » Wed May 11, 2005 9:18 pm

If we get T.O I'm quitting. I will only cheer when his pompas ass is not on the field. And I will make it clear that as a fan I do not want him here. That being said I don't think we want to spend the kind of money T.O is looking for. And even if we had that much space left I don't think Joe Gibbs would sign a deal with a guy he knows will be coming back again next year with his hand out. If you aren't staying for 4 years or whatever it was, don't sign the damned piece of paper.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Wed May 11, 2005 9:29 pm

Cancer anybody?

It is expensive.

It is destructive.

It is deadly.

Cancer anybody?

Hogfather · Post by **Hogfather** » Wed May 11, 2005 9:30 pm

Why!? Why!? Why do we even have to start a thread about this? It's just pointless!

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:27 am

You're all nuts. Enn Vee Tee Ess, nuts!

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:19 am

T.O. would definitely spark Ramsey's career... My 2 cents

I know probably cannot afford him, but...

Honestly, who would we rather have...

T.O.

or Rod Gardner?

With our defense and a revamped offense, it could definitely be us in the Super Bowl this year. PLus, Joe likes them veterans!!! :wink:

(Mind you: I am not a fan of T.O.'s antics, and, yes, I believe his contract renogotiation is selfish.)

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:43 am

I think T.O is worth more to us as an Eagle! This guy will hurt that "team" and is already causing problems.

Most of us here want a real NFL team not a "fantasy" team that only makes you feel good when you think about it!

Hopefully he's an Eagle this year, he's a cancer.

Gibbs' Hog · Post by **Gibbs' Hog** » Thu May 12, 2005 12:37 pm

SkinsJock wrote:I think T.O is worth more to us as an Eagle! This guy will hurt that "team" and is already causing problems.

Most of us here want a real NFL team not a "fantasy" team that only makes you feel good when you think about it!

Hopefully he's an Eagle this year, he's a cancer.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I hope he holds out the entire year, and drags the team down in the process. The only thing is that Lurie was saying it was a non-issue - which could mean that the Iggles management is doing something smart :-#

(I hate that I just said that) by not revolving the team's preparations around t.o.

skins81 · Post by **skins81** » Thu May 12, 2005 2:19 pm

SkinsJock wrote:I think T.O is worth more to us as an Eagle!

Think of it. If he holds out, they will report on it every week. If he plays, he will have his own personal podium to say whatever he wants after the game. And if he doesn't get the dam ball as another receiver once said...

And this is May. Nothing has really happened yet. It gets worse as TC and preseason approach.

I hope he stays an iggle as well.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:08 pm

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Honestly, who would we rather have...

T.O. or Rod Gardner?

Without the slightest hesitation and beyond any reasonable doubt:

Rod Gardner!

Gardner just drops 50% of the passes. TO sabotages the whole team and poissons the locker room. No brainer!

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:14 pm

The Spanish have a saying for this:
No

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:53 pm

Fios wrote:The Spanish have a saying for this:
No

En inglés, por favor. Not everyone here speaks Spanish. :wink:

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Fri May 13, 2005 3:37 am

TO may be completely sabotaging his career right now. the eagles will NOT renegotiate with him. if he holds out, he will be fired and looking for a new team. who would sign him, after this? or at least, who would sign him to a long term, big money deal? the best he'd be able to hope for would be a string of 1 year contracts. no one would give him the big multiyear contract with the big signing bonus because they'd know they'd probably end up eating most of it.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Fri May 13, 2005 7:33 am

Posted on Fri, May. 13, 2005

Agent unsure of Owens holdout

"It's only May... . Everyone should just relax a little bit," Drew Rosenhaus told ESPN last night.

By Bob Brookover

Inquirer Staff Writer

Drew Rosenhaus, the agent for the Eagles' Terrell Owens, broke his camp's silence on the issue of the wide receiver's contract yesterday.

In an interview on ESPN's SportsCenter that lasted just over five minutes, Rosenhaus said Owens still has not decided whether he will attend training camp at Lehigh University, which is scheduled to begin Aug. 1 for the team's veterans.

"That's going to be something Terrell and I talk about," Rosenhaus said. "I try telling people who are up in arms right now that Terrell hasn't missed a game yet. It's only May.

"Everyone should just chill out. This is when you talk about contracts and things. We'll decide at the appropriate time, but everyone should just relax a little bit."

Attempts to speak to Rosenhaus last night were unsuccessful.

Owens, who has six years remaining on the $49 million deal he signed after being traded from Baltimore to the Eagles before last season, skipped the team's mandatory three-day minicamp two weeks ago and subjected himself to a $24,000 fine and the potential for a large portion of his $9.6 million signing bonus to be recouped by the team.

Rosenhaus was not asked about the fines or whether Owens was going to be at the team's voluntary minicamp that is scheduled for seven dates next month.

He was asked to respond to owner Jeffrey Lurie's statement this week to The Inquirer that the Eagles will absolutely not rework Owens' contract.

"It's his football team and he's obviously entitled to make those decisions, and we'll just have to take it one day at a time. Hopefully, he'll change his mind," Rosenhaus said.

"I have a lot of respect for the Eagles' organization... they're good people. I'm confident we can work this out with a positive result for everybody."

Asked what he wants the Eagles to do for Owens, Rosenhaus was evasive. "That's a discussion I hope to have in the near future with the Eagles and let me just leave it at that," he said.

Rosenhaus said Owens continues to remain silent about his contract issue because he felt his words were being taken out of context when he was interviewed last month about the contract issue.

Though the Eagles' minicamp two weeks ago was mandatory, Rosenhaus said he does not consider Owens a holdout until training camp. He insisted he is not a big fan of holdouts.

"In my opinion, technically, I don't have any holdouts right now," Rosenhaus said. "You can't label me as a guy that is involved in holdouts because we've got many, many more players who aren't involved in contract disputes."

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/11633498.htm

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Fri May 13, 2005 9:28 am

die cowboys die wrote:if he holds out, he will be fired and looking for a new team. who would sign him, after this? or at least, who would sign him to a long term, big money deal?

Can not resist answering this question:

The Raiders might be tempted.

Can you imagine having three of the most selfish, egotistic and selfserving WR in football playing in Silver and Black?

No, me neither. They would kill one another before they left the locker room.
ROTFALMAO

js161 · Post by **js161** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:26 pm

say it isn't so

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:31 pm

uh...it isn't so?

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:50 pm

This could be "fun"! I hope that Lurie not only fines him for missing the "mandatory" camp but also some of the signing bonus! Obviously TO has some interesting "definitions" of some old fashioned words like "contract" and "mandatory"!

I hope that Reid and Lurie do not "cave in" on this guy. It will be interesting to see if they have the "integrity" they would like us to think they have. I would be impressed if they stick to their position but not surprised if they don't!

EA7649 · Post by **EA7649** » Sun May 22, 2005 6:42 pm

one word contract! he wants a new contract i want a more cap room!

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:03 pm

You're kidding right? T.O. a skin? That's like saying JGibbs betrays the Skins and coaches the Cowboys.